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  1. #6068
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Socialists mentality. People are leaving these states because they pay the highest wages and get the best returns on real estate. They don't leave because of the high taxes, high crime rates and woke democrat leadership. Makes sense to me. LOL.
    No, many wouldn't leave for any of those reasons. The states that pay the highest wages, mostly blue states and cities are not coincidentally also the states and cities with the highest real estate costs and values.

    Anyone whose mortgage was paid off on that high ticket real estate thanks to their higher incomes over decades are sitting on a relative gold mine at retirement. They could relocate to any pissant red state, buy outright for cash and play on the internet from now on if they want.

    Oh, and thanks solely to Clinton and the Dems in Congress but zero thanks to even one Repub, a married filing jointly retired couple would pocket the first $500,000 in equity on the sale of their primary residence 100% tax free.

    Yep, just another example of a truly meaningful, positive life-altering tax cut enacted by Dems and not Repubs whose only tax cuts are a joke by comparison. And a sick joke at that considering every time Repubs enact their disproportionately high tax cuts for the already wealthy it comes at the price of another Great Repub Crash, Plunging Property Values and Massive Jobs Destruction.

  2. #6067
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    Further proof Biden has created zero jobs in a year. Only four states are back to employment levels pre pandemic when Trump was president. Biden needs 5 million more jobs created to get to Trump record employment numbers.

    Texas has bounced back after two years of pandemic-related unemployment spikes and is currently outperforming its pre-COVID-19 levels of unemployment.

    Arizona, Utah and Idaho are the only other three states to regain all the jobs lost to the pandemic, The Wall Street Journal noted Tuesday.

    New York, on other hand, is lagging far behind the Lone Star State. New York State Budget Director told reporters on Tuesday that the state has recovered less than two-thirds of the jobs lost due to the pandemic. The economy is still 5 million jobs under the peak reached before the pandemic, according to Forbes.
    I posted this link for the official source of Jobs Created vs Jobs Lost before to substantiate the Jobs Created under Biden but will post it again:

    https://www.bls.gov/home.htm?view_full

    The United States Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn't count "people who returned to work after calling in sick" as an added job.

    All Great Repub Crashes that wipe out millions of jobs, as Trump's did, are counted as jobs lost. All Great Dem Recoveries and Expansions that recover and create jobs, as Biden's is doing at a historic pace and level, are counted as jobs gained.

  3. #6066
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Everything you said is true but you made a mistake. You were talking about the democrats and Biden. Are you still glowing about Biden and the stock market down 4% already this year? Biden inflation is affecting the market not just the poor. And Biden policies driving oil prices and oil stocks higher. Oil at $88 a barrel double what it was under Trump administration. America is waking up. They see the mess Biden got us into. Only the fools avoid talking about it. The fools still want to talk about the past because the future is looking grim.
    Wow. Now you're beaten down to the "I know you are but what am I?" argument level.

    There is no history of Dems producing and presiding over the half dozen or so major economic downturns of the past century, only Repubs. There is no history of Repubs producing and presiding over the half dozen or so major economic expansions of the past century, only Dems.

    I think your response is the most convincing evidence yet that the wingers' political party preference is more about stupidity and incompetence rather than intention when it comes to the Repubs' consistent economic failures.

  4. #6065

    Real News Report: Four new Subpoenas today

    Four new subpoenas went out today from the January 6th insurrection investigative committee.

    Subpoenas were served today on Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis, Boris Epshtevn and Rudolph Giuliani.

    "the four individuals we've subpoenaed today advanced unsupported theories about election fraud, pushed efforts to overturn the election results, or were in direct contact with the former President about attempts to stop the counting of electoral votes. " - Chairman Bernie Thompson of Massachusetts.

  5. #6064

    2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Yep! Anyone who wants the "proof" of Trump's lack of originality in his "fake news" shtick can simply google "Lgenpresse". The Nazis were extremely proficient in that technique, and even they were hardly the first.

    And Trump's disciples parroting that ridiculous, discredited slogan every time they have a chance -- what an embarrassment!
    It is the year 2022 Biden is an incompetent president. Realists talk Biden. Socialists talk about Trump. Yes we all agree things would be better if Trump was president and you keep reminding us. You are in fantasyland and can't accept the reality of the Biden presidency. Ignoring it won't make Biden go away.

  6. #6063
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    If one goes back 4 to 5 years and looks at every post from every rightwingnut who has posted on this board, at least one of these 5 items is used in their response.

