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  1. #33839
    No place is as good for mongering as it was 20 years ago. That's one of the downsides of getting old.

    I had the best mongering of my life this summer when the bars were closed, but maybe that's just me.

    Anyway, there is nothing good that comes out of a post bemoaning Pattaya, compared with 20 years ago, unless you are selling time machines.

  2. #33838

    Nothing wrong with that

    Quote Originally Posted by KievFreak  [View Original Post]
    ... I pretty love to buy ladydrinks for my barfine. I prefer to be sober , i usually drink just coke or soda. It doesnt matter what you drink as long as you buy lady drinks...
    Many mongers don't drink alcohol and they do just fine. The powers to be just want to see their customers spend some money at their establishment. This could be accomplished by buying lady drinks.

  3. #33837

    They are still

    Quote Originally Posted by SwagDaddy  [View Original Post]
    That's too bad. I visited 4 years ago and Bangkok in particular holds a lot of fond memories for me.

    Girls seemed down to earth and happy for what ever tips you gave them. And service was quite good.
    My last trip was in January 2020, and before that I was going every year for a total of 25+ trips. In my experience, Thai girls are still down to earth and happy to be with you. Nothing has changed really, and I don't see how Covid would change that.

    I would say that the GoGo places have gotten expensive. I think this is due to the new well off clientele, comprised of Chinese, Indian, and Korean mongers. I practically stopped patronizing GoGo bars due to this price increase.

  4. #33836
    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Some get turned down because of big dicks that cannot fit in the tiny pussies of the thai girls dear. They come to know this by the huge body size or maybe some other ways that we do not know. Is it your case?

    There can be some other minor reasons, like if you buy a vodka and not a cheap beer, they look at you as a big spender by what drink you take and how you try to spend your money, your clothing and shoes, etc.

    The bar business runs only if you pay up something to the bar. If you do not pay, then the mamasan has instructed already to not go with the guys who do not drink.

    I prefer the freelancers from the road, but the best are the girls you can choose in soapies (shut down for now) or the girls from gogo's. A bit costly but you get what you want and you see everything before you pay.
    No I am not cheap Charlie. I pretty love to buy ladydrinks for my barfine. I prefer to be sober , i usually drink just coke or soda. It doesnt matter what you drink as long as you buy ladydrinks. Here there is a common problem. Girls are extremely stuck up. This is not only me, many will repeat same. Unless you are reasonably young and handsome, you have almost no luck with beautiful Thai girls. Apparently I don't meet their so called criteria. For me, Beautiful Thai girls mean a girl between 18-23 years old ,slim or at least not overweight , has a decent face and of course has no baby damage. I won't dress suit to fuck a prostitutes from bar. I don't date with my girlfriend. Here is hot, and slippers, shorts and T-shirts are common clothes. It seems That, For some people, extremely picky girls are pretty normal. But I have known Thailand since almost 2005. Things are getting worse in terms of mongering here everyday.

  5. #33835
    Quote Originally Posted by KievFreak  [View Original Post]
    Unless I can fuck prostitutes I want, this place for me is not a good mongering destination anymore.

    I have same experiences as you had. Now I just ask girls specific questions before entering a bar. My question usually is " can I finish in your mouth" and "can we kiss with tongue?

    This means technically I will barfine and fuck you, ok? If she says no, I don't enter that bar.

    But this way doesn't work in Gogos because usually you need to order lady drink to "interview" with your favorite girl in gogos.

    Now I started to see too much turning down and girls attitudes are every day going to pit while prices are skyrocketing. This is really not normal for a p4 p scene. Simply this country is not mongering heaven for me anymore. Kenya, Caribbean and even Colombia seem to provide better bang for my bucks now. I didn't visit Philippines yet, I plan to see there and decide also.

    But I can easily say that thai prostitutes are the most stuck up prostitutes in the world.
    Some get turned down because of big dicks that cannot fit in the tiny pussies of the thai girls dear. They come to know this by the huge body size or maybe some other ways that we do not know. Is it your case?

    There can be some other minor reasons, like if you buy a vodka and not a cheap beer, they look at you as a big spender by what drink you take and how you try to spend your money, your clothing and shoes, etc.

    The bar business runs only if you pay up something to the bar. If you do not pay, then the mamasan has instructed already to not go with the guys who do not drink.

    I prefer the freelancers from the road, but the best are the girls you can choose in soapies (shut down for now) or the girls from gogo's. A bit costly but you get what you want and you see everything before you pay.

  6. #33834
    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Do the working girls agree to go with you to Jomtein area on the 10 baht tuktuk / bus?
    I know chicks that work on Soi 6 that live in Jomtien.
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  7. #33833
    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Do the working girls agree to go with you to Jomtein area on the 10 baht tuktuk / bus?
    Yes they do.

