American Politics

[EihTooms]

2017-2018. After the Obama fiasco.

Links, please.

[PVMonger]

Basically no one cares about January 6. So a bunch of radical right winger protesters stormed the whitehouse full of politicians. Who cares. It lasted one afternoon and nothing after that. Radical left wing protesters looted and burned cities. They are still doing it to this day. I guarantee more people in California are concerned more with crime out of control daily and the safety of their families than they worry for politicians scared for one day. Get a life. Look at the real world. Why do you guys have so much hatred? Life is to short. Biden is ruining lives every day and O am not going to dwell on it. I am going to take advantage of it because he catering to the rich. Maybe you should have done more with your life in the past rather than dwell on Trump. Life is good. His actions have consequences. We have a terrible president but he will be a lame duck president by November. He is doing it to himself.

The only people who don't care about January 6th are the 74+ million fools who voted for the former guy. People like you, Elvis, Cali and a few others. Your comment of "politicians scared for one day" says it all. Everybody else with a brain, both here in the US and elsewhere in the world, is very concerned with what happened on January 6th.

The "real world" as you term it knows that the former guy and his merry band of idiots orchestrated a coup. Thankfully the coup failed. But I have no doubt that Republicans will try it again in 2024. If the former guy runs he could lose the popular vote by 50,000,000 and lose the EC by 538-0 and Republicans will swing into gear and crown him king. I know that that's what you and the rest of the cultists want.

Anybody who supports a coup is the real hater here.

[PVMonger]

No I said polls were wrong in 2016 With Hillary but polls by several polling stations are manipulated. Polls are a guideline not to be taken seriously but when whole stadiums are chanting Let's Go Brandon you pretty much know the numbers. Probably only 20 per cent of democrats will actually admit Biden is failing the country but 80 per cent of them are paying the price for voting for him. You included.

You and every other MAGA supporter claimed that the pre-election polls were wrong in 2020. Those polls claimed that Biden was ahead by 7% or so. You and every other MAGA supporter claimed that the polls were wrong and that the former guy would win.

The polls were wrong in the percentage but not in the fact that Biden won.

[EihTooms]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...?siteid=yhoof2

I know that the rightwingnuts on this board will try to spin this every which way but correctly, but the proof is in the results. Especially the overall ones as listed below. The average market performance, since Hoover are: Republicans -1.2%, Democrats +14.2%.

But the wingers, of course, will say something else.

Probably

https://www.slickcharts.com/sp500/returns

Biden's first year Stock Market return as measured by the industry standard S&P 500 Index was 28.7% (the report on total return including dividends will come later).

That surpasses Trump's first year return of 21.8%.

It surpasses even more Trump's average annual return of 16.8%.

Anybody think Trump's average annual returns were "unfairly" lowered because his disastrous economic decision to lay the groundwork for a deadly viral spread to emerge unmonitored, unprevented and improperly responded to in 2018, lie about its risks, mock the known mitigation measures and discourage any effort to invent or take a vaccine for it from the beginning and thereby create his worldwide economy and market destroying Trump's Pandemic most notably through his final year in office screwed up an otherwise magnificent Stock Market return record, the measure of "economic success" Trump revered most?

Well, you'd be wrong about that.

Trump's 3 year average annual return pre-2020 was even lower than his 4 year average at 16.3%.

[Canada]

The fact that you and many so-called conservatives don't care about January 6th is what is really concerning. When was finding out who organized and funded the January 6th assault on our free elections a petty partisan exercise to be disparaged by virtually every elected Congressional Republican?

https://news.yahoo.com/broderick-no-...100233104.html

Basically no one cares about January 6. So a bunch of radical right winger protesters stormed the whitehouse full of politicians. Who cares. It lasted one afternoon and nothing after that. Radical left wing protesters looted and burned cities. They are still doing it to this day. I guarantee more people in California are concerned more with crime out of control daily and the safety of their families than they worry for politicians scared for one day. Get a life. Look at the real world. Why do you guys have so much hatred? Life is to short. Biden is ruining lives every day and O am not going to dwell on it. I am going to take advantage of it because he catering to the rich. Maybe you should have done more with your life in the past rather than dwell on Trump. Life is good. His actions have consequences. We have a terrible president but he will be a lame duck president by November. He is doing it to himself.

[Canada]

Aren't you the same cultist who claimed 15 months ago that polls were lying and not to be believed.

Do you support polls only when they say what you want them to say? Oh, wait, you are a Republican. Of course you do.

No I said polls were wrong in 2016 With Hillary but polls by several polling stations are manipulated. Polls are a guideline not to be taken seriously but when whole stadiums are chanting Let's Go Brandon you pretty much know the numbers. Probably only 20 per cent of democrats will actually admit Biden is failing the country but 80 per cent of them are paying the price for voting for him. You included.

