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  1. #11103

    Dania Suarez

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I know that is what was reported in the media, but that is not what happened.

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2013/0...ne-year-later/

    "Suarez claims, she stopped to buy condoms and told Huntington that if they were going to spend the night together, he'the have to give her "a gift" afterward. She says that when she named her price $800 Huntington didn't flinch. They continued on to the hotel.

    Suarez would later claim that, had she been so inclined, she could have rifled through his belongings and obtained information of presumably vital national security. She speculatednot unreasonablythat this could have provided fodder for blackmail or that it might have been of interest to terrorists or organized criminals wanting to penetrate President Obama's security.

    At 6:30 the next morningThursday, April 12 the front-desk clerk called Huntington's room and said it was time for his guest to leave. Suarez asked for her payment. "I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money,' " she later told the New York Times.

    What happened next is a matter of dispute. Huntington's version, according to sources familiar with his claims, is that he never knew Suarez was a prostitute and he told her to leave when she asked for money. Suarezwho later wrote a book about her night with the agentclaimed there was no misunderstanding and that she had clearly set her price before she went to the hotel.

    Suarez banged on the door of Bongino's room, across the hall, where her friendwho didn't ask to be paidhad spent the night. Suarez demanded that Bongino come up with the money to pay her. Suarez said that she threatened to call the police and that Bongino pleaded with her not to. He eventually went from room to room, asking his Secret Service brothers for "scoots," the term they use for local currency, or any US dollars they could spare. Bongino came up with $250 in mixed currency and gave it to Suarez.

    During the commotion, a Colombian police officer, apparently stationed on the hotel floor, inquired about the argument and told Bongino he should pay Suarez. There are conflicting accounts about whether the police officer was advocating for Suarez or merely suggesting to Bongino that he give her the money to keep her quiet. But once she had the moneyabout a third of what she claimed she was owedSuarez left the hotel with her friend and got into a cab. They never reported the incident.

    The manager of the Hotel Caribe, according to firsthand accounts, was incensed by a list of complaints about his boorish American guests. These didn't have to do with prostitutionwhich the hotel is accustomed to managingbut with loud partying at the swimming pool, broken glasses, and reports of dog feces littering public areas of the hotel and dog hair in beds.

    My take on this is you had a ho who saw that she was not supposed to be in this guy Huntington's room and thought she could shake him down. The notion the police were on her side is not likely IMO. The police certainly were not going to support her getting $800 for a night. That is like 2 months salary in Colombia. The fact that Bongino's gal did not ask to get paid is a strong indicator that this guy Hunington's comment about giving her gift were true and also he knew how to use the lingo that he was giving her a gift and not paying her wage. Outside of letting her in his room, he really did nothing wrong.

    You never say never but understand I was dealing with students, a woman who sold merchandise, an engineer, government worker. I thought that because prostitution was legal in Colombia that the stigma of being a ho was not as bad as here in the USA. I was wrong; it is worse. So any woman who says my price is not met would be stigmatized as being a ho. It really never came up in Colombia.

    I was also at a Marriott hotel where I have elite type status. I had been in the hotel multiple times before with other women and had no incidents. I made sure to tip the front office people and the bellhop and called them by name so if there was an issue, it would be the nice gentleman who is a good customer with elite status versus a 2 bit ho. Most of the better hotels check the women in, check their cedula, and then make sure and call after to make sure there were no incidents.

    Don't think just because you are in a foreign country everyone is going to take the ho's side. That is just not true.
    How these SS agents could get mixed up with such an ugly dog face is beyond me. They deserve to get jammed up for the sole reason of letting this pig into their room.

  2. #11102

    I was just curious about her scam

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    LOL. How did you get that far? I always get random whatsapp messages with pictures of Chinese chicks. They try to act like they are looking for someone else. I try to pry and pry, but I have never had one to finally come out and ask me to send money.
    I just wanted to learn more about her scam, I never met her in person.

  3. #11101

    SA gals have been good so far

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Dangerous, asking them to come over. You can get alot of fatties with thin photos, smellies, and others you would disqualify if you first met them.
    Given that I tend to have limited time on my vacations I just don't have time for meet and greets.

    All I can say is that out of about 30 gals I have met on SA in Guadalajara, Cabo and Bogota only of them of them didn't appeal to me. So we had coffee, chatted, then she left with a small tip.

