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01-23-22 22:10 #22026
Posts: 6Agencies
So I've been living in Kiev for about 3 months now. I like it so far. Are we allowed to talk about what the best / most reliable agencies are? GFE girls seem to be pretty rare.
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01-23-22 21:58 #22025
Posts: 135Originally Posted by VinDici [View Original Post]
I too experienced this with a Mamba girl.
Now, thinking if it's Kiev again next summer or not, my main concern is two-fold: will there be 3000 uah girl-next-door girls available, and would I find regular female company to hang out in the city. The latter doesn't relate to this forum, but the first one does. Based on the experience last summer, the prices were high for many girls. I think agencies from Telegram could be an option, but not my preferable one.
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01-20-22 11:33 #22024
Posts: 350Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
I booked a private box at the ballet, and picked one that seemed to be the most discreet seating.
When we were there I was hoping to slip my hand up her skirt, but she stopped me, and I got a half hearted handy, but she was so concerned about us being found out, that there was no skill applied, as such I couldn't even get hard. Total waste of tickets, hors the'oeuvres and drinks. I fucked her when we got home, but all in all it was a disappointment. Obviously she wanted another meet during my visit, so I made a booking, but I cancelled on her at the last minute as punishment.
Anyone here had sucess fucking a girl at the theatre / opera / ballet, and if so, how did you manage it?
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01-19-22 23:38 #22023
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Kozerog [View Original Post]
Yeah, there's variety in the city. At least 30 universities, plus academies and colleges. Kiev National University has 20,000 students. Add to this mix the office workers, barbers, cashiers, and even those with the main occupation of extracting money from the members of this Forum. Abundance of females hungry for all sorts of entertainment. And the city obliges.
Over time I made enough connections. Sufficient to stay in touch even after 2+ years away, and still finding new ones, if only for conversation these days. Those connections showed me life beyond the strip clubs, massage parlors, hourly girls, Arena City, and GIA. Day and night, - truly endless possibilities opened up.
I did have a strong intention, and even a young enough designated partner for social dancing. But due to the usual over-subscription and bandwidth limitations it didn't materialize.
My other option is Theater. Wide spectrum of offerings in Kiev. Ladies love it. The best way to get a dedicated regular for sure.
Concerts of visiting artists of all calibers from David Garrett to rock, progressive, jazz, and beyond. And I prefer to arrive to those with a reliable female, that, as Kozerog stated awhile ago, I'd be proud of having on my arm. Showing off is not exactly the main purpose, and yet a beautiful intelligent woman is a joy. More than once I had to take care of two beauties at the Theater. It definitely helps when one of them is trustworthy, and will not throw a jealousy tantrum.
I wouldn't designate places-to-eat as a night life, but I do spend considerable time in those. With ladies, or people watching, or simply working. Never really hunt for girls there, because I am rapidly approaching 60, and am not exactly a Brad Pitt. But on a few occasions I had to delay a little my dinner date with an incoming one, because the outgoing was still present.
The main advantage the Kiev provides is erasing the taboo against the middle-aged man having a young female partner in public. Yes, some girls objected to my suggestions to go out, especially in the beginning. Later most of them warmed up and didn't mind. Stigma is not that visible in that society. Perhaps the main reason is the demographic dis-balance and competition for males that can provide, improve the quality of life, including the night life.
Anyway, whatever strikes your fancy outside of our main hobby, or coinciding with it, Kiev may have it. I'd like to take DJ classes, already took studio photography 1:1 with female instructor and beautiful models. For the latter I insisted that we won't do anything erotic (it was still on the border). Languages is another venue. Teaching English for free, or learning Ukrainian for an hourly fee. Kiev became so cosmopolitan over the last 10-15 years!
To be continued.
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01-16-22 14:16 #22022
Posts: 231Kiev girl
A super great friend of mine from Belarus is in Kiev for super company.
If interrested pm me.
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01-13-22 06:12 #22021
Posts: 242Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
I've had lots of indications of interest (IOIs) over the years while social dancing in Kyiv, but I never followed up for several reasons:
1) I have that regular and other girls can't easily compete with her in my eye. I'm not in love with this girl, far from it, but I am lazy and won't stray as long as she continues to deliver reliable and trouble-free results.
