Hong Kong Club Reports

[Captain Solo]

Amor,

I am surprised I have not read any news from local press about this murder. They usually like to do detailed reports on putas, mongers, sex, drugs, money, murder ect. They sell papers.

Don't worry. HK / Cascada have a large security system with lots of people and equipment, lots of high-res cameras everywhere, plus intels from the meseros, chicas and workers. They have a lot more info about and know more about guys in their club than you think, more than enough to help lead the hapless policias to make quick arrest.

[BlackThought]

HK needs to stop this from happening again. They should make a copy of ID's for short time rooms. This guy should be on video, I hope it is being investigated. Makes me think twice about spending money there after reading all this. Its also scary to think that we are in the club brushing shoulders with stone cold killers.

I did not know they didn't take copies of the ID when they book the rooms. I guess they only do it for people with VIP cards? I had to give them my VIP card + driver's license at the front desk during check-in.

They definitely should take copies of the ID, fucking scum bags that hurt women should be caught and punished accordingly. Two of my HK chicks quit working there after this recent murder.

[AmorPorFavor]

HK needs to stop this from happening again. They should make a copy of ID's for short time rooms. This guy should be on video, I hope it is being investigated. Makes me think twice about spending money there after reading all this. Its also scary to think that we are in the club brushing shoulders with stone cold killers.

[SpeedToys]

A popular place for an exchange is the San Ysidro trolley station. Two or three currency exchange places right next to Mc Donald's. My opinion is better to use US dollars because they are accepted all over Tijuana in all clubs without a problem. If you are unfamiliar with Mexican currency and coins in a dark club and after a few drinks the waiter can easily cheat you because you have to divide everything by 20 to know the US dollar value (pain in the neck.) Best to have a lot of US $ 1 bills for tips and for.... groping chicas in the club and US $ 5 bills because it's easy to pay for a beer in club and taxi, food etc.

Got to watch that. I've caught places taking dollars and "whoops" missing 5% of the conversion when the change comes.

HK is big for this "Give me change" and whoops. $1 missing in the "conversion" of $20 to Pesos at the wall posted rate.

[Patronshot12]

So I come here about once a month. I seem to always have a bad experience with the morning crew. Now I know it's my fault but I'm usually the type that just goes up to a girl and will get straight to the point. How much for upstairs and will head up. If she's hot and the price works. And most times it goes well. But not from this Saturday morning crew. They seem more desperate for money it was extremely dead. She started with "wash your hands" then "don't touch me there" and lastly that a covered BJ was not included. This girl named "Atta" from Sonora. Petite with decent face.

Anyway, it was awful. As soon as the money touched her hand, she started asking do I want anything extra? I was curious what that meant. Well, It meant her $100 price tag included the same service as a $20 dollar street girl. I was pissed as try to power through and fuck her but her fake pornstar screams made it impossible. I stopped after 15 minutes and told her to leave and that her attitude and sales tactics are shit. I've never complained to the managers because I don't know if it's worth my time. But am considering it if she'll be held accountable if she continues her same tactics.

[Jackie888]

Her mother knew where she worked and texting room # and time she expected to be there was standard for them. It was supposed to be for safety. I believe many girls do this, just probably not with their mothers. When she didn't text that she had left the room or was staying longer her mother messaged her. She never responded and then the messages stopped being delivered. Her mother panicked and went to the club around 12:30 am. Management kept her in a waiting room telling her that "the room was empty" "she must be back in the club". Her mother never left and pleaded with management to help and they just strung her along for 12 hours. And 12 hours after her mother had raised the alarm the ambulance and police pulled up. I share this because, we go to these places for the women. I fell in love with one. And she loved me back. She would not accept money from me, no matter how hard I tried to convince to take the help.

I believe they deserve our respect, but at a minimum, none of them should be treated as expendable. Men like us who love these places could probably stand to have some additional door knocks / security protocols in the name of protecting the women we go here for.

It will be difficult to prove murder. The mother should consider suing HK / Cascadas for Employer Negligence. You should pass it on.

The Catholic church did shit for decades. Until they got their ass kicked by civil suits. Welcome to American justice. Just saying.

[StRobert]

I have a question about changing money. Can someone recommend a good, reputable cambio? Or, if you take smaller bills (1, 5, 10) can you pay for everything from food to HK club that way?

And thanks to those that replied to my question. About a week ago about HK prices and SW prices. The Intel is appreciated.

