Bangkok Reports

[Explorer8939]

Yes, I think that a fair prognosis of when sanctions will be lifted, which will put us right at the start of low and very hot season April, May, more or less. Not much help to anyone, certainly not tourists who generally prefer coming in the cooler and dry months.

The volume of customers in Pattaya bars is very predictable. I told my harem during the summer that they would all forget me in High Season, which they did. When Songkran ends, and the customers leave town, the ladies will find my social media contacts again.

Anyway, my plan was to leave town during High Season. Mission accomplished.

[EihTooms]

And a mamasan at one of the bars told me the mandatory tests to enter are over for now. We'll see.

I buzzed by around 8:30 PM. At a mamasan's urging when she saw me and called me by name, I parked my bike and went onto Soi Cowboy to have a drink at one of the makeshift outdoor beer bars. "I haven't seen you here in a long time. I only see you at Nana! Good to see you here" she said to me.

A girl I have known for years stepped out of her group of friends and fellow bargirls, mostly lookers, and blocked my way in front of Kazy Kozy so I couldn't miss her. In my book she is still an easy solid 8 among Bangkok go-go bargirls even at the ripe old age of must be 24 by now. She seemed happy to see me and I was happy to see her.

I told her I would buy her a drink. She seemed thrilled, especially since there must have been 40-50 girls at various bars on the soi and maybe only a dozen or so customers including me. I ordered mine and she leaned in and said "coke and tequila". I asked her to repeat it to make sure I heard right. She did.

Well, I'll be damned, the old "coke and tequila" scam that Soi Cowboy is more famous for than any other bar area in the city. See, the girl assumes some rube tourist won't realize, notice or make a fuss over the fact that she just ordered 2 ladydrinks, not the one drink you offered or agreed to buy her. There is no "coke and tequila" cocktail. That is two ladydrinks. On this soi, that's about 400 baht right now. My club soda was 160 baht.

I probably should have just stood up and said bye right then and there. But for old time's sake with this girl I didn't. However, I did say, "No, honey. That's two drinks, not one. I'll buy you one now".

Then I waited for her to start entertaining me since I was the paying customer and she was the "entertainment. " But nothing of the kind happened. It was all on me. "How have you been? Good to see some of the bars re-opening. Last time I saw you was at blah blah blah," that sort of thing.

Maybe the fact that I did not allow her to pull a classic scam on what has always lived up to in my opinion the scammiest bar area in Bangkok, Soi Cowboy, put a damper on her mood. Oh well. She downed that coke damn fast and asked if I would buy her another drink. Uh no.

I cut it short, paid my bill, thanked her for her time and stood to leave. The mamasan said, "Why you go? She likes you!" I told her, "She tried to pull that old "coke and tequila" scam on me. You haven't seen me in a while? It's going to be a while longer before you or anybody else on this soi sees me here again. Take care".

I guess I have a low tolerance for bullshit these days. Sometimes I wonder why I ever bother to give Soi Cowboy another chance to prove to me it isn't the scammiest scam bar area in Bangkok if not all of Thailand. As far as I can recall, it had been about a year before Covid that I'd had a minimally acceptable barfine and sex experience with a Soi Cowboy bargirl that wasn't fraught with one scam attempt after another in the bar or in the room. I had put another Soi Cowboy girl from another bar out with only 200 baht just a few weeks ago for pulling some bullshit in the room.

Anyway, I then buzzed by an area further down on Sukhumvit where a perfectly ordinary girl-next-door type young lady I have seen a few times lately can often be found sitting with her family, watching the world go by. I stopped my bike, waved Hi, she quickly got up and walked over to hop on the back of my bike.

I would say she comes in at a 6.5 at best. I am sure many guys here would look at her pic and say "I'll pass. Where are the hot, sexy babes?" But they would be missing out on one of the sweetest, most gently accommodating, lovely young ladies of no more than about 22 years old they'd ever have. Fit young body, super smooth skin, sweet, almost a dreamgirl type face. And, most of all, nothing like a typical hooker or bargirl. And one of the finest, young, baby-free, snug, firm and wet pussies around.

Hey, not that she is homely at all. If she'd been my date at my 50 Year High School Reunion in the USA that was called off last year for Covid, she'd be an off-the-chart 10! Every old lady in the place would have wanted to kill her and then me. And, IMHO, every heterosexual man in the place including the young hotel staff would have been delighted to fuck her.