    They get these tactics from the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, who got it from the fascist dictator who ran Germany 80-some-odd years ago. So the tactics aren't new by any means. What is really scary is that the fascists who post here don't recognize the tactics. Anyone who went to school past grade school was taught that these things happened.

    The one-term, twice-impeached former guy (and our current crop of fascist representatives and fascist posters) also use some other tactics common to what was used in Germany. 1. Always deny that you said it or did it, even though there is a video or audio record of you saying it or doing it. Keep denying until it is no longer newsworthy; 2. Move the goal posts when you get backed into a corner. This is especially important as it gives you time to dream up another lie; 3. Always attack; 4. Always belittle. Use derisive nicknames if possible because people with a low IQ will think it is funny, and, most importantly, 5. Keep repeating the lie until it becomes acceptable. It doesn't make any difference if it is a small lie or a whopper. In fact, the bigger the lie, the louder and longer you must yell. Eventually the sheep will believe anything.
    Yep! Anyone who wants the "proof" of Trump's lack of originality in his "fake news" shtick can simply google "Lügenpresse". The Nazis were extremely proficient in that technique, and even they were hardly the first.

    And Trump's disciples parroting that ridiculous, discredited slogan every time they have a chance -- what an embarrassment!

  7. #6062

    Very, very true

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    1. Call anyone who doesn't agree with us a liar.

    2. Call anyone who disagrees with us a socialist (communist, Marxist, etc).

    3. When they provide the proof, call it "fake news".

    4. Stay as vague as possible and deflect when challenged. Facts don't matter. Only faith matters.

    5. It's not a lie when you believe in it.
    If one goes back 4 to 5 years and looks at every post from every rightwingnut who has posted on this board, at least one of these 5 items is used in their response.

    They get these tactics from the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, who got it from the fascist dictator who ran Germany 80-some-odd years ago. So the tactics aren't new by any means. What is really scary is that the fascists who post here don't recognize the tactics. Anyone who went to school past grade school was taught that these things happened.

    The one-term, twice-impeached former guy (and our current crop of fascist representatives and fascist posters) also use some other tactics common to what was used in Germany. 1. Always deny that you said it or did it, even though there is a video or audio record of you saying it or doing it. Keep denying until it is no longer newsworthy; 2. Move the goal posts when you get backed into a corner. This is especially important as it gives you time to dream up another lie; 3. Always attack; 4. Always belittle. Use derisive nicknames if possible because people with a low IQ will think it is funny, and, most importantly, 5. Keep repeating the lie until it becomes acceptable. It doesn't make any difference if it is a small lie or a whopper. In fact, the bigger the lie, the louder and longer you must yell. Eventually the sheep will believe anything.

  8. #6061

    I agree with Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    1. Call anyone who doesn't agree with us a liar.

    2. Call anyone who disagrees with us a socialist (communist, Marxist, etc).

    3. When they provide the proof, call it "fake news".

    4. Stay as vague as possible and deflect when challenged. Facts don't matter. Only faith matters.

    5. It's not a lie when you believe in it.
    I agree with Canada and I am a registered democrat. Democrats, independents and Republicans don't agree with the socialists, communists or whatever you call yourselves. Fake news, wokeness, racist and lies define the socialists on this site. Americans are tired of socialists like you. Americans know the pitfalls of socialism and what it has done to other countries. Stop hating America.

  9. #6060
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    There are two (2) reasons for the internal migration.

    One is that xenophobic uneducated wingers are moving from states with high populations of immigrants to low education states like Florida and Texas where they'll fit in better with their fellow deplorables.

    The second reason is taxes. Wingers would rather move to a low tax state so that they can get freebies from the federal gummint. 'Cause that's what wingers do. They talk a good game but states with the largest influx of federal dollars are red.

    But, if the wingers get their way and we have a national divorce, blue states can lower their tax base because they don't have to give back to the red states. We can then build a wall around the red states and let them rot.
    Claiming that blacks and Hispanics are moving from California are deplorables because they want to get away from high taxes and crime. Racist and disgusting.

  10. #6059

    5 most important pointers from right-wingers playbook

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    1. A socialist is someone like you or Xpartan who posts the nonsense and lies. For a clearer picture of a socialist just look in the mirror.
    1. Call anyone who doesn't agree with us a liar.