2) Many of these IOIs were obviously for a serious civilian relationship, eventually leading to marriage and children, by women around 30 who are starting to get desperate and thus willing to ignore or be deluded about my age (61 currently). Incompatible goals, so no point wasting their time or mine.
3) Some IOIs were from attractive women age 45 and up. Why bother when I have that much younger regular? These women could offer true love, which the regular doesn't offer, but I am too old to care. Anyway, I couldn't love them back because I'm too old to love anything except money. Speaking of which, saving money is no reason to exchange my regular for a civilian, since the regular is well within my budget.
4) Some IOIs were from university girls, the sort who are open to short-term sexual relationships for the pure sake of adventure, and these are tempting as offering variety, instead of only seeing that regular. However, there's the risk of scandal: social dancing is a small world and gossip travels fast. IMO, better to hunt for university girls on mamba and leave them alone where social dancing is concerned. Maybe someone with better skills at seducing university girls could succeed where I am too lazy and risk-averse to try.
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01-12-22 15:50 #22020
Posts: 1Please tell me
Originally Posted by Timmy21 [View Original Post]
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01-11-22 21:58 #22019
Posts: 25Hi all,
I just come back from one week in Kiev.
Christmas weather was very nice. Cold with an amazing blue sky, and snow after.
A lot of places are very well decorated. It's very beautiful to see.
As usual I worked a few days before the trip on mamba and I've found enough contact before the trip. For me tinder is a big waste of time, mamba is really far more efficient on this subject.
About strip club, I was in princess 2 times. I was in this place from a previous trip, and recognize some of the girls.
I took for a few dances an amazing slim brunette, she recognizes me from my first trip, she was glued to me during all the dances, and it's the kind of girl who comes to take your hands and place them at strategic places.
For my second visit she saw me as soon as I arrived in the club and dances were even better. I also tried massage, this one is not erotic at all, but it allows to talk to the girl in a quiet place.
Another small but with perfect body girl was also here, I don't use to tip lazy girls, but this one deserved money, and was grateful to get some.
For sure I will go again to Kiev for my next holidays.
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01-11-22 01:00 #22018
Posts: 164Originally Posted by WadPro [View Original Post]
Is sad how bad are going stripclubs in city, it used to be a stripclub paradise before covid.
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01-10-22 21:49 #22017
Posts: 823Night Life
Question: What is your definition of "Night Life"?
I understand that for some of respected gentlemen here it is good fun in the strip club, booze, scantily clad women, and more. The proverbial night out in the Western City.
Any other opinions?
I do not offer this survey to criticize. On the contrary, - looking for feedback, fully expecting some of it being radically different from my perception of the universe.
Best regards!
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01-10-22 02:29 #22016
Posts: 14Thank you for your valuable assessments and reviews, but I had already completed my short (2 nights) trip before I saw your response. I will consider your review for my next trip in this summer. Let me share my Kiev trip details with you.
Before getting to Kiev I started to look for girls on Tinder, and I found two girls, one of them was a girl with huge boobs like "E" cup size, and the other one was a blond girl with average size boobs. At first I scheduled meetings with both of them for Saturday, then I took my meeting with the busty girl to Friday night and I met her. We sat in a bar and spent two hours together then we agreed on meeting on Saturday. I was aware of the "no sex on the first day" rule.
