East China - Shanghai

[SamCan]

Sam! Good to see you on here, man.

The scene in SH is not the same. I cannot speak for J and M, but everything else is scarce, pricy, or it sucks. That said, I still feel lucky to be able to monger a little bit. The trickiest bit are incalls. As you can imagine, things are strict here in the era of Covid. Authorities know and care about our whereabouts way more than ever.

You able to monger at all where you are at?

Just what I can get away domestically. I don't imagine it's going to change much. If projects open up for me overseas, I. On my way!

[Midwestern]

Sam! Good to see you on here, man.

The scene in SH is not the same. I cannot speak for J and M, but everything else is scarce, pricy, or it sucks. That said, I still feel lucky to be able to monger a little bit. The trickiest bit are incalls. As you can imagine, things are strict here in the era of Covid. Authorities know and care about our whereabouts way more than ever.

You able to monger at all where you are at?

Hello all. Just stopping by to lurk. I haven't been to SH for quite a while. Interesting that the scene seems to still have some life in it.

I liked Steven. I met him for beers one night. We spoke often via text and message. The one time we met he seemed quite confident and concerned me enough to not see him face to face. I asked him if he felt safe. He believed he was lining the right pockets.

It's interesting that I did most of my China visits from 2009 to 2019. I still see the same names from back then. Baobab Cathy Maria. They have to be ancient! How's Beverly jones these days. ? Has she finally retired?

Good to see all the familiar screen names still active. Monger on for me!

Sam (wishes). He can in China.

Samcan.

[Sinofaguo]

Some liked him and his services, but some were annoyed by him because he may have single handedly raised the market prices. In addition, he did not allow negative reviews. I actually liked him, especially when I was a noob to the Shanghai scene. He and his assistant both got busted. I feel bad for the guy. If he got a one or two year sentence, then I might say that he should have known this was possible, but a 12 year sentence is crazy.

Not long afterwards, Rain and some of her gals got busted too, but jail sentence was much shorter for them.

I didn't like the fact he was making money on our back for info we were posting for free here, on the singapore forum and another forum.

I didn't like either some girls who were charging 700 and had been reported for free on boards suddenly charged 1 k then 1. 2 k on his website (the girls had to pay a commission so I don't blame them but I blame the pimp).

I didn't like the fact either he was deleting negative comments even when not exagerated because as he said "it was making the girls loose business".

That being said his service did help people whom were just passing by and didn't wan't to do their homework.

While I believe he was silly for posting his private info and such and for thinking being a pimp was ok in China, I never wished him to get caught and spend 12 years in jail. He has my full compassion for that regardless of the rest.

[Beijing4987]

Sam.

"Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'the never end" Check your PM box.

BJ.

[SamCan]

Some liked him and his services, but some were annoyed by him because he may have single handedly raised the market prices. In addition, he did not allow negative reviews. I actually liked him, especially when I was a noob to the Shanghai scene. He and his assistant both got busted. I feel bad for the guy. If he got a one or two year sentence, then I might say that he should have known this was possible, but a 12 year sentence is crazy.

Not long afterwards, Rain and some of her gals got busted too, but jail sentence was much shorter for them.

Hello all. Just stopping by to lurk. I haven't been to SH for quite a while. Interesting that the scene seems to still have some life in it.

I liked Steven. I met him for beers one night. We spoke often via text and message. The one time we met he seemed quite confident and concerned me enough to not see him face to face. I asked him if he felt safe. He believed he was lining the right pockets.

It's interesting that I did most of my China visits from 2009 to 2019. I still see the same names from back then. Baobab Cathy Maria. They have to be ancient! How's Beverly jones these days. ? Has she finally retired?

Good to see all the familiar screen names still active. Monger on for me!

Sam (wishes). He can in China.

Samcan.

[Midwestern]

Is Steven is the guy who ran Shanghai nightlife kinda website? If I am right he is German I guess who put July's and other KTV things and charged a few for some other nightlife scenes?

Some liked him and his services, but some were annoyed by him because he may have single handedly raised the market prices. In addition, he did not allow negative reviews. I actually liked him, especially when I was a noob to the Shanghai scene. He and his assistant both got busted. I feel bad for the guy. If he got a one or two year sentence, then I might say that he should have known this was possible, but a 12 year sentence is crazy.