A popular place for an exchange is the San Ysidro trolley station. Two or three currency exchange places right next to Mc Donald's. My opinion is better to use US dollars because they are accepted all over Tijuana in all clubs without a problem. If you are unfamiliar with Mexican currency and coins in a dark club and after a few drinks the waiter can easily cheat you because you have to divide everything by 20 to know the US dollar value (pain in the neck.) Best to have a lot of US $ 1 bills for tips and for.... groping chicas in the club and US $ 5 bills because it's easy to pay for a beer in club and taxi, food etc.

[BrotherMouzone]

Her mother knew where she worked and texting room # and time she expected to be there was standard for them. It was supposed to be for safety. I believe many girls do this, just probably not with their mothers. When she didn't text that she had left the room or was staying longer her mother messaged her. She never responded and then the messages stopped being delivered. Her mother panicked and went to the club around 12:30 am. Management kept her in a waiting room telling her that "the room was empty" "she must be back in the club". Her mother never left and pleaded with management to help and they just strung her along for 12 hours. And 12 hours after her mother had raised the alarm the ambulance and police pulled up. I share this because, we go to these places for the women. I fell in love with one. And she loved me back. She would not accept money from me, no matter how hard I tried to convince to take the help.

Wow, very sorry to hear all of this. If I was the mother I might've called the police a couple hours into that 12 hour wait though I suppose with the way things work in Mexico with the ability to bribe police and other first responders that may not have done much good anyway.

Can I ask you another question? A girl I know at HK forwarded me the following explanation of what happened, words that came directly from someone who knew the girl that was killed:

"Mi novia fue asesinada alli el lunes por la noche. En la habitacion 404. No la revisaron durante 15 horas. Estuve alli con su madre durante 13 horas rogandoles que abrieran la puerta why se negaron. Fue drogada, robada why dada por muerta. La administracion no hizo nada. Nos dijeron que revisaron la habitacion why que no habia nadie. Ella estaba alli muriendo. ".

Were you the one who wrote this? I assumed that when the person who wrote this referred to your friend as "mi novia" that it was probably just a close girlfriend of hers. But maybe these are your words? Also, does her last name begin with "Chis" or "de Chis"? (That is what another girl from Adelitas is telling me.).

What I can tell you is that the picture of the girl from Facebook was included, via text message, in the same explanation I received (in Spanish above) about the killing. So that is a rumor that is being spread around widely that the girl from Facebook is the girl who passed in room 404. Given that, it might be worth clarifying the real identity of the girl in 404. Both for her sake and for the sake of the other poor girl from Facebook who's apparently being incorrectly associated with this murder.

Also, are you certain it was a "murder" as opposed to an accidental OD that they're trying to cover up?

I believe they deserve our respect, but at a minimum, none of them should be treated as expendable.

Absolutely, this should go without saying. But obviously that's how they're treated in the clubs. This type of thing is nothing new from what I understand. Honestly makes me feel like I need to sit down and give some serious thought as to whether I should continue to give business to clubs like this that treat women this way. There's an argument to be made that, as customers, we're contributing to some of the ugly stuff going on here.

Take care and sorry again about your friend.

[Phordphan]

Reputable?

It's math, and they show you the rate.

Well, yes and no. It was a legit question and deserves more than a flippant remark.

OP. I've exchanged money for many years. Most cambios don't do the bill switch trick. I think one poster said he was cheated in that manner, but it's easy to avoid by simply stating the amount you wish to change when handing it to the clerk, and make sure you recount the money after you receive it.

Now as far as reputable, all cambios say "No Commission. " However, some sneak in a "Service Charge. " This is terribly dishonest and these places should be avoided. I can only think of three places, offhand, where I've encountered this. There are two cambios at the eastern terminus of San Ysidro Blvd. They're side by side. IIRC the one on the right sneaks in a service charge, the other does not. I usually change my money at the Baja Mex drive-through on San Ysidro Blvd. One time there was a huge line and I was in a hurry. I stopped at the little one opposite Baja Mex, the one that NEVER has anybody using it. I changed my money, hopped in the car, and was mentally calculating as I left. Something didn't add up so I checked the receipt and, sure enough, a service charge was there at the bottom. The third place I can recall is the one diagonally across Sanchez Taboada from Costco. Next to the Roma pharmacy. They, too, dinged me once with a service charge. So I no longer use them, either.

The service charge is not large, but it's the principle. I have never had a problem with any of the cambios near the trolley station at the border. Just look for the best rates.

