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[Member #4730]

Will be in Tijuana from February 2 - 5. Depending on when the world really opens up from COVID, may be my last Tijuana trip for awhile. Likely going to try German FKK & Colombia next. Plus I have other totally none mongering trips to take.

Have 2 nights booked at Rizo de Oro at the Tropical bar. Still need a hotel for my last night in Tijuana. The hotels at Chicago & Adelita don't allow online booking. Might go outside the zona as well.

Can anyone recommend a top flight recent experience with an escort? If yes, might pick a nice hotel outside the zona. What about some of the clubs outside the zona with attached hotels? Worthwhile?

You could try Deja Vu if it is a weekend. During the weekday I went it was dead and the ladies available were all curvy and kind of chunky. I prefer a more slim, curvy figure. I haven't been to Las Cueva Del Peludo, but try to check it out one day. The girl I'm with wanted to check out Amenesia gentleman's club on Revo, but she was upset I went into HK while she was working, so didn't get opportunity to check it out. As far as hotels, they have Ticuan on Revo or La Mansion (4 hour) short time motel, I think zona Rio, but located right off via rapida pte. No suggestions regarding escorts, but probably check out escort section. Have fun!

[TomJackin]

I just saw this today and not sure what to make about it:

San Ysidro, Calif. — USA Customs and Border Protection will require essential border-crossers to be fully vaccinated before entering the United States starting Saturday.

Truckers, students and other essential workers who are non-USA Citizens will now have to declare proof of vaccination to cross into the country, according to border officials. The USA Will require proof of vaccination from all foreign nationals crossing from Mexico and Canada.

Sophia Rodriguez and her friend Darrianna Moreno cross the border several times a week.

"I think they got to take care of the people that live here, so I think that's fine," Moreno said. "I think that's fair enough."

Any thoughts?

[Member #4730]

Jackie888.

Age. I'm 29 and she's 24. Not much of a difference and yeah she's a party girl but I'm hoping its just a phase. I've been partying since about 14 so I'm over it.

Language. I'm fluent in spanish so no problem.

Culture. My parents came from mexico. We have the same cultural values which I like. Plus she's pretty westernized and thinks more like an american than other mexicanas I have met, another plus.

Independence. My girl doesn't need me which is also a plus. I don't want some third world peasant who is 100% with me for money. But she most likely also knows she can't work / doesn't want to work the bars forever. Most likely sees me as her ticket out.

Other guys. This is a big one, I worry some dude at HK will fall in love with her and flash stupid amounts of cash and take her. Guess its a danger or dating a bar girl. And are sure constant attention? How much? Because everyone says its beta male behavior to be constantly texting your girl.

Distance. I'm in orange county so not too far and we are getting an apartment together in Tijuana.

Family. Again I understand the situation mexicans go through because my parents and family went through it. I would respect her less if she abandoned them actually.

Sol12.

My girl not having kids is one of the main reasons I'm pursuing her. I really don't mind the kids. Its so common among mexicanas that it usually can't be helped. I just know I will always come second or maybe 3rd if the baby daddy is still lurking around.

I wouldn't worry too much about some guy flashing too much cash and swooping her up. It would be a win in my book if she was just in it for the money and less of a future headache for you further along in the relationship. My girl says she has a different personality when working and a "normal" life personality which she wants to keep separate. I find it hard to figure out how they can compartmentalize this aspect of their life. She does tell me interesting stories which make me laugh.

Id recommend just having fun and enjoying the GFE situation as long as it is worth it to you. It is always day by day with my girl as I had no clue she was thinking marriage, but she did break down the other night saying she hates the bind she is in, but I told her I’d try my best to help her if she ever decided to quit. I told her I'd support her in whatever decision she makes and try to make life easier for her as I imagine it's hard trying to convince guys to spend as much as they can by providing an experience. A lot of people say not to date a women with a high body count, but I've been mongering around the world as well so what does that say about men with a high body count? The most difficult part of the relationship is what is her true intention with being with me. So plan for short term and don't have high expectations.

[Big Magick]

I do love and like this girl as she was the top experiences from my worldwide travels. I've been all over the world with most ethnicities. She turns the passion on and you would think after 6 months you wouldn't be able to fake genuine connection. I guess time will tell. I did a threesome with her when I was a client, but she wouldn't even look or talk to me after the experience so I know better than try to attempt something like that again. The top girls I've met were from Sinaloa and Sonora. They have almost a European look to them and I just have to laugh when I travel with my girl as guys young and old are breaking their neck. I bet they wonder what she sees in me and sometimes I wonder the same, but I told her I'm not scared to lose her as I am in a good position in life and could easily find someone else, but it is hard to find genuine connection.

