Bangkok Reports

[Chimpo Chinn]

Great report! But for the record, what is now Rainbow 5 used to be Twister (differentiated from Twister BKK, which is downstairs). Twister sold their second floor bar to the Rainbow group and opened a bar on Soi 7. Rainbow 4 is still there, where it always was on the second floor (next to Rainbow 5), but it isn't open yet. I've seen work going on there, so it might possibly open sometime.

Makes absolutely absolute no sense. Rainbow 5 should just sell and go away. Never popular at all.

Rainbow 4 and 2 should merge. One juggernaut instead of 2 mediocre bars.

[Sunlover2]

I'll give it a couple more tries before I write it off. There are basically 2 risk factors when we're hobbying.

1. Looks.

2. Service / performance.

Personally I weight attitude twice as important to looks, so a 7 looks 10 attitude grades as (7+10+10)/3 = 9 overall, where a 10 looks 7 attitude grades as (10+7+7)/3 = 8 overall.

Escort terms: https://skipthegames.com/articles/ab...-abbreviations.

LAS:

Looks / Attitude / Service: A subjective ranking system where each criteria is separately ranked, from lowest (1) to highest (10). Examples: 2/9/8 = Unattractive, but very friendly and good sex. 10/5/4 = Model material, but a poor attitude, and mediocre sex.

LASER:

Same as above + Expense and (would or wouldn't) Repeat.

SL.

[YetAnotherGuy]

What used to be Rainbow 4 is now Rainbow 5. You can't miss it with all the red and white lighting outside. There were some pretty Hello, girls and when I was shown inside I was pleased to see 10 girls spread across the two L-shaped stages, albeit sat on stools rather than shuffling around chrome poles. Ordinarily the girls wear skimpy bikinis but now they have to cover up, so wore French maid outfits instead.

Great report! But for the record, what is now Rainbow 5 used to be Twister (differentiated from Twister BKK, which is downstairs). Twister sold their second floor bar to the Rainbow group and opened a bar on Soi 7. Rainbow 4 is still there, where it always was on the second floor (next to Rainbow 5), but it isn't open yet. I've seen work going on there, so it might possibly open sometime.

[RacShack]

So which telegram and Line groups would you recommend?

I have been looking at fiwfans and I got some good advice from Monkeypaw about how best to tackle that site, but I'm curious to look at the telegram and Line groups.

Monkeypaw?

One of the higher ranked trusted members on that site and here as well.

https://fiwfans.com/profile/406raef9hkul4gdts

[EihTooms]

I'll give it a couple more tries before I write it off. There are basically 2 risk factors when we're hobbying.

1. Looks.

2. Service / performance.

At least with gogo bars, massage parlors, soapy massage, and Thermae you eliminate (for the most part, some could hide fat and scars under the clothes). Then the only risk factor is performance.

Lots of people seem to vouch for FiwFans. So I'll try it a couple more times, with more due diligence next time. I really don't get the warped scales, though. Even from some of the most active reviewers. Why does everyone rate them 10/10? Does your review not get added if you add a lower score? Do you get BL for a more realistic score?

For example, Mini's https://fiwfans.com/sideline/406raeo3ikxw1xsza looks (cover) were probably a 6, with approx age around 35. But she's got 3 reviews saying how amazing her looks are and looks to be in her early 20's. Some people have said you have to read between the lines. But why put up reviews where they have to be cryptic at best, completely false at worst?

I notice the one reviewer who only gave her a 9/10 rating on all three criteria instead of 10/10 on two or more apparently docked her points for "no singing".

Clearly, the customers for those sites are looking for a different kind of service than I am. Hehe.

[SinfullyKorean]

Such things, you should expect hits and misses. Even in other countries.

There always risk to it. But I would say the price is good for you to try a few times.

Yes the bars diverted some talents there after they reopened.

Be adventurous and it'll reward you.

I'll give it a couple more tries before I write it off. There are basically 2 risk factors when we're hobbying.

1. Looks.

2. Service / performance.

At least with gogo bars, massage parlors, soapy massage, and Thermae you eliminate (for the most part, some could hide fat and scars under the clothes). Then the only risk factor is performance.

Lots of people seem to vouch for FiwFans. So I'll try it a couple more times, with more due diligence next time. I really don't get the warped scales, though. Even from some of the most active reviewers. Why does everyone rate them 10/10? Does your review not get added if you add a lower score? Do you get BL for a more realistic score?

For example, Mini's https://fiwfans.com/sideline/406raeo3ikxw1xsza looks (cover) were probably a 6, with approx age around 35. But she's got 3 reviews saying how amazing her looks are and looks to be in her early 20's. Some people have said you have to read between the lines. But why put up reviews where they have to be cryptic at best, completely false at worst?

