Stupid shit in Medellin

[SawZonaNorte]

The problem with being a bunker douche like you is that you do not get to see that most of the rules are being followed: the lockdowns, the social distancing, the mask wearing, even the vaccines, and it has not done jack shit. Case numbers are higher now than they ever have been.

ROFL.

Is 'Elvis' still habitually this stupid?

He should take a math class sometime.

Case numbers are supposed to be "higher than they've ever been" at this point. Does this clown not understand the word "exponential" ?

Nobody ever said or expected those steps to "end the pandemic".

Mental midgets like Elvis can't even comprehend the fact that the only numbers one can appropriately compare to today's Covid numbers are those which would be in place had there been no preventive steps taken.

The most vivid element of the entire pandemic hasn't even approached yet. As that will occur when it tears through Africa at a pace even Elvis's shallow mind has yet to even consider.

The entire pandemic, to date, has been distributed as a function of wealth, freedom, and desirability as a place to visit.

Most of Africa has zero of those so they've known just a glancing blow so far, with the exception of South Africa, which has more of all three factors.

People in Africa don't just leap into their Land Rovers and drive across the continent to Sturgis or the African equivalent of same to spread their Covid cheer.

It seems Elvis should head back to Burger King. Ideally one in Kinshasa, waiting for the real Covid pandemic to strike him.

Hope they serve Elvis's favorite Kool Aid at the BK in Kinshasa. Though obviously he won't likely be thirsty for a good, long while.

[Paulie97]

You're right the actual number (according to Worldometer is 864,000 today 1/12/2022) Does that mean there weren't a few that were mis characterized as CoVid deaths? Clearly with a number that great there have been a few that were mischaracterized. And deaths that weren't characterized as CoVid? I'm sure there have been a few of those too, that should have been.

But you think this number is greatly exaggerated in order to scare people? Why, oh I know. The Elvis analytical diarrhea strikes again. Less than 1% of the US population has died from CoVid and you don't know any of them so it must be fiction. That isn't exactly reasoning on a high level. I don't know a single person who died in the armed services of the US in any of our wars or conflicts. Does that mean it hasn't happened? Arlington National Cemetery would beg to differ.

BTW what is your expertise? Do you have a degree in Epidemiology? Virology? Immunology? No? Your degree is in libertarian blogs and podcasts by fellow conspiracy theorists. You have offered sage predictions that have been proven to be laughable. "No more tan 80,000 deaths. Not going to happen" but wait? We're at 864,000 and counting. You simply don't have any knowledge or idea about this virus and all your advice, predictions and analysis are just simply Elvis analytical diarrhea..

An outstanding Elvira beatdown.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj7WjLtquVM&t=44s

[MarquisdeSade1]

LOL. I will be there next week. My passport's pages are all filled up and no one is doing Express. I was going to have wait 8 weeks for a new one or scratch and claw and get an appointment at a passport agency. I got one in El Paso on Thursday thank God!

It is a four hour drive from Cancun, but I hope my gal and I have the time to see the lake of seven colors, lake Bacalar: https://www.google.com/search?q=lake+bacalar&rls=ig&sxsrf=AOaemvIN5 XlPdJK3 MKaOcH3 a__i5 J58 KWw:1641963902047&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwjgwvWYuKv1 AhXSmmoFHVMWCtAQ_AUoAnoECAIQBA&biw=1280&bih=577&dpr=1. 5.

Hope the seaweed is not that bad where you are!

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/12/m...x-old-age.html

[Villainy]

After creating this damned virus to begin with, the government has been scaring the shit out of everyone about it. Hell, JJBee just said that Covid had a 20% admission rate. Bill Maher said that 60% of Democrats said the admission rate was 30+% or above. The actual rate of admission is 1%, and it is lower with omicron. Yeah, I have heard others talk of people dying with Covid. Know how many I have seen it myself? Zero. And I have seen dozens come in gasping for air with low oxygen levels. I am not saying there are no Covid deaths, but it is very very rare, and it sure as hell is not 900,000.

You're right the actual number (according to Worldometer is 864,000 today 1/12/2022) Does that mean there weren't a few that were mis characterized as CoVid deaths? Clearly with a number that great there have been a few that were mischaracterized. And deaths that weren't characterized as CoVid? I'm sure there have been a few of those too, that should have been.

But you think this number is greatly exaggerated in order to scare people? Why, oh I know. The Elvis analytical diarrhea strikes again. Less than 1% of the US population has died from CoVid and you don't know any of them so it must be fiction. That isn't exactly reasoning on a high level. I don't know a single person who died in the armed services of the US in any of our wars or conflicts. Does that mean it hasn't happened? Arlington National Cemetery would beg to differ.

