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03-13-22 02:15 #22176
Posts: 320Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
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03-12-22 21:04 #22175
Posts: 516Consider the Principle of Least Regret
Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
So, which would you regret more? Leaving Kyiv and missing out on whatever you perceive the possible benefits to be of staying? Or staying and possibly (probably, IMO) finding yourself in worsening conditions and likely unable to leave.
Only you can decide but, after all you've already experienced, if you decide to stay you'll assume full ownership of any negative consequences that may befall you or those in your group.
Relocating to Poland would appear to be the safest and most prudent option, as it's a NATO member and not likely to be under threat unless there's a major escalation. Lviv would be the compromise choice but you'd need to evaluate the pros and cons of remaining in what is still technically a war zone. Yes, Lviv is currently safer than Kyiv, but that doesn't preclude a missile or bomb strike if Putin decides to flex his muscles and wants to intimidate NATO without directly striking a NATO country.
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03-12-22 18:39 #22174
Posts: 682Pics?
Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
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03-12-22 14:07 #22173
Posts: 43Still in Kyiv, will possibly move to Poland
We are deciding whether to stay or move to Poland for a bit. At least to Lviv and then the border. What a terrible trip and idea to come.
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03-12-22 05:55 #22172
Posts: 1680Media conspiracy?
Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 23:35 #22171
Posts: 135If there would be that kind of a poll, I'd vote HulaHoops for the Person of the Year ISG-award.
Posthumous or not.
Hopefully you get a chance to get out of there. Contacting your embassies is a good idea. If even one of them have contacts to help you, maybe everyone can use the same way out.
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03-04-22 23:28 #22170
Posts: 1264Corridor
I have seen some military analysis that suggests this corridor is being proposed only to get rid the citizens who might be part of active resistance fighters. Russia does not have a good track record in allowing citizens to safely pass thru a war zone.
Originally Posted by Sorbonne [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 22:52 #22169
Posts: 558Originally Posted by MojoBandit [View Original Post]
There are also some experts who are pessimistic about this. After all who can still believe what Russia promises?
Russia initially said they would not target civilians. Now a humanitarian corridor? Makes zero sense.
If this happens, that is for Russia to be able to raze the city to rubbles.
So my advise, if anything, is: be careful in what you believe under this unfortunate circumstance.
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03-04-22 22:16 #22168
Posts: 2825Originally Posted by Rocko20 [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 22:01 #22167
Posts: 351Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 10:00 #22166
Posts: 1264Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ar-putin-news/
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/top-wrap-10-ukraine-seeks-ceasefire-humanitarian-corridors-talks-with-russia-2022-03-03/
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/no-breakthrough-in-russia-ukraine-talks-but-agreement-on-humanitarian-corridors-1.10651124
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03-04-22 06:39 #22165
Posts: 43Alive but not safe
I didn't mean to offend anyone.
As I've said before, when we came we didn't expect Putin to invade. We just assumed he was talking nonsense. Now of course that he invaded, I am the first to admit we made a terrible decision. If my reports, help others that are stuck in the country or who may have even considered coming here then at least I helped one person.
I am sure there are many people who read this thread but don't reply that had the same idea as us and may even still be in the country.
To any foreign volunteer: do not believe the Ukrainian propaganda! The military situation in Ukraine is dire, the media will have you think that Ukraine is winning. That is not the case whatsoever! Please be careful.
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03-04-22 04:40 #22164
Posts: 1264Sean Penn
I read that Sean Penn had been in Kiev for a while and it was reported he interviewed Pres Zelensky in his bunker. I believe he left Kiev for Lviv and decided to go west to the Polish border from there, which is 55 miles away. Some place between Lviv and the border his car broke down so he could very well had a very long trek to cross the border. Nevertheless, he should be in Poland now or somewhere else in the vicinity. I am sure his documentary will be something to see.
On another note, it's remarkable to me that Wanker, the erstwhile mongerer who with his buddies are still in Kiev, and more remarkable he still persists in discussing mongering, or in his current situation, the lack thereof.
Originally Posted by MojoBandit [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 02:18 #22163
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by LuckyNuts [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 01:17 #22162
Posts: 625Refugee Crisis. How you can help
Guys here are a couple very legitimate organizations taking donations and helping with the largest refugee crisis since World War II. Most guys on this website wouldn't even miss $50 or $100 and you can probably imagine how much help that can provide in eastern europe.
https://www.rescue.org/topic/ukraine-crisis
https://www.icrc.org/en/donate/ukraine