  8. #33832

    Living here vs living at home

    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Do the working girls agree to go with you to Jomtein area on the 10 baht tuktuk / bus?
    Well if you and the girl are going back to Jomtien on a baht bus that would cost you 20 baht (unless you make the girl pay her own way). A bolt taxi is around 100 baht, easier to just book that anywhere you are where you found said working girl and head back in one easy step vs baht bus transfers. Most girls are willing to pay the motorbike or taxi in order to get my money, there is a severe lack of customers here at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by KievFreak  [View Original Post]
    Unless I can fuck prostitutes I want, this place for me is not a good mongering destination anymore. I have same experiences as you had. Now I just ask girls specific questions before entering a bar. My question usually is " can I finish in your mouth" and "can we kiss with tongue?This means technically I will barfine and fuck you, ok? If she says no, I don't enter that bar.But this way doesn't work in Gogos because usually you need to order lady drink to "interview" with your favorite girl in gogos.Now I started to see too much turning down and girls attitudes are every day going to pit while prices are skyrocketing. This is really not normal for a p4 p scene. Simply this country is not mongering heaven for me anymore. Kenya, Caribbean and even Colombia seem to provide better bang for my bucks now. I didn't visit Philippines yet, I plan to see there and decide also.But I can easily say that thai prostitutes are the most stuck up prostitutes in the world.
    Well I am trying to 'live here' like I did back home. I didn't go out to the bars every day and can't see myself doing so here. But calling in a girl for some fun with that 1000 baht you saved from the bar is certainly worth every penny. Its the bars that are trying to rip you off, the price for the girls alone is pretty reasonable. I'm staying in Airbnb's in the low $200 range, hard to find those back home. With the money I save its easy to enjoy a girl every night.

  9. #33831
    Quote Originally Posted by KievFreak  [View Original Post]
    Unless I can fuck prostitutes I want, this place for me is not a good mongering destination anymore.

    I have same experiences as you had. Now I just ask girls specific questions before entering a bar. My question usually is " can I finish in your mouth" and "can we kiss with tongue?

    This means technically I will barfine and fuck you, ok? If she says no, I don't enter that bar.

    But this way doesn't work in Gogos because usually you need to order lady drink to "interview" with your favorite girl in gogos.

    Now I started to see too much turning down and girls attitudes are every day going to pit while prices are skyrocketing. This is really not normal for a p4 p scene. Simply this country is not mongering heaven for me anymore. Kenya, Caribbean and even Colombia seem to provide better bang for my bucks now. I didn't visit Philippines yet, I plan to see there and decide also.

    But I can easily say that thai prostitutes are the most stuck up prostitutes in the world.
    To each his own. My approach is a little more relaxed, since I am not pressed for time. I will buy drinks for a lady, and if there is a good vibe, I will barfine her, with a brief discussion about price. Most of the ladies are pretty good in bed. Maybe a handful are not so good, so I don't barfine them again. But almost every lady wants a repeat customer, and if they know I live in Pattaya, they aim to please.

    Where I run into trouble is during multi-day barfines. That's when a lady will act out as the third day approaches. I used to think it was something I did, but now I realize they miss their boyfriends after a day or so.

  10. #33830

    Unfortunate to hear that!

    Quote Originally Posted by KievFreak  [View Original Post]
    Unless I can fuck prostitutes I want, this place for me is not a good mongering destination anymore.

    I have same experiences as you had. Now I just ask girls specific questions before entering a bar. My question usually is " can I finish in your mouth" and "can we kiss with tongue?

    This means technically I will barfine and fuck you, ok? If she says no, I don't enter that bar.

    But this way doesn't work in Gogos because usually you need to order lady drink to "interview" with your favorite girl in gogos.

    Now I started to see too much turning down and girls attitudes are every day going to pit while prices are skyrocketing. This is really not normal for a p4 p scene. Simply this country is not mongering heaven for me anymore. Kenya, Caribbean and even Colombia seem to provide better bang for my bucks now. I didn't visit Philippines yet, I plan to see there and decide also..
    That's too bad. I visited 4 years ago and Bangkok in particular holds a lot of fond memories for me.

    Girls seemed down to earth and happy for what ever tips you gave them. And service was quite good.

  11. #33829
    Do the working girls agree to go with you to Jomtein area on the 10 baht tuktuk / bus?

  12. #33828
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Girls must be coming into town now, looking for the new wave of tourists that will (or won't) come. Lineups were looking good although not so good early in the afternoon. So anyone who knows me knows I have 'issues' with buying lady drinks and then being told 'no' in whichever way they want to save face. Most common is I am on my period, best answer to that is 'I don't care, we can fuck in the shower'. Hey I understand, I'm a big guy and these girls have a choice to go with who they want. But when your turned down over and over its best to save your money and ask them directly if they will fuck or not. No? Ok move on, next girl up. No I won't buy you a drink now. Happens so often I just ignore it anymore.
    Unless I can fuck prostitutes I want, this place for me is not a good mongering destination anymore.

    I have same experiences as you had. Now I just ask girls specific questions before entering a bar. My question usually is " can I finish in your mouth" and "can we kiss with tongue?

    This means technically I will barfine and fuck you, ok? If she says no, I don't enter that bar.

