Medellin Reports

[Huacho]

Spanish in my opinion is a much harder language than English to learn, in Spanish you can have like four different words for the same thing versus one word in English.

And then you have the "subjunctive tense" which doesn't exist in English as far as I know.

So many rules / regulations on using Spanish as well.

So I really, really do not agree that Spanish is the harder language. There they're their. Rough doesn't rhyme rhyme with through and neither rhymes with bough. Tons of silent letters in English where in Spanish you only have one, and it's always silent (unless combined as ch-; 'ch' used to be a separate letter in Spanish, as did 'rr' but the authorities have decided that is no longer true). And then you have lead as in metal and lead as in follow. None of that in Spanish. You can show me a word in Spanish I've never seen before and I can pronounce it correctly. There's rules on what syllable is stressed, and they're quite clear and simple. I would say one thing that's harder about Spanish is the existence of the two past tenses, preterit and imperfect. There is just nothing like that in English. And I guess the masculine vs. Feminine thing. My neighbor is from Macedonia and he said Spanish was easier. My other neighbor said the same thing but she is a native speaker of French and acknowledged that helped.

Regarding the subjunctive in English, it definitely exists but its use is more limited. The most common use is for 'contrary to fact conditions' and that is why 'if I was you,' which you hear all the time, is flat out wrong It is impossible for you to be me, nor for me to be you. Therefore the subjunctive mood 'were' must be used. 'I would not do that if I were you. ' Another example of the subjunctive in English: 'It is necessary that he go to the store. ' Most native English speakers, though, would probably just say 'he needs to go to the store. ' The first sentence has a change of subject between the independent and dependent clauses and the second one does not, is the difference.

Somebody the other day asked me how I became completely fluent and how I could tell. Most people won't be able to do this but I spent six months without speaking any English at all. By then I was even dreaming in Spanish and that's how I knew. At the point I began that, I had Spanish I-IV at the community college (I later completed a bachelor's in Spanish), so I knew all the tenses but did not have a good grasp of the subjunctive (which is not a tense). The way I learned that was I first learned how to recognize it in speech (the terminal vowel changes, 'escriba' instead of 'escribe,' for example) when I heard it. Then, I asked myself why that person had used the subjunctive instead of the indicative. Same thing when I was reading the newspaper. I did that every day too and did not read in English any more than my job required.

I would say that becoming fluent in Spanish, which took me thirty years, was one of the two or three hardest things I have ever done. I have no inherent talent for languages at all.

[Surfer500]

Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.

So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless.

Besides being able to converse with women which takes everything to a totally different level as you have stated, those who can speak some Spanish, can also avoid and diffuse awkward situations which a lot of guys find themselves in when relying on a translator.

I consider myself an intermediate Spanish speaker, I get all the tenses wrong, have problems pronouncing words, and am screwed up on masculine / feminine usage, yet understand probably at least four times more than I can say. As an example, I know the meaning of lots of words, and cannot at times pronounce them correctly, or even remember them, yet when I hear the word being used, I know the meaning of it.

I studied formally at EAFIT for a while, and then had a private tutor for a few months everyday, and it was an eye opener to the language.

Spanish in my opinion is a much harder language than English to learn, in Spanish you can have like four different words for the same thing versus one word in English.

And then you have the "subjunctive tense" which doesn't exist in English as far as I know.

So many rules / regulations on using Spanish as well.

I'm sure you can further elaborate on all this.

Just my two cents on this topic.

[AtlNightmare]

And it gets down to 20 degrees at night so be sure to bring a big down jacket. But seriously, any country that uses pesos makes it more complicated for the newbie gringo, because the $ sign is also used for pesos and in fact originated that way. Gringos don't face that issue with euro, yen, sterling, etc. Because the symbols are different. Then there is the height and weight thing. If a chica says she is 1,70 and 60 that doesn't mean she is 5 feet tall and weighs 170 pounds. That would be kinda fat to say the least. She means is 1,7 meters tall (between 5'6" and 5'7") and weighs 60 kilograms or 132 pounds. So get a bit familiar with the money, the temperature system, the measurement schemes, and so forth before you go.

I appreciate that and will take all of that into account.

[AtlNightmare]

She wouldn't be asking for $5 taxi fare if she meant $250 usd.

Valid point sir thanks.

[Osteoknot]

The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging.

I don't think the default is automatically "bragging" but some need for self validation, without necessarily tacking on Super Ego. It's deep. It is part of the projection and self validation that is rampant on this Web site. Otherwise, pointless from where I sit, but hey, I don't think anyone else is getting harmed by it, so be it. Even when you find like-minded mongers, in theory you are creating more competition for yourself by using a rating system. Jajaja. Mongering is a group effort while being every man for himself at the same time. Yin and Yang.