So here we go again. We have an arm chair douche like you telling us how it is while the government scares the shit out of people like you. You see douche, I may complain about mask wearing, social distancing ETC but I do it. The story about mask wearing and the supermarket, which you have taken to think I am antimask, was about government insanity. The government mandated the wearing of masks, said not to go to Mexico, but there were plenty of masks in Mexico but none in the USA where the mask mandates were.

The problem with being a bunker douche like you is that you do not get to see that most of the rules are being followed: the lockdowns, the social distancing, the mask wearing, even the vaccines, and it has not done jack shit. Case numbers are higher now than they ever have been. Even the fucking vaccine now does not work. You just watch MSNBC and CNN who have been blaming the pandemic on Republicans since day one. That makes money for them but it is not helpful for us in the real world.

BTW what is your expertise? Do you have a degree in Epidemiology? Virology? Immunology? No? Your degree is in libertarian blogs and podcasts by fellow conspiracy theorists. You have offered sage predictions that have been proven to be laughable. "No more tan 80,000 deaths. Not going to happen" but wait? We're at 864,000 and counting. You simply don't have any knowledge or idea about this virus and all your advice, predictions and analysis are just simply Elvis analytical diarrhea.

But the pandemic is over. The virus has mutated to a more contagious and less potent form. It has done like all the viruses before it have done. Governments did not defeat the virus. The virus changed its form so it could live longer and not kill its hosts.

Why is it that the virus mutated? Was it because the other earlier and more lethal variants were defeated by widespread worldwide vaccinations? Don't you think that might have played a role? Oh, of course that can't have played a role because it crosses your conspiracy theory that all the government actions and vaccines didn't do anything to curb the lethal spread of the deadly initial variants. Of course you would know all about this, afterall Joe Rogan told you so. Right? Or was it some other super-knowledgeable scientist like Tucker Carlson?

So now it is time for me to laugh. How much longer you going to be holed up?

We all like a good laugh. I get a good laugh at every post you make pretending to be knowledgeable when you are, simply, alergic to analytical rigor and statistics. I laugh when you quote blogs without sources or libertarian podcasters. Instead you could google other sources like The Mayo Clinic or Johns Hopkins or The Cleveland Clinic or any of a dozen other reputable sources. They don't always agree about everything but they sure as hell have peope with real expertise expressing opinions and not the political hacks you love to listen to.

[Nounce]

I couldn't disagree with you more on freedom being a "collective right". Fuck that....

You can disagree all you wan but I don't know what you are disagreeing with. It's what I think and what I will do. I did not say you or others have to think the same way and I am not imposing my idea on you like you are trying to do on me when talking about freedom.

[Elvis 2008]

I've met JBee62 on at least three occasions. I call him an overall good guy with high mental aptitude and a gift for analogies. That said I've often disagreed with him, especially on mongering issues though his Covid analysis has been very useful and well sourced.

I know you have been in Medellin the last 5 years. I was asking about the last two, and you have pulled a Democratic douche move and did not answer the question. So you have been sitting in your bunker watching MSNBC the whole time acting like you are a damned expert. That is fine, but the rest of us, the ones who actually have to work and travel in this world do not appreciate those of you playing up the virus for political purposes.

After creating this damned virus to begin with, the government has been scaring the shit out of everyone about it. Hell, JJBee just said that Covid had a 20% admission rate. Bill Maher said that 60% of Democrats said the admission rate was 30+% or above. The actual rate of admission is 1%, and it is lower with omicron. Yeah, I have heard others talk of people dying with Covid. Know how many I have seen it myself? Zero. And I have seen dozens come in gasping for air with low oxygen levels. I am not saying there are no Covid deaths, but it is very very rare, and it sure as hell is not 900,000.

So here we go again. We have an arm chair douche like you telling us how it is while the government scares the shit out of people like you. You see douche, I may complain about mask wearing, social distancing ETC but I do it. The story about mask wearing and the supermarket, which you have taken to think I am antimask, was about government insanity. The government mandated the wearing of masks, said not to go to Mexico, but there were plenty of masks in Mexico but none in the USA where the mask mandates were.

The problem with being a bunker douche like you is that you do not get to see that most of the rules are being followed: the lockdowns, the social distancing, the mask wearing, even the vaccines, and it has not done jack shit. Case numbers are higher now than they ever have been. Even the fucking vaccine now does not work. You just watch MSNBC and CNN who have been blaming the pandemic on Republicans since day one. That makes money for them but it is not helpful for us in the real world.

