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  1. #5883
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    81.4 million gun owners vs the anti gun cucks.

    My money is on the gun owners!

    The 2 A provides for recourse when elections / democracy are being stolen!!

    https://www.google.com/search?q=american+gun+owners&source=hp&ei=FRfWYdm3 JO2 iptQP4 aaZ6 Ag&iflsig=ALs-wAMAAAAAYdYlJQfk3 i74 HAUEeFCZzcyDlgi1 ahHJ&ved=0 ahUKEwiZlvWN0 Jv1 AhVtkYkEHWFTBo0 Q4 dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=american+gun+owners&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3 Mtd2 l6 EAMyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARDRAzoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6 CAguELEDEIMBOgUILhCABDoOCC4 QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0 QM6 DgguEIAEELEDEMcBEKMCOgsILhCABBDHARCjAjoICAAQgAQQsQM6 CwguEIAEELEDEIMBOggILhCABBCxAzoOCC4 QgAQQsQMQxwEQrwE6 CwguEIAEEMcBEK8 BOgcIABCxAxAKOgoIABCxAxCxAxAKUABYpx9 g4 CBoAHAAeACAAcoEiAG0 K5 IBCzEuNS43 LjEuMi4 zmAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz.

    There are estimated to be over 400 million guns in the United States between police, the military, and American civilians. Over 393 Million (Over 98%) of those guns are in civilian hands, the equivalent of 120 firearms per 100 citizens. The average gun owning American has 5 firearms, while nearly 22% of gun owners only have a single firearm.
    Why, thank you for sticking to MY point.

    The ultra-right extremists are willing to plunge the nation into the civil war because they don't like the guy who fairly won the election?

    Like I said, what else is new?

    And nice touch counting the police and military as if they'll have anything to do with your lunatic brethren, LOL.

    And their guns are bigger than yours, too.

  2. #5882
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Oh please. The protestors killed no one. There was video of police letting protestors in. The only person killed was a protestor. A cop dies of a stroke and the lamestrain media says for months that the protestors did him in. The most famous guy there, the one with the weird buffalo hat, who sat on Nancy Pelosi's throne was actively talking with a cop in the room.

    The FBI did the Russiagate thing which is something you douches still believe is true. Putin fixed the election! What other reason could there be? Then there was Ukrainegate and now the Capitol thing, and all because Trump had the balls to call out the swamp.

    So we have fuckers like Fauci in office, highest paid government worker there is, shilling for vaccine / drug companies, and there is this never ending rotation of people from government into the private sector. That is why Loudon county in Virginia is the richest in America, the selling of political influence. The average voter is completely tuned out.

    And you make it out like some fringe faction thinks the election was stolen when 47% of Americans including 30% of Democrats think it was. I knew Georgia was going Dems in the senate race after I saw what happened there in the presidential election. It was a no-brainer.

    My take on the whole thing was fighting it was a waste of time. No judge even the gutless Supreme Court was going to take this on. They were bashed just for following the law in Florida for GW Bush. And now if you do not watch the videos of police actively assisting protestors, you are delusional. This was every bit as staged as Russiagate was.

    It does not matter. Your ilk is determined to not have Trump run for president. You all have done all you can to undermine the Democratic process and to prevent him from serving as president and did all you could so he would not serve again..
    You asked when have I voted for a Republican. Since my first vote in 1972, I have voted for non-Republicans exactly twice (that means 2 times). The first time (1) was in 1996 when I voted for Ross Perot. The second (2) time was in 2008 when I voted for Obama. I have only not voted once in 2016. So one might say that I am a card-carrying Republican.

    But one thing separates me from the current cult. I have a brain. I can see that the current Republican party is a cult. If a legislator doesn't knuckle under and kiss the former guy's butt, they get cancelled. If you don't believe in all of the cockamamie conspiracy theories, you are ostracized. The current Republican party are a bunch of fascists, racists, bullies, dummies and con men (and women). The current Republican party wants to go back to the 1860's when slavery was legal and women couldn't vote.