[AtlNightmare]

I use a simple rating system which works spectacularly. First a point I think you were making. The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging. Beyond that use it serves almost no purpose.

My rating system is a nested boolean system. It starts with.

1. Do I want to fuck her? If the answer is yes:

2. Is she available for me to fuck? If yes:

3. Can we agree on a price?

That's it. I don't need to worry whether other people want to fuck her, or how much they would pay. It doesn't matter if someone would rate her a 9 and someone else would mark her as a 6. There's no crap about how well she'll perform, because I'll figure that out afterwards.

Occasionally, I'll modify that. I'll ask myself if something I know might want to fuck her. If I think the answer is yes, I'll send them her info.

That is spot on G. That is the real rating system don't give a damn what the next man think. My 8 is my 8 and nobody else's.

[Knowledge]

Ernest Hemingway wrote in English. Back to the subject at hand, what do all of you linguists talk about with girls, the latest reggaeton hits, the cost of their daily room rents in San Diego, how much you are willing to pay for a rato at that moment?

I cannot say for sure that the restaurants are playing on this or not but you might want to blame Ernest Hemingway (he had a second home in Cuba) for the restaurants calling themselves that, here is a quote from "The Old Man and the Sea" which was written in Cayo Blanco Cuba.

"he always thought of the sea as 'la Mar.' which is what people call her in Spanish when they love her. Sometimes those who love her say bad things of her but they are always said as though she were a woman. Some of the younger fishermen, those who used buoys as floats for their lines and had motorboats, bought when the shark livers had brought much money, spoke of her as 'el Mar' which is masculine. They spoke of her as a contestant or a place or even an enemy. But the old man always thought of her as feminine and as something that gave or withheld great favours, and if she did wild or wicked things it was because she could not help them. The moon affects her as it does a woman, he thought. "

[Osteoknot]

Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.

Money versus Spanish fluency for Medellin pussy access advantage.

My gut reaction was Spanish fluency wins by a margin.

Then my brain kicked in and said, "No, money. "

I don't know.

What I do know is that having both would be the ideal, jeje.

[Silver Turtle]

I was in Veracruz / Botero area last month. There were a few Israeli, Spaniard, French and American guys hanging around together. They were drinking with Venezuelan working girls in the middle of promenade with no shirts on for hours every day. They were disrespectful and argumentative to locals and cops, and some of them were arrested and thrown into jail a few times. Locals hated them a lot, and some bars and hotels prohibited the Spaniard and Israeli guys from entering their places. I saw that other gringos stayed away from them.

[Ricardo01]

Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.

Very true what you and Mr. Entertainment brought up. Learning Spanish has become a top priority for me.

[Huacho]

But if you think that you will not be as interesting to a chick as a native speaker would be then you are wrong.

Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.

[JjBee62]

Yes, your rating system might be different and include all that extra stuff but none of that matters to the rest of us because your not going to share her contact info unless you really know a monger on here, which I agree with seeing as what happened recently with Maria as an example. But the regular rating system based on strictly her looks is what matters to the rest of us. This board is literally full of guys bragging (I am not complaining keep the pics coming) or debating over various topics for the most part. So yah we all have to implore our own rating system when looking for chicas online through various sources because your system won't apply.

Just want to add this as I just randomly ran into it and it definitely explains all the rate changes and GPS attitude. Not that it matters as there is so much available but one should know when using seeking this is what you will encounter. Hopefully, she gets even more attention. In other words, seeking is not worth the price of admission for Colombia. If you already have it for other countries then it is a great extra source but Facebook is sufficient.

I use a simple rating system which works spectacularly. First a point I think you were making. The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging. Beyond that use it serves almost no purpose.

My rating system is a nested boolean system. It starts with.

1. Do I want to fuck her? If the answer is yes:

2. Is she available for me to fuck? If yes:

3. Can we agree on a price?

That's it. I don't need to worry whether other people want to fuck her, or how much they would pay. It doesn't matter if someone would rate her a 9 and someone else would mark her as a 6. There's no crap about how well she'll perform, because I'll figure that out afterwards.

Occasionally, I'll modify that. I'll ask myself if something I know might want to fuck her. If I think the answer is yes, I'll send them her info.

[Nounce]

Actually I googled in English 'el Mar. Vs la Mar.'

Now I hope no one takes this as a complaint about the autocorrecting software, which is truly awesome, but periods and commas go inside quotation marks. Semi-colons and colons go outside quotation marks. I write correctly.

Ah, I got that. I skipped the Spanish result.

[Mojo Bandit]

Lucky Nuts Your mailbox is Full.

[Osteoknot]

Medellin is a place that can make any man happy, you just have to know what you like

Cool. Very cool. I read every word.