  4. #11100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    You never say never but understand I was dealing with students, a woman who sold merchandise, an engineer, government worker. I thought that because prostitution was legal in Colombia that the stigma of being a ho was not as bad as here in the USA. I was wrong; it is worse. So any woman who says my price is not met would be stigmatized as being a ho. It really never came up in Colombia.
    Frankly speaking, this is a new territory for me. I find it easier for me if things are transparent and transactional. That way, I can establish boundaries and establish certain levels of expectation, and I would know if things would work or not early on.

    The Colombian girl who flew into Bogota and spent time with me there in my last trip, even though I have treated her as a friend and her feeling towards me is mutual, I established the compensation of her time upfront before I agree to have her get onto the plane to see me. She has to take time off from work after all. Of course, I also mentioned that I would cover her travel expenses. I would say that she trusted me since she would pay for the plane tickets and all these transportations up front, and never mention even once about the payment after we met. It's funny how at one time, she would even offer to pay for the Mileroticos girl that we had ordered together. In a way, I made her feel like I am paying for her professional services like a consultant jejeje.

    Having said that, I am still trying to learn more about navigating around scenarios where things may not be as transparent. Perhaps I can use the direct approach that Pussycat has used about making clear the amount that I would pay upfront. However, for scenario where I simply want a date to dine in a restaurant or go clubbing, with no mention of any gift or transaction and maybe ended up having sex after that. The next morning could make for an awkward situation. If the girls turned out to be civilians with a regular job, will they be offended if I hand them the money? If so, how would I know if the amount given is insufficient in her view that it offends her? What if she demanded a certain amount in which I deem unreasonable? I am visualizing all the potential drama and the headache. The truth is that I am actually a noobie on this front.

  5. #11099
    Quote Originally Posted by GoldMembr  [View Original Post]
    Hi Elvis, thanks for your thoughtful insight, it make a lot of sense. I've possibly a dumb question. If you don't talk price beforehand in Colombia then what's to keep the girl from going after, "Oh, you owe me 2 million pesos, if you don't pay I'm going to the police. " This exact thing happened ten years ago in Cartagena and some guys got in lots of trouble.
    I know that is what was reported in the media, but that is not what happened.

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2013/0...ne-year-later/

    "Suarez claims, she stopped to buy condoms and told Huntington that if they were going to spend the night together, he'the have to give her "a gift" afterward. She says that when she named her price $800 Huntington didn't flinch. They continued on to the hotel.

    Suarez would later claim that, had she been so inclined, she could have rifled through his belongings and obtained information of presumably vital national security. She speculatednot unreasonablythat this could have provided fodder for blackmail or that it might have been of interest to terrorists or organized criminals wanting to penetrate President Obama's security.

    At 6:30 the next morningThursday, April 12 the front-desk clerk called Huntington's room and said it was time for his guest to leave. Suarez asked for her payment. "I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money,' " she later told the New York Times.

    What happened next is a matter of dispute. Huntington's version, according to sources familiar with his claims, is that he never knew Suarez was a prostitute and he told her to leave when she asked for money. Suarezwho later wrote a book about her night with the agentclaimed there was no misunderstanding and that she had clearly set her price before she went to the hotel.

    Suarez banged on the door of Bongino's room, across the hall, where her friendwho didn't ask to be paidhad spent the night. Suarez demanded that Bongino come up with the money to pay her. Suarez said that she threatened to call the police and that Bongino pleaded with her not to. He eventually went from room to room, asking his Secret Service brothers for "scoots," the term they use for local currency, or any US dollars they could spare. Bongino came up with $250 in mixed currency and gave it to Suarez.

    During the commotion, a Colombian police officer, apparently stationed on the hotel floor, inquired about the argument and told Bongino he should pay Suarez. There are conflicting accounts about whether the police officer was advocating for Suarez or merely suggesting to Bongino that he give her the money to keep her quiet. But once she had the moneyabout a third of what she claimed she was owedSuarez left the hotel with her friend and got into a cab. They never reported the incident.

    The manager of the Hotel Caribe, according to firsthand accounts, was incensed by a list of complaints about his boorish American guests. These didn't have to do with prostitutionwhich the hotel is accustomed to managingbut with loud partying at the swimming pool, broken glasses, and reports of dog feces littering public areas of the hotel and dog hair in beds.