  3. #5881
    With a shady Chinese firm's money and almost definitely China's government oversight and control. Lolol.

    https://texassignal.com/the-chinese-...al-media-site/

    Yep, Donald "Make sure I win" Trump, the proven Xi butt licker, strikes again!

  4. #5880

    Touche

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    - Donald J. Trump, the worst so-called potus in history.

    Leave it to an America-hating Repub to declare free and fair elections in America to be a "crime".

    Trump should have insisted his DOJ look at whatever evidence there was for an alleged pro Biden "crime" in that election and take action to prosecute those responsible for it.

    Oh wait. He did. His DOJ found no evidence of it.

    Then Trump should have insisted attorneys take their evidence to dozens of courts in the land to bring the perpetrators to justice. Take it to Repub judges, even Trump-appointed Repub judges just to be sure.

    Oh wait. They did. They were laughed out of court.

    BTW, why did "Cancel Culture" Repub Trump cancel his own planned televised distraction from the official Annual January 6 America-hating Anti-America Trump Insurrection Cop-Killing Mob Attack Reminder Ceremony?
    https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/h...on-was-rigged/

    https://www.newsmax.com/headline/tru...06/id/1051282/

  5. #5879

    The 2nd coming

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Can you explain how the USA having an incompetent president and is weak in international foreign policy makes Europe smarter? Did they help elect our incompetent president to make the EU stronger? Or are you just babbling nonsense?
    https://www.newsmax.com/finance/stre...06/id/1051347/

  6. #5878
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Can you explain how the USA having an incompetent president and is weak in international foreign policy makes Europe smarter?
    Why did you hold back this question for two to three years?

  7. #5877
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    Like I previously said you obviously are not knowledgeable in the market. The clients that sold their stock when Trump was elected took their loss and market increased dramatically in 2017. My clients did not buy back in and they lost millions. Since you know nothing about investing I will try to explain to you that when someone's portfolio is up 68-80 per cent in 4 years of Trump presidencies their is no other side to it. Their net worth has gone up 68-80 percent. There has not been a crash in the last 20 years. Their have been corrections in the market for extraordinary reasons but to someone that has some knowledge they look at those corrections as opportunities. My clients make more money after a correction which is proven over the last 50 years. You stick to your government handout and I will stick to making my clients millions.
    So they defied your advice and sold out of the market when Trump took office and missed out on the gains in 2017 from the continuation of the historic upward Bull Market Run trajectory established and triggered by Obama and the Dems by their passage of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act passed in late February 2009 without a single Repub vote while Trump passed nothing until the last business day of that year 2017.

    Then the year Trump's one and only significant economic "stimulus" legislation took effect, 2018, Trump had the first of his two Bear Market Crashes and it did not occur to you to advise them to buy back into the market at or near the bottom of either of them?

    Sad. If you had advised them to do that they would have come out way ahead of just riding those two Trump Bear Market Crashes all the way down and back up again over the next four years. Well, the second one came back up again in historic fashion under Biden since a presidential term is only 4 years and not 5. But you know what I mean.

    Or did you not notice Trump's first Bear Market Crash in 2018 and his second one in 2020?

  8. #5876
    "Never forget the crime of the 2020 Presidential Election. Never give up!"
    - Donald J. Trump, the worst so-called potus in history.

    Leave it to an America-hating Repub to declare free and fair elections in America to be a "crime".

    Trump should have insisted his DOJ look at whatever evidence there was for an alleged pro Biden "crime" in that election and take action to prosecute those responsible for it.

    Oh wait. He did. His DOJ found no evidence of it.

    Then Trump should have insisted attorneys take their evidence to dozens of courts in the land to bring the perpetrators to justice. Take it to Repub judges, even Trump-appointed Repub judges just to be sure.

    Oh wait. They did. They were laughed out of court.