Small world. My girl is from sonora. She looks very European. Probably not a neck breaker like yours but I do catch guys staring. Something I'm used to though from my last civvie girlfriend. If they arent looking at your girl you are with the wrong girl. She's 100% my type though. Small spinner girl. Sometimes I feel like I found a unicorn.

Threeways get tricky because of jealousy. Its never easy! But no girl is special and we can definitely replace them eventually. Its the beauty of tijuana. Theres so many new girls coming in. And I think you're selling yourself short. Guys think in terms of looks so we think "why does this girl like me I'm old, ugly etc" but you are a veteran, so that means you're probably not a beta male with a weak personality. You have cash. Probably more I can say but that's two things already 80% or more of men don't have.

[Rainman306]

Will be in Tijuana from February 2 - 5. Depending on when the world really opens up from COVID, may be my last Tijuana trip for awhile. Likely going to try German FKK & Colombia next. Plus I have other totally none mongering trips to take.

Have 2 nights booked at Rizo de Oro at the Tropical bar. Still need a hotel for my last night in Tijuana. The hotels at Chicago & Adelita don't allow online booking. Might go outside the zona as well.

Can anyone recommend a top flight recent experience with an escort? If yes, might pick a nice hotel outside the zona. What about some of the clubs outside the zona with attached hotels? Worthwhile?

[Big Magick]

Jackie888.

Age. I'm 29 and she's 24. Not much of a difference and yeah she's a party girl but I'm hoping its just a phase. I've been partying since about 14 so I'm over it.

Language. I'm fluent in spanish so no problem.

Culture. My parents came from mexico. We have the same cultural values which I like. Plus she's pretty westernized and thinks more like an american than other mexicanas I have met, another plus.

Independence. My girl doesn't need me which is also a plus. I don't want some third world peasant who is 100% with me for money. But she most likely also knows she can't work / doesn't want to work the bars forever. Most likely sees me as her ticket out.

Other guys. This is a big one, I worry some dude at HK will fall in love with her and flash stupid amounts of cash and take her. Guess its a danger or dating a bar girl. And are sure constant attention? How much? Because everyone says its beta male behavior to be constantly texting your girl.

Distance. I'm in orange county so not too far and we are getting an apartment together in Tijuana.

Family. Again I understand the situation mexicans go through because my parents and family went through it. I would respect her less if she abandoned them actually.

Sol12.

My girl not having kids is one of the main reasons I'm pursuing her. I really don't mind the kids. Its so common among mexicanas that it usually can't be helped. I just know I will always come second or maybe 3rd if the baby daddy is still lurking around.

[Member #4730]

With women I found it best to follow their actions not words. We are both in the same boat. In the back of my mind I get those thoughts of banging other girls and I know I can but I don't really want to. Its a strange back and forth in my mind. You definitely love / like this girl because I was in HK just last week and the talent is there. I was actually sitting with my girl and her bar friends and there was plenty of girls I wanted to put my dick in. Was kind of annoyed my girl was there LOL.

When I told her I was leaving she did the same and escorted me out of the club. She was making sure I didn't walk to another part of the club. My degenerate ass walked straight to tropical though because I saw one of the prettiest girls I've ever seen in the zona at tropical. 19 yr old from sinaloa. Alondra. God this girl was pretty. Reminds me of a 19 yr old spinner I found in HK once. Those young ones look so good as creepy as that sounds. But it just biology. We are biological creatures and its why we still lust for other women even though we like our partners.

I actually had an amazing threesome with two HK girls last week at like 10 am and then saw my girl later that same night. Don't get me wrong the threesome was hot and a good time but its not even that I felt guilty. I just rather be with my girl more. Damn I've really caught the simp bug again.

I do love and like this girl as she was the top experiences from my worldwide travels. I've been all over the world with most ethnicities. She turns the passion on and you would think after 6 months you wouldn't be able to fake genuine connection. I guess time will tell. I did a threesome with her when I was a client, but she wouldn't even look or talk to me after the experience so I know better than try to attempt something like that again. The top girls I've met were from Sinaloa and Sonora. They have almost a European look to them and I just have to laugh when I travel with my girl as guys young and old are breaking their neck. I bet they wonder what she sees in me and sometimes I wonder the same, but I told her I'm not scared to lose her as I am in a good position in life and could easily find someone else, but it is hard to find genuine connection.

[Member #4730]

Seems like there are a couple of issues what mongers have to overcome or at least try to solve before dating a bar girl in Tijuana. I think any guy wanting to date one should consider these issues. Did I miss any?

1. age. She is in her very early 20's, and the time to settle down may not be ripe for her. She likes to party, and she hasn't gotten it out of her system yet.

2. language. Google translate helps, but does not do it all. So ideally the guy learns Spanish and the girl learns English at the same time.

3. culture. Mexicans have a family culture where everyone is involved in major decision making. In the US, we tend to do shit and tell the family later.

