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02-25-22 01:28 #6728
Posts: 5564What?
Originally Posted by Trinimoses [View Original Post]
And I don't mean the historically bad economic results, the total waste of $2.5+ Trillion on his one godawful passed legislation, the subsequent two Bear Market Crashes within 18 months, his disastrous decisions that led directly to net job losses in the millions, hundreds of thousands of American deaths, the collapse of global supply chains and the inevitable inflation that followed.
I'm talking about "good" shit he got done.
Or was that what you meant?
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02-25-22 01:09 #6727
Posts: 5564The Putin / Trump Plan Was For USA To Be Out Of NATO By Now
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
Had Trump's 4 year long effort to keep his failed golf resorts afloat while improving his golf scorecard cheating skills at USA taxpayers' hundreds of millions of dollars expense, dismantle the Western Alliance and exit NATO produced the desired results on the latter two a bit better, the USA and the rest of the Free World would be waking up to a very different challenge today.
Thankfully, Weak On Democracy But Strong On Authoritarian Dictatorship Comrade Trump was a lousy salesman.
Desperate Putin would have been making this move by now anyway. But the reason his last two speeches have been a twitchy, nervous, embarrassing carnival of Trumpian incoherence and lunacy is because he was supposed to be overthrowing democracy and installing his authoritarian regime in Ukraine after Trump's "perfect phone call" scheme resulted in the USA denying Ukraine military funds due to Zelensky failing to produce bogus dirt on Biden and while Trump was cheering him on from inside the White House. The current resistance level conditions were not in the plan.
Instead, he's stuck with doing it against an insurmountable greater unified NATO whose membership is now bound to increase and strengthen, the exact opposite of his and his Puppet's intentions, and while Trump can only cheer him on from Kremlin West FUX News Channel.
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02-24-22 23:54 #6726
Posts: 12This is what happen when you have a weak leader in the west.
Trump kept purtin in check as well as China. But no. The silliness of thinking that Biden isn't partially to blame for what is happen is stupid. He is a weak leader. And continues to show that he has no idea on what's going. His advisors are bad. Then again. Trump wasn't perfect. Most of the times he came off as an ass with a big ego. But he got shit done and was able to project strength. All Biden projects is wokeness and weakness.
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02-24-22 21:57 #6725
Posts: 6472Yep
Just thought I would pop my head in here to confirm that there are people in here blaming Biden (probably Obama too) for Putin's decision to launch an all out attack against a peaceful, democratic country. Yep!
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02-24-22 21:22 #6724
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Watching Russia's Security Council Meeting for several hours live a few mornings ago, with Putin presiding, the Russian position was made all-too-clear. In a staging where each member stating his view clearly and articulately (in translation), the Russian position was presented. With what would happen so incredible obvious to even the densest mind advising Senile POTUS, it can only be concluded that the advisors making the decisions for Senile POTUS wanted war -- repeat -- Wanted War. While the US Cabinet did not broadcast their meeting live, we can easily visualize what that theatre would have been like: a dozen of them, one after the other rubbing their hands together, lying out of both sides of their mouths, while barely able to contain smirks thinking about the number of Slavs they'll get killed, on either side, it doesn't matter. This brings us to why the people behind Senile Potus want this proxy confrontation with Russia. More on that soon.
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02-24-22 20:45 #6723
Posts: 2581Well then
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Well as you know I've been there a few times, ask people about sanctions there and they laugh WTF are sanctions.
https://www.newsmax.com/murdock/disc...24/id/1058363/
But there's this.
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02-24-22 20:41 #6722
Posts: 2581Well then
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
https://www.newsmax.com/ronpaul/cryp...23/id/1058103/
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02-24-22 20:23 #6721
Posts: 2008Just 'cause
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Crackpots don't hate Biden because he did or didn't do something wrong.
Crackpots hate Biden just because.
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02-24-22 20:18 #6720
Posts: 428Our enemy did start a war
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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02-24-22 20:16 #6719
Posts: 428Yes you are right
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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02-24-22 20:13 #6718
Posts: 729It is Up to Uncle Joe
OK, let's get something straight right from the get go: Putin is the bad guy, the war criminal. Nobody but Putin is responsible for invading a peaceful, sovereign, democratic country and killing its citizens. He is following Hitler's playbook to the letter. Hitler justified the invasion Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia with the purported suffering of the ethnic Germans living in the region. I am getting deja vu all over again.
Now that said, the question must be asked: on who's watch did this travesty take place? Answer, Brandon. And who the fuck enabled this attacked by ending American's oil independence, cutting the Keystone Pipeline and all the regulatory BS on oil, natural gas ect thus allowing the Russians to become the predominant supplier of natural gas to Germany and Western Europe? A deal that brought in billions for the oligarchs and made Western Europe energy dependent on Putin's Russia. Answer, Brandon.
So what is Brandon going to do to rectify the situation he created and make sure that Putin pays a huge price for this aggression which just might deter the power hungry asshole from totally raping the Ukraine? The answer: More Sanctions! You have to be kidding me. Putin has already calculated the cost of sanctions to himself and his oligarchs and he don't care. The gain in oil price alone makes this a win win for him.
But what should President I like Vanilla Ice Cream every afternoon before I take a nap really do to bring Putin down and stop him cold in his tracks? It is simple. Reopen the American energy industry! The USA has a huge supply of oil and natural gas. More than any other region in the world. Biden could open that supply source up and offer it to the Germans and Europeans as an alternative, independent source of cheap, clean, American natural gas. Biden could say fuhgeddaboud the Russians. Fuck Putin!
As Jason Furman, a Harvard economist and former advisor to President Barack Obama, once said, "Russia's economy is "incredibly unimportant in the global economy except for oil and gas. It's basically a big gas station. " So, if the West stopped buying from Putin the Russian economy would crash and his tanks would rot in the Ukraine. But sadly, Putin thinks Biden is a weak fool who can be played. Putin would not have dared invade the Ukraine or any other country under Trump. So, what are the odds that Uncle Joe will open up the American Gas spigot and cream Putin?
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02-24-22 20:13 #6717
Posts: 428Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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02-24-22 19:46 #6716
Posts: 46Agreed
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
What exactly should Biden have done to prevent Russia from invading a sovereign country with whom we have no treaty obligations to defend? You want American troops sent to Kyiv? Should we have disbanded NATO, as Trump would have done in a second term.
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02-24-22 18:15 #6715
Posts: 1604Conflating again?
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
Because when you say Biden cancelled the Keystone pipeline, you are wrong. As usual. The Keystone pipeline is operational. https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...ts-2021-01-22/.
What Biden cancelled was the Keystone XL pipeline. And although like to pin lots of blame on Biden, the fact is that the pipeline was 8% complete when he cancelled it. Now I realize that all fascists are construction jeniuses (just like they are all epidemiologists and election experts) but there is absolutely no way that a pipeline project that was 8% complete when it was cancelled 1 year ago would have had any impact on either the price of oil from Canada or the price of borscht in Moscow. https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2LA2SQ.
Your "we would be getting Canadian oil today if Trump was president" comment is a fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline.
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02-24-22 17:44 #6714
Posts: 5564Excellent Point
Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
As usual, the Dems have the right idea for America and are trying to improve the economy, create good new jobs and strengthen our National Security while the Repubs are only thinking about making the corporate welfare subsidized oil industry executives wealthier and our adversaries more powerful.