But in this environment, I'd say about a 6.5 at best.

I had a very rewarding, relaxed, no hurry Short Time in my apartment with her, I gave her 1,500 baht and she hugged me in thanks for it like it had been 15,000 baht. Her being a kinda' sorta' regular girl type of freelancer and not a bargirl, there was no barfine, no ladydrinks, no hassles and no regrets from me I assure you. Seriously, I had only skipped one day of fucking and finishing, only took one of my usual 100 MG Sidegras, yet my dick felt rock hard and aching to finish inside this little honey from the moment of insertion.

I've had plenty of sex with a couple of favorite repeats lately that I would consider high 7's or solid 8's among Bangkok hookers. However, the sweetness of this girl and having lovely real sex with her was a totally satisfying treat that had me ready to bust a nut as though I'd been celebate for a week.

[Tomasb]

Yes, I think that a fair prognosis of when sanctions will be lifted, which will put us right at the start of low and very hot season — April, May, more or less. Not much help to anyone, certainly not tourists who generally prefer coming in the cooler and dry months.

The current restrictive Test and Go (and test again. WTF) entry requirements plus the risk of being sent to hospital quarantine are probably going to be scrapped in a couple of months if there are no major spikes in covid cases. Hopefully in 2 or 3 months they will both be gone.

Most expats here in Bangkok have decided that if they get covid that they will quietly isolate at home if the symptons are not too bad. Likewise if one has to go anywhere near a PCR test it is best to take a good ATK / Rapid test before hand. Would not be great to have to spend 14 days in Hospital Q.

One point on ATK or Rapid Tests. Many Thai pharmacies have a cheaper version, THB 75 or so. They are not very accurate. The more expensive tests that are around THB 200 from Boots or Watsons are much more reliable, not perfect but way better than the generic ultra cheap test.

[LookingLooking]

150,000? That's $4,500 US! I had better be getting true Japanese Kobe beef, all you can eat bluefin tuna, and Foie Gras for that price!

That's actually not the real bill. That's the deposit. Usually the deposit amount covers more than the expected total bill. The balance would be refunded after discharge and settlement of the bill.

[Banana Boi]

We were given the option of going to a specific hotel for 14 days for 150,000 Thai baht which we declined.

150,000? That's $4,500 US! I had better be getting true Japanese Kobe beef, all you can eat bluefin tuna, and Foie Gras for that price!

[LookingLooking]

Max, I have to ask you a question. Do you personally know any expats living here who tested positive and had to quarantine in a hospital or field hospital or hotel? I ask because I do not know of any. Myself and one of my friends tested positive at Bumrungrad hospital (we knew we were positive but wanted to get early treatment to speed up the recovery process). Never of us were required to quarantine in the hospital or any other government required facility. We were allowed to quarantine in our condos The Thai health department was notified and they checked on us regularly by phone. They also notified our condos management teams with our positive status and instructions for taking care of us for 14 days. I. E. Delivering any take out food or other online purchases from the market directly to our rooms. We were given the option of going to a specific hotel for 14 days for 150,000 Thai baht which we declined.

Tourists on the other hand would probably have no options besides a hospital or a quarantine designated hotel. Thankfully they did treat us as expats a little differently by allowing us to stay in our seperate condos.

If you have a thai residence address, you are allowed to quarantine in your residence. Whether its owned or rented. Doesn't matter if Thai or foreigner.

Yes, tourists don't have this option.

[Houston Player]

The current restrictive Test and Go (and test again. WTF) entry requirements plus the risk of being sent to hospital quarantine are probably going to be scrapped in a couple of months if there are no major spikes in covid cases. Hopefully in 2 or 3 months they will both be gone.

Most expats here in Bangkok have decided that if they get covid that they will quietly isolate at home if the symptons are not too bad. Likewise if one has to go anywhere near a PCR test it is best to take a good ATK / Rapid test before hand. Would not be great to have to spend 14 days in Hospital Q.

One point on ATK or Rapid Tests. Many Thai pharmacies have a cheaper version, THB 75 or so. They are not very accurate. The more expensive tests that are around THB 200 from Boots or Watsons are much more reliable, not perfect but way better than the generic ultra cheap test.

