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02-01-22 04:29 #50449
Posts: 324Currrent Covid / Thai Test and Go etc
The current restrictive Test and Go (and test again. WTF) entry requirements plus the risk of being sent to hospital quarantine are probably going to be scrapped in a couple of months if there are no major spikes in covid cases. Hopefully in 2 or 3 months they will both be gone.
Most expats here in Bangkok have decided that if they get covid that they will quietly isolate at home if the symptons are not too bad. Likewise if one has to go anywhere near a PCR test it is best to take a good ATK / Rapid test before hand. Would not be great to have to spend 14 days in Hospital Q.
One point on ATK or Rapid Tests. Many Thai pharmacies have a cheaper version, THB 75 or so. They are not very accurate. The more expensive tests that are around THB 200 from Boots or Watsons are much more reliable, not perfect but way better than the generic ultra cheap test.
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02-01-22 03:40 #50448
Posts: 1264Response to Post 50445
Yes, an excellent post. The government seems to be able to act with absolute impunity and a denial of your civil rights that would not be acceptable in a free democrátic society. It seems to be the more autocratic leaning a country is, the more they want to control peoples movements. Covid gives them an excuse to detain people, in this case in a hospitel or hospital. As Exhibit A, look at how China treats their citizens at the moment. This is why any testing numbers here are laughable. Anyone with an ounce of sense are not going to allow themselves to be tested and end up confined AGAINST their will.
I think any foreigner considering entering Thailand right now has not fully thought out the risks involved. The Thai government I think is essentially telling farangs that we don't want you here and if you do get in and test positive at any point, we are throwing you in the proverbial slammer. It would be one thing if it were effective in deterring Covid but they do almost nothing to control their borders allowing countless illegal immigrants in the country to work at near slavery levels.
Thanks for pointing out an actual story of what happens to people who test positive in a Thailand.
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01-31-22 23:58 #50447
Posts: 102I hear you!
Originally Posted by MaxBkk [View Original Post]
Thats how desperate and bored I am to get back to the hobby.
Johnie.
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01-31-22 18:30 #50446
Posts: 723Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes [View Original Post]
She has some form of health insurance which she thinks is the reason the hospital authorities kept her against her will in the hospital. But her insurance did not cover her full expenses and she is on the hook for the balance. So, I assure you she did not profit from her ordeal. In addition, she has 2 other girlfriends who I also have known quite well for many years and they too were forced to stay in Covid hospital ward for 14 days after testing positive after New Years and they too did not profit from their internment.
But the relevant point for all of us considering a visit back to LOS under the present draconian Covid measures in place is: do you want to take the risk of a 14 day forced Covid hospitalization if you should test positive to Covid at any time during your visit. Not me and not 99% of my monger pals. But I have nothing against any one who chooses to go at the present time. Enjoy your trip and stay well.
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01-31-22 04:44 #50445
Posts: 1103Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]
Thai girls who ended up in covid prisons, hospital or hospitels happened pretty much because they wanted it to.
Most hid out away from the authorities and isolated at home.
Those that made themselves known had stronger symptoms and they were looking for the government cash handouts that came with hospitalization.
There was a lot of money (baht) available there as support for them early on so they chased it, and many got it.
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01-31-22 04:36 #50444
Posts: 1103Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
Katoey, female sex change, even unchanged are fully legally recognized in Thailand.
And its not just an add on of recent times, the constitution even has three genders.
This was my earlier post today on this.
You are being way way way too narrow in your thinking.
Sexual identity statement is made at birth by a doctor based purely on "physical characterization" that can be seen, not on chromosome testing.
In many such cases genetically aligned women are "named" as males at birth.
Thailand is enlightened enough as a society to allow these to easily change their gender to align physically and mentally.
If they then have excellent gender realignment / correction surgery, which their is plenty of, then they are now female fully, and you will not be able to pick them.
And yes, many others use this approach too, some maybe only mentally female.
As to photos of the surgeries and results post it for the "woman" many you will be totally unable to pick.
And in all ways they are female in function.
Did you know now that the better surgeries can create a pussy that lubricates, and a clitoris that can orgasm?
Watch this. https://www.medicalvideos.com/video/...ow-it-Is-done?.
Read this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17413887/.
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01-31-22 04:33 #50443
Posts: 1103Transgender. Sexual identity change
Originally Posted by Tomasb [View Original Post]
Sexual identity statement is made at birth by a doctor based purely on "physical characterization" that can be seen, not on chromosome testing.
In many such cases genetically aligned women are "named" as males at birth.
Thailand is enlightened enough as a society to allow these to easily change their gender to align physically and mentally.