[Lakers02]

In my 15 years visiting HK, I have not had one single good arriba with the girls who flirt / approach you. Conversely, some of the greatest, nastiest lays I've ever had (including civie one night stands in my personal life) have come from girls who were sitting by themselves at a table, looking dejected. The flirty girls are the ones who *need* to sell.

[ScatManDoo]

Use a regular bank ATM.

I use HSBC ATM on the main blvd (I use the one in Calimax).

I use it with my Schwab card. Schwab rebates ATM fees and gives you great rates.

ATMS offer you to give you requested number of pesos for a fixed number of dollars. Do not accept that. Hit no and get the exchange rate offered by your bank.

HSBC has an ATM in the Sorina grocery store on Revo (near 3rd) in a good secure feeling location next to the store's low-key pharmacy.

[Rambo1969]

I have a question about changing money. Can someone recommend a good, reputable cambio? Or, if you take smaller bills (1, 5, 10) can you pay for everything from food to HK club that way?

And thanks to those that replied to my question. About a week ago about HK prices and SW prices. The Intel is appreciated.

Use a regular bank ATM.

I use HSBC ATM on the main blvd (I use the one in Calimax).

I use it with my Schwab card. Schwab rebates ATM fees and gives you great rates.

ATMS offer you to give you requested number of pesos for a fixed number of dollars. Do not accept that. Hit no and get the exchange rate offered by your bank.

[KBToys]

Her mother knew where she worked and texting room # and time she expected to be there was standard for them. It was supposed to be for safety. I believe many girls do this, just probably not with their mothers. When she didn't text that she had left the room or was staying longer her mother messaged her. She never responded and then the messages stopped being delivered. Her mother panicked and went to the club around 12:30 am. Management kept her in a waiting room telling her that "the room was empty" "she must be back in the club". Her mother never left and pleaded with management to help and they just strung her along for 12 hours. And 12 hours after her mother had raised the alarm the ambulance and police pulled up. I share this because, we go to these places for the women. I fell in love with one. And she loved me back. She would not accept money from me, no matter how hard I tried to convince to take the help.

I believe they deserve our respect, but at a minimum, none of them should be treated as expendable. Men like us who love these places could probably stand to have some additional door knocks / security protocols in the name of protecting the women we go here for.

Sorry for your loss and may she Rest In Peace. You can possibly find out more about the group chat from the chicas at work. It is alarming how much the club protects their image, but then again, they need the clients to keep pouring money into machine and many of the workers are just a cog in the larger machine. I would imagine the cleanup guys would have found your friend as they are pretty prompt with making sure you know time is up. They were probably told to keep quiet or risk losing their jobs. Such a sad state of affairs and hope the club can make safer working conditions for the ladies as they wouldn't exist without them. Everyone makes money off their drinks, time, etc.

[KBToys]

Best exchange rates are on the USA side. Not much of a difference but 5%. Don't change any amount over $500 at any one place or they will ask for your ID and fill out a federal report. Happened to me. Would not give my money back until I handed over my ID. Lady asked me why I was changing $1000 and I told her I didn't like what conversion rate the dentist was using. Just about any place you go deals in dollars and the exchange is usually close to 20/1. However when I was in Cabo many places still post 15/1 which hasn't been the exchange rate in forever. Most places post so just look for a sign that says cambio. Peso was supposed to keep sinking but I think if oil goes north of $100 it should strengthen.

15 to 1 is horrible. USA Near San Ysidro border has best rates, but Tijuana has 20 to 1 near the Zona. It is displayed on the LED boards. If it displays 0's, then they are closed.

[WonderWhy]

Was a little sparce in the afternoon but was pretty full of pretty girls by 5:00. The last two times there I have met a new girl that had just started. Hopefully that means they will be coming in good numbers this spring.

They had a live band in Chevalas. Was pretty loud and traditional Mexican.

Was already spent from seeing a regular but met a nice new one. She asked why I was sitting alone and I said "no dinero". She laughed but did not leave as I thought she would. She sat down and I did buy her a drink. 190 pesos. We talked about her learning English and me Spanish and agreed to meet in the near future for dinner and lessons to each other.

Street girls are sett on 400 pesos minimum and everything is 600. Took a girl up who agreed to 500 and she was good. However afterward she tried to change it to 700. I know it is not much to us but the principle of the thing got me and I would not budge.

If anyone has questions I am also on the USA board.

My 2 c.