    But this way doesn't work in Gogos because usually you need to order lady drink to "interview" with your favorite girl in gogos.

    Now I started to see too much turning down and girls attitudes are every day going to pit while prices are skyrocketing. This is really not normal for a p4 p scene. Simply this country is not mongering heaven for me anymore. Kenya, Caribbean and even Colombia seem to provide better bang for my bucks now. I didn't visit Philippines yet, I plan to see there and decide also.

    But I can easily say that thai prostitutes are the most stuck up prostitutes in the world.

  13. #33827
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    You can't blame the manager, girl had just started working on soi 6 a few days ago and was completely new to the game. It was the Korean guy who must have been telling her to get 5 shots at a time so my guess is the manager explained to her that this customer will make it right that you lost you high paying customer without telling her 'only one drink'. Hey it was fixed right away and the manager came back over ten minutes later and bought me a drink.

    Now what's funny is I was having a discussion with another soi 6 manager and the topic came up on PinUp, the gogo on walking street. And I said the girls aren't dancing so they won't get many customers and he replied 'Asians will go into these gogo's'. He then said 'Soi 6 is for White foreigners, Gogo's are for Asians'. It was then I realized this was true, hadn't seen any high roller Asians in any of the soi 6 bars until I saw this Korean get up and walk out. Funny thing was he walked by the club two times seeing if the girl was free but the manager asking me to buy her another drink kept her at my side even longer. In no way am I bashing Asians with this post, just pointing out what I never really noticed until it was brought up to me. Heaven Above just reopened so now there are three 'gogos' open on walking street. The overall looks of soi 6 girls can't come close to the looks of the gogo girls, the high rollers want the hottest of the hot to be by their side.
    He is incorrect. Plenty of Asians have been at Soi 6. And plenty of white foreigners at GoGos including WS. What he thinks LK Metro is? He is trying to discourage you from spending elsewhere. Pull up Sapphire on Facebook and correct him.

  14. #33826
    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    So which Soi 6 bar was this? The "manager's" initial 5 shot move or do you think the girl acted on her own does not speak well of the bar. But you handled the situation right. Accept no BS.

    P.S. Great reporting. I am glad to hear you are enjoying Pattaya. Rock on!
    You can't blame the manager, girl had just started working on soi 6 a few days ago and was completely new to the game. It was the Korean guy who must have been telling her to get 5 shots at a time so my guess is the manager explained to her that this customer will make it right that you lost you high paying customer without telling her 'only one drink'. Hey it was fixed right away and the manager came back over ten minutes later and bought me a drink.

    Now what's funny is I was having a discussion with another soi 6 manager and the topic came up on PinUp, the gogo on walking street. And I said the girls aren't dancing so they won't get many customers and he replied 'Asians will go into these gogo's'. He then said 'Soi 6 is for White foreigners, Gogo's are for Asians'. It was then I realized this was true, hadn't seen any high roller Asians in any of the soi 6 bars until I saw this Korean get up and walk out. Funny thing was he walked by the club two times seeing if the girl was free but the manager asking me to buy her another drink kept her at my side even longer. In no way am I bashing Asians with this post, just pointing out what I never really noticed until it was brought up to me. Heaven Above just reopened so now there are three 'gogos' open on walking street. The overall looks of soi 6 girls can't come close to the looks of the gogo girls, the high rollers want the hottest of the hot to be by their side.

  15. #33825
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    So I'm in a soi 6 bar just drinking, not looking for fun because several have already turned me down. So I figure a change of scenery so walk into another bar and the manager comes over and says Hello,. Mind you I wasn't looking for sex, just a night of drinking and maybe a freelancer to end the night. He then says 'do you want a lady?' and points to one and she comes over, he says 'she just go to Pattaya'. She's cute, has that 'new blood' feel to her. Nice body, fresh face. So I ask 'you want to go upstairs and boom boom?' just to gauge her response was a weak 'yes' but then said 'drink'. That was good enough for me. Really wasn't looking looking still but she wasn't a drink guzzler and she was dancing face to face and was fun to be with so head upstairs. Had a fantastic romp, went for a good 40 minutes with multiple positions. Finished up and offered her a drink on the way out. Now here's where it gets interesting, seems there's been a Korean guy visiting her for 5 days straight and spending a boatload of money on her. His bill at the end of the night being over 15 k baht. Well he's sitting there when we get finished and when she sits with me he pays his bill and leaves. Some Koreans can't stand knowing a Thai girl had sex with a white foreigner, wonder if he'll be back to the bar and spend more money on her.

    Then it gets even stranger, the manager comes over and explains all of this. Customer leaving, she not being happy that she lost all of that money. Then says 'you buy her another drink'. Which I had planned anyway since she was so good..
    So which Soi 6 bar was this? The "manager's" initial 5 shot move or do you think the girl acted on her own does not speak well of the bar. But you handled the situation right. Accept no BS.

    P.S. Great reporting. I am glad to hear you are enjoying Pattaya. Rock on!

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