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  1. #6728

    What?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinimoses  [View Original Post]
    Trump kept purtin in check as well as China. But no. The silliness of thinking that Biden isn't partially to blame for what is happen is stupid. He is a weak leader. And continues to show that he has no idea on what's going. His advisors are bad. Then again. Trump wasn't perfect. Most of the times he came off as an ass with a big ego. But he got shit done and was able to project strength. All Biden projects is wokeness and weakness.
    What shit did Trump get done?

    And I don't mean the historically bad economic results, the total waste of $2.5+ Trillion on his one godawful passed legislation, the subsequent two Bear Market Crashes within 18 months, his disastrous decisions that led directly to net job losses in the millions, hundreds of thousands of American deaths, the collapse of global supply chains and the inevitable inflation that followed.

    I'm talking about "good" shit he got done.

    Or was that what you meant?

  2. #6727

    The Putin / Trump Plan Was For USA To Be Out Of NATO By Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    The only one groveling to Putin is Biden. He did it under Obama and he did it from day one of his presidency. Everyone who voted for Biden showed their support for Putin. Now Biden weakness gave Putin the power to do whatever. Everyone who voted for Biden needs to take responsibility for Ukraine deaths.
    Biden's role in this is that he and the millions more patriotic Americans who voted for him over Comrade Trump pose the unplanned for hurdle preventing Putin's "January 6 Event With Tanks" from overthrowing democracy anywhere he pleases.

    Had Trump's 4 year long effort to keep his failed golf resorts afloat while improving his golf scorecard cheating skills at USA taxpayers' hundreds of millions of dollars expense, dismantle the Western Alliance and exit NATO produced the desired results on the latter two a bit better, the USA and the rest of the Free World would be waking up to a very different challenge today.

    Thankfully, Weak On Democracy But Strong On Authoritarian Dictatorship Comrade Trump was a lousy salesman.

    Desperate Putin would have been making this move by now anyway. But the reason his last two speeches have been a twitchy, nervous, embarrassing carnival of Trumpian incoherence and lunacy is because he was supposed to be overthrowing democracy and installing his authoritarian regime in Ukraine after Trump's "perfect phone call" scheme resulted in the USA denying Ukraine military funds due to Zelensky failing to produce bogus dirt on Biden and while Trump was cheering him on from inside the White House. The current resistance level conditions were not in the plan.

    Instead, he's stuck with doing it against an insurmountable greater unified NATO whose membership is now bound to increase and strengthen, the exact opposite of his and his Puppet's intentions, and while Trump can only cheer him on from Kremlin West FUX News Channel.

  3. #6726

    This is what happen when you have a weak leader in the west.

    Trump kept purtin in check as well as China. But no. The silliness of thinking that Biden isn't partially to blame for what is happen is stupid. He is a weak leader. And continues to show that he has no idea on what's going. His advisors are bad. Then again. Trump wasn't perfect. Most of the times he came off as an ass with a big ego. But he got shit done and was able to project strength. All Biden projects is wokeness and weakness.

  4. #6725

    Yep

    Just thought I would pop my head in here to confirm that there are people in here blaming Biden (probably Obama too) for Putin's decision to launch an all out attack against a peaceful, democratic country. Yep!

  5. #6724
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    You won't. It's not like crackpots need a rhyme or reason to attack someone. They don't. Just like Putin didn't need a reason to attack Ukraine..
    Putin "didn't need a reason to attack Ukraine"? Hello? NATO (I. E. USA) arms and pushes Ukraine for seven years now while Ukraine ignores Minsk Agreement, while Putin shows patient restraint. This is going to be difficult for you, but try imagining Russia arming a US adversarial State bordering America. Oh wait, you don't even have to imagine: can you say Cuban Missile Crisis?

    Watching Russia's Security Council Meeting for several hours live a few mornings ago, with Putin presiding, the Russian position was made all-too-clear. In a staging where each member stating his view clearly and articulately (in translation), the Russian position was presented. With what would happen so incredible obvious to even the densest mind advising Senile POTUS, it can only be concluded that the advisors making the decisions for Senile POTUS wanted war -- repeat -- Wanted War. While the US Cabinet did not broadcast their meeting live, we can easily visualize what that theatre would have been like: a dozen of them, one after the other rubbing their hands together, lying out of both sides of their mouths, while barely able to contain smirks thinking about the number of Slavs they'll get killed, on either side, it doesn't matter. This brings us to why the people behind Senile Potus want this proxy confrontation with Russia. More on that soon.