If they then have excellent gender realignment / correction surgery, which their is plenty of, then they are now female fully, and you will not be able to pick them.
And yes, many others use this approach too, some maybe only mentally female.
As to photos of the surgeries and results post it for the "woman" many you will be totally unable to pick.
And in all ways they are female in function.
Did you know now that the better surgeries can create a pussy that lubricates, and a clitoris that can orgasm?
Watch this. https://www.medicalvideos.com/video/...ow-it-Is-done?.
Read this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17413887/.
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01-30-22 17:39 #50442
Posts: 6342I absolutely agree with you. I could have worded my post much better. Just pointing out how society views them and any post op will tell you they are female. You know these days with the new terms like non binary, etc.
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01-30-22 17:27 #50441
Posts: 1264Post ops
I would argue they are not female. They had an operation to remove their sexual organs and used these parts to create an artificial opening. Genetically, they remain male no matter how many hormones or surgical procedures they have. If you have ever seen photos of the surgeries, it generally does not look like the real McCoy. However, I will grant you that in the end it does not matter if both parties enjoy themselves.
Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
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01-30-22 17:16 #50440
Posts: 6342Originally Posted by Tomasb [View Original Post]
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01-30-22 16:26 #50439
Posts: 723Originally Posted by MaxBkk [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Explorer8939 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Llantarnam [View Original Post]
If you want to visit Thailand with these conditions and mandates hanging over your head, knock yourself out. But every fellow punter that I know is staying away from LOS as long as this BS reigns. Most of us have been vaxed 3 x and we feel enough is enough already. Travel is supposed to be all about having a good time. I know I could not really relax and feel totally comfortable in Thailand with these draconian measures hanging over my head. But that is just the view of yours truly and like I said all my punter friends.
As to the politics of it, ask yourself this: have the Thai mandates and lockdowns really worked? I don't think so. Maybe at first they did when the country was in total lockdown, but I know a lot of Thai girls and they know a ton more girls that have caught Omicron in the last month and half even after being vaxed twice. They were sick a few days, but after testing positive they had to spend 14 days a prisoner in a Covid hospital ward. Meanwhile Brazil is open and it rocks! I have been to Brazil 2 x in 2021 and I will be returning for a 3rd visit in April. All you need to enter Brazil is proof of vaccination and negative Covid test before departure from your home country. All the bars, bordellos, and massage shops are open and everyone is having a great time.
The only good thing I can say about Covid is that it opened my eyes to the possibilities elsewhere and broke my Thai addiction of more that 20 years. It is a matter of personal taste which country has prettier girls, Thailand or Brazil, but one thing is beyond debate: Brazilian girls are way better in bed. That's a fact, Jack. 555 / KKK. So see you in LOS after all restrictions, mandates, and forced quarantines are permanently lifted and stay safe.
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01-30-22 15:32 #50438
Posts: 3396Originally Posted by Llantarnam [View Original Post]
Meanwhile, I will stay away as long as Thailand mandates use of inaccurate and ineffective measures such as looking at fake ATK tests at bars.
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01-30-22 14:30 #50437
Posts: 297Originally Posted by Explorer8939 [View Original Post]
Personally, I think this sort of proportional, targeted action to control the spread of the virus will encourage many more to visit Thailand than those it scares away. And for all those who are happy to be positive and untested, then I'd say Thailand doesn't need you either.
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01-29-22 16:27 #50436
Posts: 1264Current cost
I agree with the below poster. First, you generally are going to want to request a five day package hotel stay at beginning of your stay. It's better than moving somewhere for a few days and then moving back for the Day5 test, and exposing yourself to unnecessary exposure risks. These designated hotels vary quite a bit in price but I would stay at a better one for the food, ambience, and hopefully a nice pool. Then, of course, there is the Covid insurance, which will vary depending on the length of your stay. There is also the PCR testing x 2 but I think some of the hotels offer that testing as part of their package deal for the hotel. I would not include flight costs in your budget as one has to pay for that regardless though it can be argued that airfares are generally higher than in the past.
In the end, it is the hotels best interest for the Thai government to continue this draconian Covid policy as long as possible as they stand to benefit significantly from the added revenue. Of course, smaller non corporate owned hotels are usually not part of this program. For what's it's worth, hotel prices, even for five star, are much less than in years past so take advantage of that phenomena for as long as it lasts.
Originally Posted by XXL [View Original Post]
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01-29-22 16:15 #50435
Posts: 1264Lb?
I would say on average about 1/2 are LB's in front of Thermae and the adjoining streets. Just ask if in doubt. However, some are cleverly disguised as they are Post-op and may not be totally honest about their gender.
Originally Posted by Visal [View Original Post]