    My take on this is you had a ho who saw that she was not supposed to be in this guy Huntington's room and thought she could shake him down. The notion the police were on her side is not likely IMO. The police certainly were not going to support her getting $800 for a night. That is like 2 months salary in Colombia. The fact that Bongino's gal did not ask to get paid is a strong indicator that this guy Hunington's comment about giving her gift were true and also he knew how to use the lingo that he was giving her a gift and not paying her wage. Outside of letting her in his room, he really did nothing wrong.

    You never say never but understand I was dealing with students, a woman who sold merchandise, an engineer, government worker. I thought that because prostitution was legal in Colombia that the stigma of being a ho was not as bad as here in the USA. I was wrong; it is worse. So any woman who says my price is not met would be stigmatized as being a ho. It really never came up in Colombia.

    I was also at a Marriott hotel where I have elite type status. I had been in the hotel multiple times before with other women and had no incidents. I made sure to tip the front office people and the bellhop and called them by name so if there was an issue, it would be the nice gentleman who is a good customer with elite status versus a 2 bit ho. Most of the better hotels check the women in, check their cedula, and then make sure and call after to make sure there were no incidents.

    Don't think just because you are in a foreign country everyone is going to take the ho's side. That is just not true.

  6. #11098
    These catfish types are all over every dating site I know. I now ignore any Asian ads that mention crypto. Another oddity is the amount of Chinese women with Spanish text in their profile. Small sample size so far, but those also appear to be scammers.

    Unless it is close to where I physically reside at the time, I will not travel more than 30 minutes to meet anyone I have not seen on a real time video call. Just too much BS out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    Catfishing in my understanding means someone uses a fake profile for the purpose of scamming.

    I have never experienced this in Bogota, every girl I met seemed legit and in most cases looked at least as good as the photos.

    I did find an apparent catfish in Mexico however. I started chatting with a hot Chinese gal in Guadalara . First of all, wtf is a hot Chinese gal doing on SA in GDL. Then guess what, she suddently started talking about investing in crypto currency. She wanted me to wire $500k to her fathers crypto outfit in Singapore so she can "Invest" it. It was a once in a lifetime, ground floor opportunity...lucky me?

    Basic rule: if something seems to good to be true, or seems "Fishy" (LOL), it probably is.

  7. #11097
    Quote Originally Posted by BigButtDetecto  [View Original Post]
    Why pay for a ambiguous dating website when you can have a straight service from milleroticos or mundosexoannuncios for free?
    Because some people are looking for personable company and not just the straight-up fucking.

  8. #11096

    Sa

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Igor I do not recall anyone on this forum using seeking before I did in mid 2019. I would send a woman a message. We would go on WhatsApp and arrange a meeting. Early on, I cannot remember mentioning price with anyone. We would meet and some of the time just go right to bed. Other times, the women would meet and want a price. Sometimes I would tell them no. If the price was reasonable, and I was attracted to them then I would fuck them but in my mind they were a WG. The best sex seemed to always be with the women who never mentioned a price though.

    I have been doing the sugar daddy thing for over 10 years now. The goal is to make women take some form of payment for sex but not feel they are hos. You want them to feel as if you are giving a gift versus paying a wage.

    As far as how to tell they are hos, they have been on the website for a long time, ask for money up front, ask that you get them an uber or taxi, show their cedula without being asked when at the hotel, bring their own condoms, live in the worst parts of town, and you can say they go about having sex in a ritual or job like way with a limited amount of passion and run for the door when done.

    On average, the working women perform better than seeking women but the top women from seeking beat the top working women because of the passion they bring. And the top seeking women have unsurpassed beauty. I have met three beauty queens off the site, two from Colombia and one from Venezuela.

    And if you want a gal like I have, you have to let go of these bullshit preconceived notions like the women want the young Colombian studs. Some do, but there are others on seeking who do not. Hell, they will say they want guys age 30 to 60 in their profile. I am late 50's, overweight, and have a young 30 something woman my friends have called a 10. She has modeled for decades and insists on being fucked 3 X a day, and when I lasted visited her, ran to me in the airport with a balloon and cake in hand. And she is the third Colombian GF I have met from the site and my 4th from South America. I have never met and found a GF or what I consider a sugar baby off of seeking that mentioned a price before we met.

    I am only seeing my current gal now, but I have had sugar babies from the USA, Mexico and Colombia. In fact over the holidays four of them reached out to me and asked how things were going with me and my woman, and I know why. They wanted me taking them out again. When I said things were fine, they lied and said they were happy for me. I know they had a ball when we were together and miss the life I showed them.