  6. #6723

    Well then

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

    "Biden is weak"?

    I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

    I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

    I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

    Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

    And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.
    I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

    Well as you know I've been there a few times, ask people about sanctions there and they laugh WTF are sanctions.

    https://www.newsmax.com/murdock/disc...24/id/1058363/

    But there's this.

  7. #6722

    Well then

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Uh. You mean inflation "destroys democracies" that didn't or don't have a Federal Reserve Board in place with the all-important dual mandate to keep inflation under control (raise or lower Fed Funds Rates as necessary) without jeopardising jobs.

    The USA Federal Reserve Board today with its Trump-appointed Chairman does not see enough reason to raise the rate in order to reverse the trajectory of inflation just yet. As Carter's Fed Chairman did by March 1980, almost a year before Reagan took office.

    Biden's economy is roaring along, more, better and higher-paying jobs are being created at record speed everywhere and American families are still flush with more cash in their pockets after all expenses and taxes are paid and adjusted for today's inflation than they had at the peak of Trump's utterly mediocre and way, way too expensive pre-Trump's Pandemic "economy" in 2019.
    Your attempts at sophistry are quite unimpressive young man.

    https://www.newsmax.com/ronpaul/cryp...23/id/1058103/

  8. #6721

    Just 'cause

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?
    You won't. It's not like crackpots need a rhyme or reason to attack someone. They don't. Just like Putin didn't need a reason to attack Ukraine.

    Crackpots don't hate Biden because he did or didn't do something wrong.

    Crackpots hate Biden just because.

  9. #6720

    Our enemy did start a war

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Our enemies didn't need to start wars to thrash our economy and kill Americans while Trump was in charge. He did a better job of that than any USA enemy ever could.

    And they knew it.
    Our enemy did start a war with the help from Biden. Biden is totally to blame for the deaths in Ukraine. The people who voted for him also have to know they helped Russia kill innocent people.

  10. #6719

    Yes you are right

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    So, what would Cheeto-Tweeto have done? Threaten to nuke Moscow? Actually nuke Moscow? Threaten to send in troops? Actually send in troops. Convince Putin not to release the Russian-hooker-pee-tape?

    What you wingers don't understand is that Putin has wanted Ukraine for a long time. Since 1991, in fact. And, yes, I know that Putin didn't become the head Red until 2012. But somehow wingers forget that Cheeto-Tweeto campaigned in 2016 about getting the US out of NATO. He campaigned in 2020 that he would do that if re-elected.

    So why would Putin need to do anything. He'd help Cheeto-Tweeto (again) get elected in 2020 and wait for him to pull the US out of NATO. Then he could just walk right in to Ukraine without firing a shot.

    But Biden threw a monkey-wrench into the works by getting elected. Rather than having an ally in the White House (see recent reports of Cheeto-Tweeto praising Putin) Putin had an enemy. Biden had Putin backed into a corner. Putin wanted Ukraine but now it is going to cost him something.
    Yes you are right about one thing. Putin wanted Ukraine and that's why he invaded when Obama was president. He didn't get everything he wanted because Trump got elected and so he had to wait 4 years for a weak president to come in so he can finish the job. This never would have happened if Trump was president or if we had a strong democrat president.

  11. #6718

    It is Up to Uncle Joe

    OK, let's get something straight right from the get go: Putin is the bad guy, the war criminal. Nobody but Putin is responsible for invading a peaceful, sovereign, democratic country and killing its citizens. He is following Hitler's playbook to the letter. Hitler justified the invasion Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia with the purported suffering of the ethnic Germans living in the region. I am getting deja vu all over again.

    Now that said, the question must be asked: on who's watch did this travesty take place? Answer, Brandon. And who the fuck enabled this attacked by ending American's oil independence, cutting the Keystone Pipeline and all the regulatory BS on oil, natural gas ect thus allowing the Russians to become the predominant supplier of natural gas to Germany and Western Europe? A deal that brought in billions for the oligarchs and made Western Europe energy dependent on Putin's Russia. Answer, Brandon.

    So what is Brandon going to do to rectify the situation he created and make sure that Putin pays a huge price for this aggression which just might deter the power hungry asshole from totally raping the Ukraine? The answer: More Sanctions! You have to be kidding me. Putin has already calculated the cost of sanctions to himself and his oligarchs and he don't care. The gain in oil price alone makes this a win win for him.