4. independence. The better bar girls can support themselves pretty well, so they really don't need your money as much as you think they do.

5. other guys. Bar girls are constantly put on a pedestal by guys. She ain't the mousy librarian that meets a guy once a week. You need to learn to give her a lot of attention.

6. distance. It is a pain in the ass to drive down there for a date. Better plan to move down there.

7. family. She came from a poor family. She ain't going to abandon them. You should budget to help her family out in addition to taking care of her.

I told my girl that she needs to figure out if she is ready for a relationship and she always said she was, but complicated. Also I told her she is young and should explore her options as I am almost twice her age and can relate when I was younger. Language isn't too much of an issue as she has to get certified TOEFL in order to graduate and she is independent and has taken care of herself since she was 17. She doesn't need me or my money and difficult to try and help someone that doesn't need it. Also she told me she falls apart when I leave since she doesn't have any true friends or family in Tijuana. I didn't know and she never told me, but always thought she would hang out with a hometown friend in the area.

She also has a ton of guys trying to date her, take her to eat, vacations, etc. I don't have time to dedicate all my time to her and she does get annoyed when I don't respond timely to her texts. I prefer video chats and think texting is kind of pointless. Also since we are not married and just dating, then I don't feel like I'm obligated to fund family issues and she doesn't feel like I have any obligation to her family either. She is trying to do the best she can juggling work, school, and family obligations. Sad a "decent" salary for workers in her hometown is $100 per week. Her mother was actually still working since she couldn't afford medical expenses so my girl was in a dilemma between not wanting to ask for my help, ending the relationship since she thought I wouldn't stay, and trying to figure out how to make as much money as possible before they go back to in person classes. It is strange how I got to this point, but she is great to me and really hard to imagine how many options she has and yet she still stays with me.

[Sol12]

Seems like there are a couple of issues what mongers have to overcome or at least try to solve before dating a bar girl in Tijuana. I think any guy wanting to date one should consider these issues. Did I miss any?

1. age. She is in her very early 20's, and the time to settle down may not be ripe for her. She likes to party, and she hasn't gotten it out of her system yet.

2. language. Google translate helps, but does not do it all. So ideally the guy learns Spanish and the girl learns English at the same time.

3. culture. Mexicans have a family culture where everyone is involved in major decision making. In the US, we tend to do shit and tell the family later.

4. independence. The better bar girls can support themselves pretty well, so they really don't need your money as much as you think they do.

5. other guys. Bar girls are constantly put on a pedestal by guys. She ain't the mousy librarian that meets a guy once a week. You need to learn to give her a lot of attention.

6. distance. It is a pain in the ass to drive down there for a date. Better plan to move down there.

7. family. She came from a poor family. She ain't going to abandon them. You should budget to help her family out in addition to taking care of her.

I'd say the most important thing is that 90% have kids and if you are up to step into that father role if he's not around or want to deal with the drama of him still wanting to see the kid and mad about her being with some American now.

[Guardman]

I think that most of us guys are in our 40-60 range, and the chicas we are with are about 20. So when she is old and cannot compete, we will all be pushing up the daisies. So it's probably a moot possibility.

I guess I depends on when you think women hit the wall. For me over 35 is on the way down. That's only 15 years from 20 to 35. Plenty of us will still be around then.

[Big Magick]

I did realize the situation for what it is and it is a good time. I wish I would have known earlier. She mentioned she wanted marriage a few weeks ago and I was confused as her actions don't match her words. I never mentioned marriage, but I guess her family must be thinking the same since her mother kept showing me videos of her cousins marriage a year ago. I was confused on that part as well since she doesn't know the "full" complicated story. I think she enjoys being around me as she doesn't have to lie and can live her life without judgement.

I did go to the club to pick her up and she came by and sat with me for a couple of drinks and was upset I was spending money in the club. She actually escorted me out of the club and then went to change so I could take her home. She said she would "kill me" if she saw me being escorted out of the club by another chica. It is really strange how they think, but I haven't had any desire for any other woman and plenty stopped by to rub my dick. One spinner sat next to me for over an hour just eye fucking me and telling me I'm attractive, but I didn't get her a drink or entertain her. Odd how this girl put a spell on me or maybe the talent level since the summer just isn't in town.

Also forgot to add I had my first mile high experience when she gave me a BJ when were flying in business class to Europe. It was exciting since I kept thinking a flight attendant would stop by, but it was a night flight so most were either a sleep or watching movies. She always keeps things interesting. Time will tell how long this journey lasts.

With women I found it best to follow their actions not words. We are both in the same boat. In the back of my mind I get those thoughts of banging other girls and I know I can but I don't really want to. Its a strange back and forth in my mind. You definitely love / like this girl because I was in HK just last week and the talent is there. I was actually sitting with my girl and her bar friends and there was plenty of girls I wanted to put my dick in. Was kind of annoyed my girl was there LOL.