Max, I have to ask you a question. Do you personally know any expats living here who tested positive and had to quarantine in a hospital or field hospital or hotel? I ask because I do not know of any. Myself and one of my friends tested positive at Bumrungrad hospital (we knew we were positive but wanted to get early treatment to speed up the recovery process). Never of us were required to quarantine in the hospital or any other government required facility. We were allowed to quarantine in our condos The Thai health department was notified and they checked on us regularly by phone. They also notified our condos management teams with our positive status and instructions for taking care of us for 14 days. I. E. Delivering any take out food or other online purchases from the market directly to our rooms. We were given the option of going to a specific hotel for 14 days for 150,000 Thai baht which we declined.

Tourists on the other hand would probably have no options besides a hospital or a quarantine designated hotel. Thankfully they did treat us as expats a little differently by allowing us to stay in our seperate condos.

[LookingLooking]

The current restrictive Test and Go (and test again. WTF) entry requirements plus the risk of being sent to hospital quarantine are probably going to be scrapped in a couple of months if there are no major spikes in covid cases. Hopefully in 2 or 3 months they will both be gone.

Most expats here in Bangkok have decided that if they get covid that they will quietly isolate at home if the symptons are not too bad. Likewise if one has to go anywhere near a PCR test it is best to take a good ATK / Rapid test before hand. Would not be great to have to spend 14 days in Hospital Q.

One point on ATK or Rapid Tests. Many Thai pharmacies have a cheaper version, THB 75 or so. They are not very accurate. The more expensive tests that are around THB 200 from Boots or Watsons are much more reliable, not perfect but way better than the generic ultra cheap test.

I have gotten covid and recovered in Thailand.

My own experience is that throughout the whole ordeal, I have never tested positive on ATK tests. But my PCR test was positive (same day I tested negative even on ATK) and I was down with mild symptoms (exactly like the symptoms they say about the new variant on news). After I recovered, I returned to my country and still got tested positive on PCR (you can still test positive after recovery from covid). Till then I still tested negative on ATK tests.

[Stykler]

Wow. So there is basically a $350 charge for the pleasure to come to Thailand.

Thailand is not going to build back it tourism base with these complicated and costly entry procedures.

For some people $350 is chump change, so they'll be back. The Covid economic recovery has to start somewhere so I give them points for trying (anything). There might be a need for us all to chill out a bit to move ahead I'm afraid.

[Member #4753]

The current restrictive Test and Go (and test again. WTF) entry requirements plus the risk of being sent to hospital quarantine are probably going to be scrapped in a couple of months if there are no major spikes in covid cases. Hopefully in 2 or 3 months they will both be gone.

Most expats here in Bangkok have decided that if they get covid that they will quietly isolate at home if the symptons are not too bad. Likewise if one has to go anywhere near a PCR test it is best to take a good ATK / Rapid test before hand. Would not be great to have to spend 14 days in Hospital Q.

One point on ATK or Rapid Tests. Many Thai pharmacies have a cheaper version, THB 75 or so. They are not very accurate. The more expensive tests that are around THB 200 from Boots or Watsons are much more reliable, not perfect but way better than the generic ultra cheap test.

[Tomasb]

Yes, an excellent post. The government seems to be able to act with absolute impunity and a denial of your civil rights that would not be acceptable in a free democrátic society. It seems to be the more autocratic leaning a country is, the more they want to control peoples movements. Covid gives them an excuse to detain people, in this case in a hospitel or hospital. As Exhibit A, look at how China treats their citizens at the moment. This is why any testing numbers here are laughable. Anyone with an ounce of sense are not going to allow themselves to be tested and end up confined AGAINST their will.

I think any foreigner considering entering Thailand right now has not fully thought out the risks involved. The Thai government I think is essentially telling farangs that we don't want you here and if you do get in and test positive at any point, we are throwing you in the proverbial slammer. It would be one thing if it were effective in deterring Covid but they do almost nothing to control their borders allowing countless illegal immigrants in the country to work at near slavery levels.

Thanks for pointing out an actual story of what happens to people who test positive in a Thailand.

[Johnie]

Wow. So there is basically a $350 charge for the pleasure to come to Thailand.

Thailand is not going to build back it tourism base with these complicated and costly entry procedures.

I am so desperate to go to a place with cheap pussy which does not attract too many questions from friends and family, that I just paid 15500 THB for the current Test & Go program. For that money I got a reasonable hotel on Soi 4, two PCR tests, transport from the airport and 5 nights with breakfast. With the air fare on top of that, now I just need to buy my insurance and apply for the entry pass. Wish me luck.