[Goatscrot]

I agree 100%. I've ended a long term relationship recently and only started to explore Fiwfans, sidelines and similar online options in December. From my limited experience and chitchat with the girls (no more than 20), I would say there are three types of online girls.

- A professional that used to be an FL or a bargirl but due to Covid works online.

- A full-time girl for the local market.

- Part-time girls (students, office workers) earning some extra money.

With the first type, you are basically getting the same as a bar without bar / LD overhead but without "hunting" excitement if you like it. The second type (to talk with them, you need some basic Thai) are more "Thai" beautiful. Whiter, thinner, younger, but more cock-scared / starfish. The third type was a pleasant surprise to me. Some real gems with almost genuine GF experience and exemplary skillset / stamina. Most of them are willing to repeat at my place, saving the encumbrance of commuting to their hotels. One of the indications of type three girls (in their online profiles) is that they do not work for through agencies (3619;3633;3610;3591;3634;3609;3648;3629;3591; / get the job yourself) and have their face hidden.

There are also quite a few that worked overseas and returned to Thailand due to Covid.

[LookingLooking]

FiwFans was a complete dud. I chose Mini based on pics and reviews (I think she had 2-3). Looks were a 6 at most. There were some resemblances to her pics, but pics looked about 15 years younger. I left and hung out at lollipop the rest of the night. Nana seems to be getting better and better talents (appearance wise).

Such things, you should expect hits and misses. Even in other countries.

There always risk to it. But I would say the price is good for you to try a few times.

Yes the bars diverted some talents there after they reopened.

Be adventurous and it'll reward you.

[Pita123]

So which telegram and Line groups would you recommend?

I have been looking at fiwfans and I got some good advice from Monkeypaw about how best to tackle that site, but I'm curious to look at the telegram and Line groups.

Monkeypaw?

[DBrick]

Fiwfans and local online P4 P is amazing if you're willing to put in the time. Just going to the website is not enough, you have to join the telegram groups, learn how to read between the lines on the reviews, and carefully select the provider. You can't just open up the website look for something visually appealing scan a couple of reviews and book.

I can certainly see why tourists and short-term residents don't want to put in the time. But if you're interested in lighter skinned, baby free, nice looking gals as opposed to the mommies you find in the bar scene then it is well worth the time. I will also add that the majority of the online girls are much more pleasant to be around. I also understand that some guys like sitting and drinking with gals, but most long-term residents have no desire to do that.

I agree 100%. I've ended a long term relationship recently and only started to explore Fiwfans, sidelines and similar online options in December. From my limited experience and chitchat with the girls (no more than 20), I would say there are three types of online girls.

- A professional that used to be an FL or a bargirl but due to Covid works online.

- A full-time girl for the local market.

- Part-time girls (students, office workers) earning some extra money.

With the first type, you are basically getting the same as a bar without bar / LD overhead but without "hunting" excitement if you like it. The second type (to talk with them, you need some basic Thai) are more "Thai" beautiful. Whiter, thinner, younger, but more cock-scared / starfish. The third type was a pleasant surprise to me. Some real gems with almost genuine GF experience and exemplary skillset / stamina. Most of them are willing to repeat at my place, saving the encumbrance of commuting to their hotels. One of the indications of type three girls (in their online profiles) is that they do not work for through agencies (3619;3633;3610;3591;3634;3609;3648;3629;3591; / get the job yourself) and have their face hidden.

[Member #4753]

I was distraught though to discover it doesn't have a kettle as I enjoy my morning coffee and have developed quite a taste for noodles.............. I presume Annie's has relocated to somewhere else as it enjoyed a reputation as one of Bangkok's best massage parlours.

You can buy a cheap kettle at Big see Supercenter, BTS to Chit Lom and head to Ratchadamri Rd. Around 300 Baht, throw it away when you leave.

Annies was my all time favourite place in Bangkok, I visited it for probably 20 years, alas it was closed permanently. Apparently busted from illegally putting a well into the water table to decrease its water bill. Every second massage place does this so who knows what the real reason was. They own Chrome bar on Soi 7/1 and moved all the girls there when it shut but it has never been the same since.

Thanks for the reports, we all appreciate the time and effort you put into sharing.

[Sir Lancelot]

This diary continues on from the Pattaya pages, where I spent a very enjoyable week.

I checked out of my hotel LK Metropole at 9 pm and intended to take a bus to Bangkok but changed my mind last minute and took a taxi. It cost 1500 baht to take me in to the city centre and drop me off in Nana (90 minutes) but if you wanted to go the airport from Pattaya it costs 1200 baht and the journey takes about an hour and ten minutes.

As always I chose to stay at Nana Hotel. It's a decent enough hotel but its main selling point is its literally across the road from Nana Plaza, one of the best adult playgrounds in Asia.