    But what should President I like Vanilla Ice Cream every afternoon before I take a nap really do to bring Putin down and stop him cold in his tracks? It is simple. Reopen the American energy industry! The USA has a huge supply of oil and natural gas. More than any other region in the world. Biden could open that supply source up and offer it to the Germans and Europeans as an alternative, independent source of cheap, clean, American natural gas. Biden could say fuhgeddaboud the Russians. Fuck Putin!

    As Jason Furman, a Harvard economist and former advisor to President Barack Obama, once said, "Russia's economy is "incredibly unimportant in the global economy except for oil and gas. It's basically a big gas station. " So, if the West stopped buying from Putin the Russian economy would crash and his tanks would rot in the Ukraine. But sadly, Putin thinks Biden is a weak fool who can be played. Putin would not have dared invade the Ukraine or any other country under Trump. So, what are the odds that Uncle Joe will open up the American Gas spigot and cream Putin?

  12. #6717
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

    "Biden is weak"?

    I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

    I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

    I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

    Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

    And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.
    Didn't you just see Biden last press conference. Sanctions should have been put on Russia weeks ago to deter them. Biden did nothing and Russia invaded Ukraine. Biden and congress put sanctions on to late and now Biden says let's wait a month and see what happens. Basically do nothing like Obama did last time. Biden is a joke to society and the Putin and the world are laughing at him.

  13. #6716

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

    "Biden is weak"?

    I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

    I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

    I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

    Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

    And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.
    Agreed on all counts. I find it pathetic that the same people who are now denouncing Biden as "weak" are the same people that kissed that orange buffoon's a** while he suckled at Putin's tits for four years. These are the same Republican senators and congressmen who conducted a "fact-finding" trip to Moscow over the July 4th holiday. Oh. And let's not forget the orange idiot's most recent statements kissing Putin's a** about Ukraine. Yet, despite these verifiable facts, Biden is weak? Come on. [Deleted by Admin]

    What exactly should Biden have done to prevent Russia from invading a sovereign country with whom we have no treaty obligations to defend? You want American troops sent to Kyiv? Should we have disbanded NATO, as Trump would have done in a second term.

  14. #6715

    Conflating again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    You are wrong again and in fantasyland. Reason we are importing 844,000 barrels a day and giving Russia $80 million dollars a day is because Keystone pipeline was cancelled by Biden. We can go to Canada and get 844,000 barrels a day because we have no way of transporting it. Are we going fly it to the refinery? We can't get it from Mexico because Mexico doesn't have heavy crude. Right now Biden and USA are dependent on Russia for this. Don't blame Trump. He approved the pipeline and we would be getting Canadian oil today if Trump was president. There would not be a war in Ukraine if Trump was president as was proven in his 4 years in office. You and everyone that voted for Biden can take credit for the death toll in Ukraine. Guilty people always try to blame someone else. You if you are guilty keep blaming Trump.
    So, did Biden cancel the Keystone pipeline? Or did he cancel the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Because when you say Biden cancelled the Keystone pipeline, you are wrong. As usual. The Keystone pipeline is operational. https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...ts-2021-01-22/.

    What Biden cancelled was the Keystone XL pipeline. And although like to pin lots of blame on Biden, the fact is that the pipeline was 8% complete when he cancelled it. Now I realize that all fascists are construction jeniuses (just like they are all epidemiologists and election experts) but there is absolutely no way that a pipeline project that was 8% complete when it was cancelled 1 year ago would have had any impact on either the price of oil from Canada or the price of borscht in Moscow. https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2LA2SQ.

    Your "we would be getting Canadian oil today if Trump was president" comment is a fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline.

  15. #6714

    Excellent Point

    Quote Originally Posted by GDreams  [View Original Post]
    Well the Democrats are pushing ahead to promote the adoption of electric vehicles against staunch opposition by Republicans. Just imagine Russia and Saudi, Iran, Venezuela, and all the other tin pot dictatorships fighting for relevance if just vehicles were electric powered. Imagine all the money to be saved not having to control these recalcitrant with bloated militaries. Oh but who would Trump need to grovel to if Putin and the Saudi king were no longer in power.
    Electric vehicles are great. I have an electric motorbike that I use to zip all around Bangkok and I have no need to go to a gas station or to even know how much gas costs around here.

    As usual, the Dems have the right idea for America and are trying to improve the economy, create good new jobs and strengthen our National Security while the Repubs are only thinking about making the corporate welfare subsidized oil industry executives wealthier and our adversaries more powerful.

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