    BTW, why did "Cancel Culture" Repub Trump cancel his own planned televised distraction from the official Annual January 6 America-hating Anti-America Trump Insurrection Cop-Killing Mob Attack Reminder Ceremony?

  9. #5875

    He just wants to distract from the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    Amazing someone like you with absolutely no knowledge of the market and investing can contradict all the major financial institutions in the USA.
    https://www.newsmax.com/headline/tru...06/id/1051282/

  10. #5874

    Say 81 million households probably 200+ million if you count all household members

    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    So does that make around 250 million Americans that do not own guns?

    I think so, but not all are voters.

    Those gun owners need to behave themselves.

    Or their asses will get out voted.
    They will behave until "behaving" isn't appropriate anymore.

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/bid...06/id/1051303/

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/you...05/id/1051221/

    Outvoted? Yeah right like Nov 2020?

    The dnc has been trying to take their guns for over 50 yrs.

    Rhetorical question?

    Why do you think they "stockpile" so many guns.

    I call them a "rainy day arsenal".

    Nov 2024?

  11. #5873

    Can you explain

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    I said that Europe is smarter than Republicans and I was correct.
    Can you explain how the USA having an incompetent president and is weak in international foreign policy makes Europe smarter? Did they help elect our incompetent president to make the EU stronger? Or are you just babbling nonsense?

  12. #5872
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    Like I previously said you obviously are not knowledgeable in the market. The clients that sold their stock when Trump was elected took their loss and market increased dramatically in 2017. My clients did not buy back in and they lost millions. Since you know nothing about investing I will try to explain to you that when someone's portfolio is up 68-80 per cent in 4 years of Trump presidencies their is no other side to it. Their net worth has gone up 68-80 percent. There has not been a crash in the last 20 years. Their have been corrections in the market for extraordinary reasons but to someone that has some knowledge they look at those corrections as opportunities. My clients make more money after a correction which is proven over the last 50 years. You stick to your government handout and I will stick to making my clients millions.
    Sure, I can believe Trump's 4 year term only delivered a stock market gain of 68-80% You know why? Because Obama's 8 year term delivered a stock market gain of 235%. Which, last time I checked and without any financial advice at all, is quite a bit more than double 68-80%.

    I was actually trying to give you wannabe "DOW" financial advisors a fighting chance by breaking it down to average annual gains, where Trump is not far behind Obama on that count.

    But have it your way.

  13. #5871
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Why didn't you just go to the financial page and click on the Dow and then click on 5 year total and get the real number rather than go to a site that determines it their own way? If you go to the Dow you will have the real number.
    5 year total? Do all you wannabe financial advisors think a presidential terms is 5 years?

  14. #5870
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    The Dow publishes their numbers. Go to the Dow sight. Not rocket science. You can find anything on the internet to contradict everything. Slick charts? Are you kidding? Why do you keep trying to deceive everyone? Why don't you publish the Dow numbers from Dow?
    Why don't you post the link for that here. When I do, the URL is huge.

    There is no need to do that, the net is full of reliable sources that post the same annual DOW returns.

    Do you think Microtrends is lying about it too? Their numbers are exactly the same as Slick Charts and dozens of other sources, all of which are easy links to see the annual numbers we are talking about here.

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    Happy with that URL?

  15. #5869
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Nope. It didn't change under Obama.

    Kiplinger just ran their Wall Street professional and financial industry standard S&P 500 Index measured ranking for the USA Stock Market performance per USA president right up to and including Biden's first year and, as expected, the average annual returns for Biden, Obama and Clinton each surpassed that of Trump, George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush and, what the hell, let's throw Reagan in there too.

    With Biden being best.

    https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/...e-stock-market
    You know, I have to comment that Kiplinger being part of financial media, it is not immune from the usual pretzel twisting all Mainstream Media puts itself through to make Repubs look like "winners" in the face of their typical economic and stock market disastrous failures as well as trying to make Dems look like "losers" in the face of their typical economic and stock market great successes.