    That said, it is not easy. You will get stood up. You will have your time wasted, let down a rabbit hole. You may get hurt and financially taken advantage of when a ho pretends to be a sugar baby but all she cares about is money. They will fool you with their addictions and mental illness. Many of the hottest women have boyfriends and will lie about being single. My current gal hid that she had a daughter from me. This all women are hos crap is to prevent guys from being hurt but it is completely illogical. There are women out there, a distinct minority for sure, who can be trusted, and those are the ones I want to invest my time and money on. You just have to kiss a lot of frogs before you meet your princess.
    Why pay for a ambiguous dating website when you can have a straight service from milleroticos or mundosexoannuncios for free?

  9. #11095
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    I did find an apparent catfish in Mexico however. I started chatting with a hot Chinese gal in Guadalara . First of all, wtf is a hot Chinese gal doing on SA in GDL. Then guess what, she suddently started talking about investing in crypto currency. She wanted me to wire $500k to her fathers crypto outfit in Singapore so she can "Invest" it. It was a once in a lifetime, ground floor opportunity...lucky me?
    LOL. How did you get that far? I always get random whatsapp messages with pictures of Chinese chicks. They try to act like they are looking for someone else. I try to pry and pry, but I have never had one to finally come out and ask me to send money.

  10. #11094

    Catfishing on SA

    Catfishing in my understanding means someone uses a fake profile for the purpose of scamming.

    I have never experienced this in Bogota, every girl I met seemed legit and in most cases looked at least as good as the photos.

    I did find an apparent catfish in Mexico however. I started chatting with a hot Chinese gal in Guadalara . First of all, wtf is a hot Chinese gal doing on SA in GDL. Then guess what, she suddently started talking about investing in crypto currency. She wanted me to wire $500k to her fathers crypto outfit in Singapore so she can "Invest" it. It was a once in a lifetime, ground floor opportunity...lucky me?

    Basic rule: if something seems to good to be true, or seems "Fishy" (LOL), it probably is.

  11. #11093
    Hi Elvis, thanks for your thoughtful insight, it make a lot of sense. I've possibly a dumb question. If you don't talk price beforehand in Colombia then what's to keep the girl from going after, "Oh, you owe me 2 million pesos, if you don't pay I'm going to the police. " This exact thing happened ten years ago in Cartagena and some guys got in lots of trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Early on, I cannot remember mentioning price with anyone. We would meet and some of the time just go right to bed. Other times, the women would meet and want a price. Sometimes I would tell them no. If the price was reasonable, and I was attracted to them then I would fuck them but in my mind they were a WG. The best sex seemed to always be with the women who never mentioned a price though.

  12. #11092

    Good article on the strata system for living / utilities in different parts of city.


  13. #11091

    Lol

    Has never happened in over 5 yrs, but knock on wood.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Dangerous, asking them to come over. You can get alot of fatties with thin photos, smellies, and others you would disqualify if you first met them.

  14. #11090
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    This is how I use SA in Bog:

    I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much. You could try free membership first and see how it goes. I don't know what the differences are.

    I set up my own profile with a few pics. I put a very brief intro in Spanish. I say my income etc are modest; if you claim to be a high roller you will just attract expensive girls. Not necesarily better, just more expensive.

    You can put the letters "SD' if you want. It stands for "Sugar daddy", and its code for p4 p. Even in Spanish, they know what it means. The girls sometimes put "SB" (sugar baby) or just "Sugar" in their profile also. Sugar is just a euphemism for money.

    You can lie about your age (e. G. Make it younger) as there is no age verification. You should do this when you set up your profile as you can't do it after..
    Thank you for the info. Does anyone know other platforms / workflow?

  15. #11089

    Pay for it and go invisible.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I started a new Seeking account and have been focusing here in the States. In less than a week, I already had my first meet and greet set up! Wrote about it in the Seeking Arrangements thread. I can only imagine what it would be like in Colombia or Brazil or some place like that. Lots of scammers and stuff, but plenty of "legit" too. I have women from all over Latin America and the rest of the world contacting me. I hide anybody not in my area. Can't deal with all of that!
    Why would anyone want every ho in Latin America be able to contact / bother him A SD flies above the crowd and take what he wants. LOL I spend way too many hours a day talking with hot, available girls, no time for the barrio chicks. Unless I am in Bogota. LOL YMMV but at lease change the size of the net your using.

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