But the pandemic is over. The virus has mutated to a more contagious and less potent form. It has done like all the viruses before it have done. Governments did not defeat the virus. The virus changed its form so it could live longer and not kill its hosts.

So now it is time for me to laugh. How much longer you going to be holed up? He he. I think after the 2022 midterms and the Dems lose their ass, you might peak out and see the sun. For you, the pandemic will be over when MSNBC is not shouting fear porn day and night.

And now Biden is polling negatively on the virus, but it is not even that. The passion of those fighting the vaccine mandate is a 100 X more that of those for it. My prediction is Biden will declare victory on the virus after the midterms and douches like you will emerge from your bunkers. As for Colombia, don't worry, we will keep a light on for you.

[Paulie97]

Another excellent example of not knowing what you're talking about.

Paulie and I had a big public, knock down fight right here over 3 years ago. It might have been the reason this thread was started. We haven't really talked since then. We're not sidekicks, friends or buddies.

Here's something you might understand when you reach emotional maturity. I agree or disagree with what is posted. It doesn't matter who posted it. Bullshit (for example, declaring the pandemic is over) is bullshit, regardless of the source. Good advice is good advice regardless of the source.

As for the rest of what you agreed with, I suggest you go read the other threads. There have been a few people over the years who might have agreed with me at one time or another.

I've met JBee62 on at least three occasions. I call him an overall good guy with high mental aptitude and a gift for analogies. That said I've often disagreed with him, especially on mongering issues though his Covid analysis has been very useful and well sourced.

P.S. What about all the guys that refuse to meet up with anyone here? I speak of Elvira, The Marquis de Twat, Just TK, or Shoo Swede? I mean we shouldn't expect anyone to go searching mothers' basements in England, Sweden, or even the USA should we? Colombia should be the point of contact right? Anyone met them? Just asking and thanks. Winks.

[Paulie97]

Oops, sorry, I have a life and don't spend every waking minute on this board typing out non-sensical solipsistic essays

Solipsistic? It looks as though the Botero Plaza barfly found a bottle of Aguarente and a thesaurus, what an odd convergence. Yet you've backed yourself into another pot calling the kettle black corner. Oh well. Even an ape can come up with brilliance if he hammers a keyboard long enough. Wink.

[CrowExplorer]

That is why I say for me freedom is a collective right. Just follow rules and move on. What I am trying to say in my post is that the debate here or issue like this in general is not a science one, not the type of science being discussed here. You won't get very far at this point if you only focus on numbers or medical science alone.

I couldn't disagree with you more on freedom being a "collective right". Fuck that.

As far as debate not being about medical science, I agree. This is more of a social science.

I've seen a lot in the past two years, people clinging to dogmas, afraid to voice an opinion that goes against the consensus.

These are not good things, and definitely not my idea of freedom.

[Elvis 2008]

Enjoy your basements gentlemen. Excuse me as I head out to enjoy this fine Cancun day.

LOL. I will be there next week. My passport's pages are all filled up and no one is doing Express. I was going to have wait 8 weeks for a new one or scratch and claw and get an appointment at a passport agency. I got one in El Paso on Thursday thank God!

It is a four hour drive from Cancun, but I hope my gal and I have the time to see the lake of seven colors, lake Bacalar: https://www.google.com/search?q=lake+bacalar&rls=ig&sxsrf=AOaemvIN5 XlPdJK3 MKaOcH3 a__i5 J58 KWw:1641963902047&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwjgwvWYuKv1 AhXSmmoFHVMWCtAQ_AUoAnoECAIQBA&biw=1280&bih=577&dpr=1. 5.

Hope the seaweed is not that bad where you are!

[MarquisdeSade1]

We are all dead. Have fun while you can.

"Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said 75% of vaccinated people who died of COVID-19 had at least four comorbidities, sparking an outpouring of commentary from people surprised by her statement and others saying, "I told you so. ".

The top health official made the comment on ABC's Good Morning America on Friday, days after Dr. Anthony Fauci said on TV that statistics on child hospitalizations are being overblown..

For those jabbed with Chinese sewer water aka the CCP vax.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...d-vaccine-type

[Elvis 2008]

We are all dead. Have fun while you can.

"Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said 75% of vaccinated people who died of COVID-19 had at least four comorbidities, sparking an outpouring of commentary from people surprised by her statement and others saying, "I told you so. ".

The top health official made the comment on ABC's Good Morning America on Friday, days after Dr. Anthony Fauci said on TV that statistics on child hospitalizations are being overblown..