    Case in point is how they spin Trump's stock market performance. The black highlights are mine.

    Donald Trump's presidency was far from calm, and you could say the same for the stock market during his tenure. Equities just barely managed to avoid bear-market territory in Q4 2018, then ended up rallying for more than a year before suffering a dramatic (albeit quick) bear market in 2020.

    Even then, Trump still managed to finish his single term as one of the top presidents by market performance, which was fueled in part by his Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. However, that performance also included a wild rally after Election Day 2020.

    "The S&P 500 gained 11.8% in price from Election Day on November 3, 2020 through January 15, 2021 in what is now on track to become the best Election-to-Inauguration Day return for a first-term president since WWII," writes Sam Stovall, Chief Investment Strategist for CFRA, referring to Biden's pre-inauguration bump. "John F. Kennedy came in second with an 8.8% price rise, while Eisenhower was third with 6.3%. Conversely, Presidents Obama, Bush-43, and Nixon endured declines of 19.9%, 6.2%, and 1.4%, respectively."
    First of all, the broad USA Stock market did not "manage to avoid bear-market territory in Q4 2018. " I have been pointing out that the broad USA Stock market experienced 2 Bear Market Crashes defined as a decline of 20% or more from a recent high during Trump's 4 year presidency and I am right. Sorry, Kiplinger, but the broadest USA Stock market Index of all, The Wilshire 5000 Total Market Index, so named because it represents the "total" USA Stock market and not just the 30 stocks in the DOW or the 500 stocks in the S&P 500 Index, closed at 30,462. 49 on September 20,2018 and then closed at 24,151. 43 on December 24,2018. That is a decline from the recent high of 20.73%, also known as a Bear Market Crash.

    And that first of his two Bear Market Crash declines began just 9 months after his god-awful waste of $2.5+ Trillion added to the deficit Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed and passed, something Kiplinger seems to think contributed to his ok stock market results. Oh please.

    I would put the URL for the Yahoo! Finance Wilshire 5000 Total Market Index link right here for you to click on "Historical Data, Historical Prices" and put in those dates or a few days before and after them to see for yourselves. But there is some weird glitch going on with this site and when I do that the URL is huge. Like half a page. LOL. So just do a Google Search for that and it is easy to find.

    And, second, check out how they try to make it appear as though "the best Election-to-Inauguration Day return for a first-term president since WWII" was some feather to put in Trump's cap! LOL. They are referring to the great rally after Biden won the 2020 election!

    Now, I am not a believer in attributing anything that happens in the economy or the stock market to an incoming president starting on election day or inauguration day. Primarily because both of those metrics have never significantly changed the trajectory they were already on for months or years prior to those dates. What happens immediately after election day with a new incoming president has practically nothing to do with the person who won and who has not done anything yet.

    OK, so a big decision is about to be made on an election day. Therefore, as usual anytime a big decision is about to be made or an important bit of news is about to be reported like the Jobs Numbers, a Fed Decision, an Election and so on, stock market investors hang back for often significant amounts of time prior to the decision being made or news reported and then once the decision is made they celebrate that the world did not come to an end after all and they simply resume either the buying or selling they were doing prior to the election period but with slightly more enthusiasm, trying to catch up. That is all that happens.

    Those two trajectories didn't change notably starting on election day when FDR won, when Reagan won or when Obama won. They sure as hell weren't going to change significantly when Trump won in 2016 and were not likely to go nuts just because Biden won in 2020. Mainstream Media would have been working very hard to prevent that latter event from happening anyway. In the midst of Trump's Pandemic, Biden had to actually start doing something and passing some very important and effective economic stimulus for that to happen. He did and it happened.

    And so I am sticking to that opinion and judgement even though it obviously helps Trump's overall record on the stock market to have benefitted from that historic stock market rally that started right after he was soundly defeated in a Trump-defined landslide election win for Joe Biden. Besides, all three of the most recent Dem presidents beat Trump's average annual stock market performance anyway.

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