Then I started to discover the strip clubs at Friday night, first I went to Princess club but I didn't like the environment, it was full of low class people from the middle east and the whole club was covered with hookah and cigarette smoke, and the girls were average or below than average. I left the club without sitting. Then I went to Rio, but it was closed. I entered Tootsie club next to Rio, but the I observed the same thing there, middle easterners and their smoke, and average girls, I left that club in one minute. By the way the security staff in Tootsie was annoying, they were looking at me as if they are about to beat me, I didn't understand why they were so harsh. I experienced such a thing first time in Kiev. Then I went to Rhino club at Lesi first, but I didn't sit there because it was covered with cigarette and hookah smoke, the club was not looking like a good place. After that I tried the other Rhino at Solmenka, at first everything was looking better, no cigarette smoke, no middle easterners, and better girls. So I decided to sit in and ordered some sushi. I firstly realized the sushi was awful, secondly I realized that there were only 7 girls in the club. I liked only one of them (a tall blond with big boobs) and I had a private dance with her, two songs dance for 600 grivnas, after the two songs were over she asked me whether I wanted her to continue, and I said I will think about that, but she didn't allow me to leave the room and she danced for one more song, then she asked for another 600 grivnas, I objected, and I said I didn't ask you to dance more, and if there was a communication problem, okay let me pay 300 grivnas because you danced for just one song, but the girl and the waitress insisted on charging 600 grivnas by saying each additional song is 600 grivnas. I am a wealthy guy and 300 grivnas are nothing for me but I felt like I was ripped off and I decided to pay the money they wanted and leave the club immediately. But what happened next? First, the waitress tried to rip me off one more time by not deducting the drinks and the sushi from the deposit (1.000 grivnas), then she did it after my warning, I paid 3.000 grivnas for the 2. 820 grivnas bill, but the waitress didn't come back after getting money from me. I went to the bar to take my change, but the same waitress told me she thought that it was a tip. I said "no tips" and asked for the change, and they made me wait at least 5 minutes to give me 180 grivnas. Then I tore that 180 grivnas off as soon as they gave it to me to show them I wanted that change for another reason. And I left the club. I didn't go to Harem and Dolls because I already know that those clubs are shitholes from my past experience. By the way some taxi drivers are always recommending the dolls club and it shows that those taxi drivers have a commission deal with the club.
Anyway, after that I went to another club which was more expensive (private dance is for 1500 grivnas) and I was only one of the two customers in the club, there was no smoke and the there were only 6 girls in the club but they were more beautiful. I stayed there until 6:00 AM and I took one of the girls out for $700. She didn't give me a condomless blowjob but I was satisfied with her beauty and her sex service. I wish I negotiated for a condomless blowjob before paying, in that case she couldn't have rejected blowjob without condom. This was a good lesson for me.
The next day, the busty girl whom I met on thinder came to my hotel, she was not looking like a pro or semi-pro, but on our second day she asked for $500 as a gift, and I gave her the money she wanted. Because I really wanted her. And hopefully I was satisfied with her and she really made me happy. She gave me blowjob without condom, she offered me regular massage and boob massage, and her BJ technique was impressive, she also gave me boobjob and I literally fucked her huge boobs a few times. Somehow fucking huge boobs gives me more pleasure than fucking a pussy.
This is the brief of my Kiev adventure.
By the way I recommend BBQ croissants in Lviv Croissants bakeries. It's really delicious and good for breakfast.
Originally Posted by SprKiev21 [View Original Post]
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01-08-22 16:02 #22015
Posts: 28Sure. Happy to help. Well, it's kind of hard to rank clubs because in general all of them suck these days (comparing to even 5 years ago).
And it's partially due to demographically changes and obviously COVID has a huge impact on nightlife venues.
So anyways. Here is my latest take based on my 4 trips to Kiev in 2021.
Princess. - 6/10.
Normally around 20 dancers on shift)) Girls look better than other places, Private dances in general OK but depends on girl (some of them could be very hot others will not even allow you to touch them).
VIP rooms very dark so you won't see much. Take out possible for $300 but not for the best looking girls.
Rio - 5/10.
Used to be #1 place in Kiev but not anymore. They still have around 30 dancers on shift but very few hotties. Also the place is normally more crowded than.
Other clubs so it will not be easy to drag attention of a good looking girl despite giving tips or whatever. So if you really like someone than talk to.
Floor manager "Yurij" his name. He' a very nice guy and will make sure that the girl you like will land at your table (if available).
Take out possible for $300 but generally not for the best looking girls.
Paradise Cabaret. 4/10.
Very private place located inside Premier Palace hotel. They advertise it as a 5 star hotel and charge crazy prices but on reality it's.
A bit renovated old Soviet piece of junk and you can get excellent aibnb apartment for 1/2 of it's price. So anyway. Paradise Cabaret.
Normally very few girls (4-6 on shift) . Actually could be good-looking (due to privacy of this place) but Very sharky style of behavior.
They'll try to suck as much cash out of you as possible for every move you make and every word you say.
Take out possible for $300 but there is a catch. You also need to book a room in that crappy hotel and that's another $100 on top.
So the girls basically cater to those who already lives in that crappy place or make you to buy a room.
Rhino at Lesi. 5/10.
There might be few good-looking girls on shift but limited touching for private dances and not take out option available.
Rhino at Solmenka. 5/10.
Same as Rhino at Lesi.