Yeah, these CDC assholes have been having a hard time these days. I have lost track of the quarantine times: 5 days for health care workers, 10 for everyone else and 14 for travelers and who needs to be tested prior to travelling or going back to work? In the mean time, omicron is so mild you have people out doing whatever they want when they could be working and teachers in Chicago saying they will only do remote because they are afraid for their lives. I cannot imagine how many pressure they are under now with everyone screaming at them. I almost feel sorry for these CDC bastards. Almost.

Thing is the CDC was overcounting deaths and hospitalization to scare everyone. Then when they used the same methodology and the numbers were like a million cases a day (and it looked like nothing they did was working), the CDC is now changing the methodology to undercount. This is not science; it is fucking politics.

Still, the CDC director is shilling for vaccines, but her days are numbered. She did not agree with Lord Fauci on the triple vaccination being "fully vaccinated", and she was right to do it, but she is going to be axed.

This is a good link as to why she is gone and why so few people should get triple vaxxed: https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.co...-goes-down-the.

And the vaccine is so political. The data shows the vaccine worked great against the first two waves, so-so against the third, and does jack shit for this one. But how many people have been following the data in real time?

I have not reviewed the data, but Dr. Malone said much the same thing on Joe Rogan as this guy did: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/n...ccines-must-be.

"The numbers in the Denmark study described below are now confirmed by government data from Germany showing that vaccinated people are 8 X more likely to develop Omicron than unvaccinated people. This is not surprising since a paper from Germany showed the same thing: the more you vaccinate, the worse it gets.

Worried about Omicron? Guess what? After 90 days, the vaccine they gave you is going to make you more likely to get infected from Omicron, not less."

If this is right, and Fauci, Collins, and Walensky had any honor, they should take a hint from the Japanese and commit seppuku.

[JjBee62]

Nice insult but you did not answer the question. What have you been doing the last 2 years since the pandemic began? All I hear from you is your criticizing anyone else while talking nothing about yourself. Mr. E has been travelling so has JJBee, JustTK, Nounce but you have been mum. I repeat, what have YOU been doing?

Heaven forbid I stand up for Paulie, but in the past 5 years he has very rarely posted trip reports. For a few years, I don't think he posted once, although he was certainly in Medellin more than once during that time. Most of his posts, except on this thread have been a response to someone else.

While it's certainly possible he hasn't traveled during the pandemic, you really can't go off of what he's posted to determine whether he's left home or not.

Even if he has stayed home, I'm sure he's not the only one. Everyone has their own tolerance for risk and it's not limited to the pandemic. There are plenty of guys here who won't go to El Centro. Whether it's a real or imagined risk, it's not one they are willing to take.

I'll throw myself under the bus on this subject. Originally I was hoping to get back to Colombia this spring. That was my plan until a few months ago. However, now I'm uncertain. After vax, plus booster, plus Covid (Alpha or Delta), I'm confident that if I get infected again, it won't be serious (confident doesn't mean I'm right, just that it's not a worry). The risk of getting Covid doesn't bother me, but the risk of another quarantine gives me pause.

Fortunately, I have options. Traveling domestically removes the quarantine risk and my girlfriend* has her visa. She would happily come here, at my expense, to play tourist for a few weeks. The downside is I'll be limited to one girl, and I won't get to decompress like I do in Medellin. It will also be more expensive. On the plus side, it's been over 20 years since I've played tourist in the US.

[Elvis 2008]

Didn't you notice that Elvis was not really saying vaccine does not work, although that may seem what he was saying, but based on the reply, I think he was saying virus is evolving faster than vaccine development.

Yeah, that is exactly right. The virus is evolving faster than the vaccine. If you have been vaccinated 180 days ago, you have no protection against omicron. If you get triple vaxxed, you have like 25% protection for 90 days. Unless you have a rare immune issue, I do not see why anyone would get triple vaxxed because omicron is so mild. There are some people saying the more you get vaxxed now the more likely you are get to infected.

Pfizer and Moderna have omicron vaccines in the works but they will not be available until March and omicron will probably be gone by then.

[JjBee62]

Oops, sorry, I have a life and don't spend every waking minute on this board typing out non-sensical solipsistic essays and giving input on anything and everything related to Colombia.

I keep it short and sweet and 95% of my posts are otg reports with the other 5% are laughing my ass off replying to you paulie and villainy in this silly thread. Peace.

Everyone has their own way. Some guys go to Veracruz, some go to the casas, some go to Gusto. Which is the right way? Some guys never post OTG reports, some post every single encounter, some seldom post reports, but answer questions and give useful information. Which is the right way?

Is giving input, answering questions and helping out others a bad thing? You do it, on a pretty wide variety of subjects. Why is bad when I do it?

It takes all the different styles to make ISG work. I think most people understand that.