    2. Call anyone who disagrees with us a socialist (communist, Marxist, etc).

    3. When they provide the proof, call it "fake news".

    4. Stay as vague as possible and deflect when challenged. Facts don't matter. Only faith matters.

    5. It's not a lie when you believe in it.

  11. #6058

    Great

    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    The Washington Post reported January 14 on the southern migration, which is now reversing the historic "Great Migration" of black Americans from the South to northern cities during the 1900's:

    "For the second census in a row, Chicago and its suburbs lost Black population, and has decreased by 130,000 since 1990. In Michigan, both the Detroit and Flint metropolitan areas lost Black population in absolute terms. Metro New York recorded its second consecutive loss in Black population, losing about 110,000 Black residents since 2000. In California, metro Los Angeles has lost 160,000 Black residents since 1990, while metro San Francisco has lost 90,000."

    All people seek a better life for themselves and their families which includes safe neighborhoods, good education for their children, better jobs, lower cost of living, and yes, less taxes and an end to incompetent & corrupt ideological left wing government. That is the reason for the mass migration away from Democratic One Party States and Cities. You ain't seen nothing yet.
    Great to see more democrats on this forum standing up to the socialists lies and fabrications on this forum. Great post.

  12. #6057

    4 states employment back to pre pandemic levels

    Further proof Biden has created zero jobs in a year. Only four states are back to employment levels pre pandemic when Trump was president. Biden needs 5 million more jobs created to get to Trump record employment numbers.

    Texas has bounced back after two years of pandemic-related unemployment spikes and is currently outperforming its pre-COVID-19 levels of unemployment.

    Arizona, Utah and Idaho are the only other three states to regain all the jobs lost to the pandemic, The Wall Street Journal noted Tuesday.

    New York, on other hand, is lagging far behind the Lone Star State. New York State Budget Director told reporters on Tuesday that the state has recovered less than two-thirds of the jobs lost due to the pandemic. The economy is still 5 million jobs under the peak reached before the pandemic, according to Forbes.

  13. #6056

    People leaving

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    What those states have in common is they have among the highest incomes and best returns on real estate investment in America. Maybe those people took their lifelong income advantages and investment gains, converted their residents into rental property and bought some cheap home in a depressed red state for cash or leased at ridiculously low rent rates.

    That is similar to what I did at retirement from California. But I chose a place to live in retirement that provides a hell of a lot more fun, pleasure and comfort advantages than any red state you've got.

    BTW, assuming your totally unsubstantiated assertion is true, how did United Van Lines know how many people were moving each time a van was booked?

    I mean, if only the loony uncle who cracks everyone up at Thanksgiving dinner with his idiotic FUX News Channel fake news rantings was the one moving while 10 other members of the extended family stayed put, that pretty much destroys your entire totally unsubstantiated premise and point.
    Socialists mentality. People are leaving these states because they pay the highest wages and get the best returns on real estate. They don't leave because of the high taxes, high crime rates and woke democrat leadership. Makes sense to me. LOL.

  14. #6055

    You are wrong again

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    "Woke". The favorite fascist label. It means "Here is somebody who is educated and can think for themselves. I hate them because I am uneducated and I know that Tucker "Nobody in their right mind can believe anything I say" Carlson is right all the time".

    According to you, Democrats don't support "freedom of speech" yet Repugs continually muzzle people who don't tow the party line (see Cheney, Liz).

    According to you, Democrats don't support "freedom of thought" yet Repugs continually muzzle people who don't tow the party line (see Cheney, Liz).

    According to you, Democrats don't support "freedom of assembly" because Democrats believe that the January 6th riot was a riot..
    You are wrong again. Woke means socialists bullshit. Democrats support freedom of speech. Socialists don't. Democrats support free elections. Socialists don't. They want to try to work the system with no voter IDs and harvesting ballots. Socialists cheat and lie. You are proof of that.

    Antifa and BLM are domestic terrorists. Democrats know that. Socialists glorify them.

    Democrats voted Biden in because he was a moderate democrat. Now that he is catering to the socialists he is losing the support of the moderates. If you are moderate democrat you are against his policies that are bringing in record inflation. If you are a socialist you blame the republicans, Trump, Santa Claus and the tooth fairy. Your support of Biden disaster proves you are a socialist. No denying it.

  15. #6054

    Pretty easy to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    I knew that you would say "fake news". It is virtually all you do. The numbers are correct and you are wrong. Again.
    Pretty easy to say when for the last 6 months all you have posted was fake news. Can't help it if you only go to liberal news sites for your information.

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