When I told her I was leaving she did the same and escorted me out of the club. She was making sure I didn't walk to another part of the club. My degenerate ass walked straight to tropical though because I saw one of the prettiest girls I've ever seen in the zona at tropical. 19 yr old from sinaloa. Alondra. God this girl was pretty. Reminds me of a 19 yr old spinner I found in HK once. Those young ones look so good as creepy as that sounds. But it just biology. We are biological creatures and its why we still lust for other women even though we like our partners.

I actually had an amazing threesome with two HK girls last week at like 10 am and then saw my girl later that same night. Don't get me wrong the threesome was hot and a good time but its not even that I felt guilty. I just rather be with my girl more. Damn I've really caught the simp bug again.

[Jackie888]

Seems like there are a couple of issues what mongers have to overcome or at least try to solve before dating a bar girl in Tijuana. I think any guy wanting to date one should consider these issues. Did I miss any?

1. age. She is in her very early 20's, and the time to settle down may not be ripe for her. She likes to party, and she hasn't gotten it out of her system yet.

2. language. Google translate helps, but does not do it all. So ideally the guy learns Spanish and the girl learns English at the same time.

3. culture. Mexicans have a family culture where everyone is involved in major decision making. In the US, we tend to do shit and tell the family later.

4. independence. The better bar girls can support themselves pretty well, so they really don't need your money as much as you think they do.

5. other guys. Bar girls are constantly put on a pedestal by guys. She ain't the mousy librarian that meets a guy once a week. You need to learn to give her a lot of attention.

6. distance. It is a pain in the ass to drive down there for a date. Better plan to move down there.

7. family. She came from a poor family. She ain't going to abandon them. You should budget to help her family out in addition to taking care of her.

[Jackie888]

Will you want her when she is old and can't compete? I think I would prefer to trade in for a younger model.

I think that most of us guys are in our 40-60 range, and the chicas we are with are about 20. So when she is old and cannot compete, we will all be pushing up the daisies. So it's probably a moot possibility.

[Member #4730]

Dating a prostitute is like driving a Mclaren down a road with lots of hills and potholes. Lots of fun but dangerous. My girl isn't going to stop working the club and I wouldn't want her to. Its too soon to fully support her and she doesn't want to stop anyways. Its female nature they want to keep their options open but they don't want you to fall in love with another girl and they lose their investment. Its a double standard but those exist. These women do what they do because they are looking for money plain and simple. My hope is I can even help them make more money while I get my fun out of it.

Realized you just got to see the situation for what it is. Not much different than relationships in america. It is going to be hard eventually after years if we are still going and develop more feelings its going to be hard seeing her go to the club for work. Just remember eventually she will age and won't be able to compete with the younger girls and guess who is going to be there to comfort her? Us.

Crazy life we are living here but how cool would it be to end up old with a HK girl? Cool story to tell. I love the unconventional nature of it all. Nothing ever scared me more than being just another normal guy. You know white picket fence, two kids, wife and golden retriever. Boring. A death sentence.

I did realize the situation for what it is and it is a good time. I wish I would have known earlier. She mentioned she wanted marriage a few weeks ago and I was confused as her actions don't match her words. I never mentioned marriage, but I guess her family must be thinking the same since her mother kept showing me videos of her cousins marriage a year ago. I was confused on that part as well since she doesn't know the "full" complicated story. I think she enjoys being around me as she doesn't have to lie and can live her life without judgement.

I did go to the club to pick her up and she came by and sat with me for a couple of drinks and was upset I was spending money in the club. She actually escorted me out of the club and then went to change so I could take her home. She said she would "kill me" if she saw me being escorted out of the club by another chica. It is really strange how they think, but I haven't had any desire for any other woman and plenty stopped by to rub my dick. One spinner sat next to me for over an hour just eye fucking me and telling me I'm attractive, but I didn't get her a drink or entertain her. Odd how this girl put a spell on me or maybe the talent level since the summer just isn't in town.

Also forgot to add I had my first mile high experience when she gave me a BJ when were flying in business class to Europe. It was exciting since I kept thinking a flight attendant would stop by, but it was a night flight so most were either a sleep or watching movies. She always keeps things interesting. Time will tell how long this journey lasts.

[Member #4730]

I went to Deja Vu on Thursday night since the girlfriend was working. Only 2 guys in the club and probably 15-20 ladies. I got a lady from Sinaloa 2 drinks and the mesero said it is her first day. She quoted $150 for room and her time (30-40 min.). I passed as most of the ladies are curvier than I prefer. It would make a great place since close to border, casino, and restaurants, but talent just wasn't there on a Thursday night.