[Canada]

I forget. When did Trump's policies, legislation or economic stewardship create 6+ million USA jobs in 11 months, raise wages more than they have risen in decades, reduce child poverty in America by about 50%, increase real year over year GDP growth by 5% successfully establish and organize a free and easily available vaccination program that saved millions of American lives from Trump's Pandemic virus, pass historic bipartisan Infrastructure legislation, produce and preside over "the best holiday season ever", etc, etc, etc?

2017-2018. After the Obama fiasco.

[ScatManDoo]

The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.

Supporting the deadly riot on our capital makes you sound terribly anti-American, Canada.

[EihTooms]

Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.

The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.

I forget. When did Trump's policies, legislation or economic stewardship create 6+ million USA jobs in 11 months, raise wages more than they have risen in decades, reduce child poverty in America by about 50%, increase real year over year GDP growth by 5% successfully establish and organize a free and easily available vaccination program that saved millions of American lives from Trump's Pandemic virus, pass historic bipartisan Infrastructure legislation, produce and preside over "the best holiday season ever", etc, etc, etc?

[PVMonger]

Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.

The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.

Aren't you the same cultist who claimed 15 months ago that polls were lying and not to be believed.

Do you support polls only when they say what you want them to say? Oh, wait, you are a Republican. Of course you do.

[PVMonger]

Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.

The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.

The fact that you and many so-called conservatives don't care about January 6th is what is really concerning. When was finding out who organized and funded the January 6th assault on our free elections a petty partisan exercise to be disparaged by virtually every elected Congressional Republican?

https://news.yahoo.com/broderick-no-...100233104.html

[Canada]

"I think it's also important for the American people to understand how dangerous Donald Trump was. We know as he was sitting there in the dining room next to the Oval Office, members of his staff were pleading with him to go on television, to tell people to stop. We know Leader McCarthy was pleading with him to do that.

We know members of his family, we know his daughter. We have firsthand testimony that his daughter Ivanka went in at least twice to ask him to please stop this violence..

Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.

The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.

[Cali Guy]

"I think it's also important for the American people to understand how dangerous Donald Trump was. We know as he was sitting there in the dining room next to the Oval Office, members of his staff were pleading with him to go on television, to tell people to stop. We know Leader McCarthy was pleading with him to do that.

We know members of his family, we know his daughter. We have firsthand testimony that his daughter Ivanka went in at least twice to ask him to please stop this violence.

Any man who would not do so, any man who would provoke a violent assault on the Capitol to stop the counting of electoral votes, any man who would watch television as police officers were being beaten, as his supporters were invading the Capitol of the United States, is clearly unfit for future office, clearly can never be anywhere near the Oval Office ever again. " - Liz Cheney on today's broadcast of ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos.

It makes sense that you are still talking about the past because of the disaster Biden policies provided this year. But if you were really worried about USA you would be trying to focus on Biden mistakes not a one day riot. Antifa and Black Lives Matter are still doing the same to this day. It is amazing you care so much about January 6 when the country has so much real crime. More people are murdered every day and more people are assaulted every day in just one of your democratic cities Chicago. Murders and assaults and robbery are up in every major democratic city and no one here even mentions it. You don't care about January 6 personally but you are still fixated on Trump because of his success and you want somehow to try to stain it. January 6 was not acceptable in any means but it is over. History. Move on.

[Cali Guy]

Wingers are all the same. They complain and complain about all things socialist but when the going gets tough, they fold like a cheap suit.

You have complained time and time again about Social Security being socialist. I have your quotes so I know. But, like a good little winger, you howl at the moon about "socialism", yet line up at the trough for free stuff. Like a good little winger, you have shown everybody that you don't have any principles. Just like the former guy and the rest of the cultists.

I have never complained about social security in any one of my posts.

[ScatManDoo]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...rvene-n1286831

Yes, we can now add Ivanka to the long list of people related to and closely working with so-called potus Donald J. Trump who knew very well the America-hating, anti-America, cop-killing rioters invading and desecrating the USA Capitol in order to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and assassinate elected American representatives were Trump's people, Trumpsters, not "BLM" demonstrators, not "antifa", no "false-flag" activists, nobody other that his obedient cult followers incited to violent riot by him and ready to obey his every command.

And, same as the others, Ivanka knew for a fact her dad was too stupid, too incompetent and too unfit to serve to know what to do to stop the violent attack on the Constitution that he established and incited or that he was too hateful of America to bother.

Disgraceful.

TrumpShit was fully aware that the deplorables he sent to the capital were beating the police with confederate and Trump 2020 flags and breaking windows chanting death to Pence.

For over three hours scores of different people pleaded for him to call off his dogs.

And for more than three hours TrumpShit refused.

Disgraceful.