Not long afterwards, Rain and some of her gals got busted too, but jail sentence was much shorter for them.

[Ace Gallant]

I have to say your answers do not match with my personal experience as a white foreigner in SH over the last two or three months. The non-veggie MP scene is alive and well in SH (for the time being at least), and I have not been poorly treated in any of the places I've visited.

Fine then, Do anything you want but don't get caught, stay safe and take care!

Enjoy!

AG.

[Rodneey]

That's good to know. Could you share some of your places?

Look further upthread and you'll see that I and others have already shared some places, maybe you could try some of those.

[BonMonger]

Thanks for thee update. 12 years is a long time in the hole.

It seems there's Steve's all over the ISG country threads, guys who start out as regular mongers trading insights, then leverage their knowledge into some form of pimping. The Peruvian and Costa Rican "Steve's" are also now doing hard time in prison. Dangerous way to make a living, but these guys develop a false sense of confidence and cockiness the longer they don't get caught. Steve's a great guy who felt he was providing a service that helped both mongers and WG's.

Steve's sad tale is also a great reminder to never reveal real name, phone, email, FB, etc to a WG, site like ISG or dating agency. Fake emails, burner SIMs, etc.

Is Steven is the guy who ran Shanghai nightlife kinda website? If I am right he is German I guess who put July's and other KTV things and charged a few for some other nightlife scenes?

[Mgp23]

I have to say your answers do not match with my personal experience as a white foreigner in SH over the last two or three months. The non-veggie MP scene is alive and well in SH (for the time being at least), and I have not been poorly treated in any of the places I've visited.

That's good to know. Could you share some of your places?

[Rodneey]

The answer to you is:

NO! : There are no longer any working place!

YES!: I am saying you should not go to China.

YES!: China do not welcome Foreigners going there for fun anymore!

No!: I am Not kidding!

Yes!: Go some where else.

Yes!: This is the real AG who went missing years ago!

No!: I am not trying to scare you.

I have to say your answers do not match with my personal experience as a white foreigner in SH over the last two or three months. The non-veggie MP scene is alive and well in SH (for the time being at least), and I have not been poorly treated in any of the places I've visited.

[Mgp23]

The answer to you is:

NO! : There are no longer any working place!

YES!: I am saying you should not go to China.

YES!: China do not welcome Foreigners going there for fun anymore!

No!: I am Not kidding!

Yes!: Go some where else.

Yes!: This is the real AG who went missing years ago!

No!: I am not trying to scare you.

Enjoy!

AG.

I am in Shanghai currently, just wanted to have an update on things.

Actually I just came from a reconnaissance tour around some old places that I knew and to my surprise many are still there (at least 3 or 4) and I can garantee they didn't turn veggie.

[Ace Gallant]

I haven't been to Shanghai in a long time and I noticed the forum doesn't have any good information about MPs lately. Is there any place working normally?

The answer to you is:

NO! : There are no longer any working place!

YES!: I am saying you should not go to China.

YES!: China do not welcome Foreigners going there for fun anymore!

No!: I am Not kidding!

Yes!: Go some where else.

Yes!: This is the real AG who went missing years ago!

No!: I am not trying to scare you.

Enjoy!

AG.

[Mgp23]

I haven't been to Shanghai in a long time and I noticed the forum doesn't have any good information about MPs lately. Is there any place working normally?

[The Guy]

Steven is still in jail in Shanghai, currently doing his 5th year of his 12 year sentence. I will generally check in from time to time, how he is doing. Although since the COVID virus started, personal visits are no longer allowed in Qingpu prison. So only from hearsay right now, he is still okay (as far as you can say for someone locked up in a Chinese prison).

Thanks for thee update. 12 years is a long time in the hole.

It seems there's Steve's all over the ISG country threads, guys who start out as regular mongers trading insights, then leverage their knowledge into some form of pimping. The Peruvian and Costa Rican "Steve's" are also now doing hard time in prison. Dangerous way to make a living, but these guys develop a false sense of confidence and cockiness the longer they don't get caught. Steve's a great guy who felt he was providing a service that helped both mongers and WG's.

Steve's sad tale is also a great reminder to never reveal real name, phone, email, FB, etc to a WG, site like ISG or dating agency. Fake emails, burner SIMs, etc.