Scarlette - 0/10 Permanently Closed (but you didn't loose much as it wasn't the best place in the past same management as RIO).
Dolls. 5/10.
I'd rank it same as Rio (although RIO used to be much better). Normally around 20 girls on shift but mostly average looking.
Place can also get very crowded after mid-night. Take out available for $300 but not for the best looking girls.
Harem. 2/10.
Shit-Hole and tourist trap. Stay away.
Few general things to keep in mind.
1. If your ultimate goal to bring a girl back to your apartment than go to club around 2 am. This will increase your chances of getting laid.
Because ideal timing for the girl to "go out" is a couple of hours before closing (normally all clubs operate until 6 am unless it's very slow night).
2. Do not waste you $$ into the air. I mean it's OK to tip girls (normally 100 UAH) or take her for private dance (500-600 UAH).
Do not buy food or drinks without confirmed agreement for take out. Do not use champagne rooms cause it's just a tool for ripping you off (consummation).
3. Even if you managed to take out the girl you like. This still doesn't grantee you'll get a good service. I mean you can get best GFE session in your.
Life, but in my experience it's 50/50.
4. Do not try to get a phone number from a girl but if you really liked her and you had a good time (outside of the club) than do give her your number.
5. Keep in mind that best looking girls (if you're lucky to find any) normally are not available for take out. And that's for 2 reasons:
1) They generate a good amount of cash on private dances and not looking for extra income (I mean fucking with a stranger outside of the club).
2) Club management trying to keep best looking girls inside the club (pay them extra $$ to keep cheer-leaders around to attract visitors.
Good luck and good fuck.
Originally Posted by WadPro [View Original Post]
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01-07-22 07:17 #22014
Posts: 14Originally Posted by SprKiev21 [View Original Post]
It seems you are an expert in girl hunting in Ukraine. I really appreciate your experience, and I have learned much from your posts. I will be in Kiev at this weekend for two nights only. My time is limited but my budget is not. My pocket is deep, and I can even pay $1.000 for an amazing girl.
My plan is spending some time in strip clubs. I would prefer to take a girl out but it's not necessary. I like to touch and play with beautiful girls preferably big natural boobs during a private dance. At this point, apart from princess (I read your positive review about it) which strip clubs would you recommend? My first criterion is the quality of the girls no matter take out option is possible or not. I can visit two clubs for each night I guess. Would you rate these strip clubs by number 1-10? I will go to the top four clubs you will recommend.
Princess.
Rio.
Paradise Cabaret.
Rhino at Lesi.
Rhino at Solmenka.
Scarlette.
Dolls.
Harem.
Secondly, after enjoying the best strip clubs, I will try to take the best girl out. If it doesn't work I will call a high-end escort from OMG or Menskiev.
Urgently need your advice. Thank you.
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01-05-22 01:23 #22013
Posts: 28I hear you Bro. I've been using GIA periodically since 2012 and never had issues. I mean most of the girls obviously not the best looking but punctual and provided professional services so I had always booked with confidence. However;- on my latest business trip to Kiev I had extremely negative experience with ARINA and would highly suggest everyone to stay away from this girl. When I met her she looked very different from pictures on the website. I mean it was her but the pictures are heavily photo-shopped. In reality she's very skinny with average looking "foxy" face and small tits (size 0). That was definitely a red flag for me and I should have send her back. But I was drunk and horny so.
I had envied her anyways hoping for the good services and that was a huuuge mistake. As soon as she entered she grabbed cash from table and started to ask me tones of questions. I'm a polite guy even when I drink more than normal but after 15 minutes of chitchatting I told her (politely) to shut-up and go take a shower. So she spent another 15 minutes in shower while I was getting really enjoyed. Finally she got out and said "I really apologize that my travel to shower took so long. I just needed to do some additional make up to look the best for you " ! So 1/2 hour wasted into nowhere. I just asked her to get in the bad hoping that the rest of this "date" will work out, but instead.
Of getting down to business she started telling me things like. "I don't like to be touched here and there. " and so on and as a result I got turned off completely and asked her to leave which she did in split second not even apologizing for ruining my day. So anyways I've been used this agency in the past and have never seen something like this. Extremely negative lesson to remember. I would rather flashed $200 into the toilet.
Originally Posted by Timmy21 [View Original Post]
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01-01-22 04:31 #22012
Posts: 6Meet up or chat
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