Thats how desperate and bored I am to get back to the hobby.

Johnie.

[Axel Heyst]

Hahaha.

Thai girls who ended up in covid prisons, hospital or hospitels happened pretty much because they wanted it to.

Most hid out away from the authorities and isolated at home.

Those that made themselves known had stronger symptoms and they were looking for the government cash handouts that came with hospitalization.

There was a lot of money (baht) available there as support for them early on so they chased it, and many got it.

It is likely that many girls did as you say and did not voluntarily get tested when they had flu like symptoms. But I speak specifically about some girls I know. For example my Mini, one of my favorite girls who I have known for over ten years. She came down with flu like symptoms' shortly after her return from visiting her family over New Years weekend. Because she was concerned about her health, she naïvely went and got tested. I warned her not to. She tested positive and the next thing she knew a van came to her apartment and picked her up. She was feeling much better by the 3rd day of her incarceration. Beginning on day 5 she begged the hospital to let her go back home. She cried at night. The girl she shared a room with was seriously ill. She had to wear a mask 24 hours a day except when eating. Lights were turned off at 9 pm. That is prison.

She has some form of health insurance which she thinks is the reason the hospital authorities kept her against her will in the hospital. But her insurance did not cover her full expenses and she is on the hook for the balance. So, I assure you she did not profit from her ordeal. In addition, she has 2 other girlfriends who I also have known quite well for many years and they too were forced to stay in Covid hospital ward for 14 days after testing positive after New Years and they too did not profit from their internment.

But the relevant point for all of us considering a visit back to LOS under the present draconian Covid measures in place is: do you want to take the risk of a 14 day forced Covid hospitalization if you should test positive to Covid at any time during your visit. Not me and not 99% of my monger pals. But I have nothing against any one who chooses to go at the present time. Enjoy your trip and stay well.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Hey Llantarnam,

If you want to visit Thailand with these conditions and mandates hanging over your head, knock yourself out. But every fellow punter that I know is staying away from LOS as long as this BS reigns. Most of us have been vaxed 3 x and we feel enough is enough already. Travel is supposed to be all about having a good time. I know I could not really relax and feel totally comfortable in Thailand with these draconian measures hanging over my head. But that is just the view of yours truly and like I said all my punter friends.

As to the politics of it, ask yourself this: have the Thai mandates and lockdowns really worked? I don't think so. Maybe at first they did when the country was in total lockdown, but I know a lot of Thai girls and they know a ton more girls that have caught Omicron in the last month and half even after being vaxed twice. They were sick a few days, but after testing positive they had to spend 14 days a prisoner in a Covid hospital ward. Meanwhile Brazil is open and it rocks! I have been to Brazil 2 x in 2021 and I will be returning for a 3rd visit in April. All you need to enter Brazil is proof of vaccination and negative Covid test before departure from your home country. All the bars, bordellos, and massage shops are open and everyone is having a great time..

Hahaha.

Thai girls who ended up in covid prisons, hospital or hospitels happened pretty much because they wanted it to.

Most hid out away from the authorities and isolated at home.

Those that made themselves known had stronger symptoms and they were looking for the government cash handouts that came with hospitalization.

There was a lot of money (baht) available there as support for them early on so they chased it, and many got it.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

I absolutely agree with you. I could have worded my post much better. Just pointing out how society views them and any post op will tell you they are female. You know these days with the new terms like non binary, etc.

Its way more complicated than that.

Katoey, female sex change, even unchanged are fully legally recognized in Thailand.

And its not just an add on of recent times, the constitution even has three genders.

This was my earlier post today on this.

You are being way way way too narrow in your thinking.

Sexual identity statement is made at birth by a doctor based purely on "physical characterization" that can be seen, not on chromosome testing.

In many such cases genetically aligned women are "named" as males at birth.

Thailand is enlightened enough as a society to allow these to easily change their gender to align physically and mentally.

If they then have excellent gender realignment / correction surgery, which their is plenty of, then they are now female fully, and you will not be able to pick them.

And yes, many others use this approach too, some maybe only mentally female.

As to photos of the surgeries and results post it for the "woman" many you will be totally unable to pick.

And in all ways they are female in function.

Did you know now that the better surgeries can create a pussy that lubricates, and a clitoris that can orgasm?

Watch this. https://www.medicalvideos.com/video/...ow-it-Is-done?.

Read this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17413887/.