My room cost 1300 and is on the 9th floor. The bell-boy placed my luggage down and then said in a hushed tone 'you wan massage sir?' You don't really need help finding girls in Bangkok.

The room has a nice big hard double bed, safe, cable TV and basic bathroom, as well as a decent view of the surrounding skyscrapers. I was distraught though to discover it doesn't have a kettle as I enjoy my morning coffee and have developed quite a taste for noodles.

I unpacked and went for a quick wander down soi 4 to get my bearings. It's seven years since I've been here and things have changed. Nana Plaza has a roof and is painted yellow (Banana Plaza?) and the 7 Eleven on the corner of the road leading to Annie's isn't there either. I presume Annie's has relocated to somewhere else as it enjoyed a reputation as one of Bangkok's best massage parlours.

It was about 6 pm and there were plenty of freelancers dotted along soi 4, some of whom were good looking. Promising. I ate a tasty Thai omelette containing spicy pork mince at Bus-Stop and then walked the short distance to my destination for the night.

Nana Plaza is one of my favourite places in SE Asia. It's three storeys of gogo bars and I've taken some absolute stunners from there in the past. I knew the gogo bars wouldn't be open as gogo bars but I was keen to see if there were many pretty girls.

First thing first, you do not need to get tested to enter. There is a desk with security outside and they just require you have a quick temperature check and sanitize your hands.

Quite a lot of the gogo bars on the ground floor were open, with lots of girls sat outside. The beer-bars in the middle seemed to be where you go for a quiet beer without ladydrink pressure. Several bars on the 2nd floor were open too but none on the third. A covers band were playing 'Sweet Home Alabama' in the corner.

So where would I start? There was only one place, Rainbow 5 on the second floor. On previous visits this was the number one bar and I've bar-fined some incredible girls. To get there I took the elevator up on the right and was sad to see Mandarin closed, one of Nana's hidden gems on previous trips.

What used to be Rainbow 4 is now Rainbow 5. You can't miss it with all the red and white lighting outside. There were some pretty Hello, girls and when I was shown inside I was pleased to see 10 girls spread across the two L-shaped stages, albeit sat on stools rather than shuffling around chrome poles. Ordinarily the girls wear skimpy bikinis but now they have to cover up, so wore French maid outfits instead.

One of the reasons I love gogo bars is that you can grab a stool, admire the girls and invite one down for a drink. This was a similar setup. Infinitely more preferable to what I experienced in Pattaya, where there is nothing going on onstage and the waitresses pounce on you for lady-drinks.

There were several strong contenders but I invited a pretty fair-haired girl down. She was sat on a stool next to a friend and was chatting away, sharing jokes, showing off a dazzling smile. She had a great figure and was good company too. She was 23, from Chiang Mai and she told me it was only her fifth day at the bar. My Chang cost 120 baht and her tequila was 195.

It was too early to bar-fine but I enquired about prices anyway. The bar-fine was 600 baht and she quoted an eye-watering 3000 baht for one hour. Long-time was 5,000. Not cheap!

I got hit with a foam whip as I walked past the aptly named Spankeys and settled on a bar on the ground floor for my second drink. It was called Twisters and I ended up offering to buy a drink for a cute girl, who once again ordered tequila (195 b). She downed it quickly and as if by magic a waitress appeared and asked 'one more lady-drink, sir?' Annoying.

The girl and I didn't click but I enquired about prices anyway. The bar-fine was 600 and again she charged 3000 short-time. At least that was for two hours, unlike the girl from Rainbow!

I moved on to Erotica and bought a drink for a lovely girl called Moon. She was good fun and a definite bar-fine candidate. The bar-fine at Erotica is 700 b and Moon once again quoted 3000 for short-time. Of course prices can be negotiated down. I didn't see any girls leaving any of the bars with a customer, so I reckon 2000 would be achievable for short-time.

I decided to abort mission in Nana Plaza as the prices are crazy.

Early evening I'd been quite impressed with the quality of freelancers on soi 4 but by 10 pm there were mainly older girls or ladyboys.

So I decided to head to soi 7, a short walk away, across Sukhumvit. I didn't have high expectations as I believed it would be a revamped Biergarten, which I visited a long while back and was full of seasoned pros. But I was wrong. It was a lively beer bar complex that must have had 30 bars. There were lots of pretty girls, many of whom could easily work in any of the gogo bars. I was hugely impressed.

I saw a beautiful young girl sat on a school and immediately offered her a drink. She was 20 years old and cuteness personified, with braces on her teeth. She spoke basic English but it didn't matter as a rock band playing next to the bar made conversation impossible. She smiled sweetly to me each time I looked at her. I'll name her G for the purpose of this diary.

The bar-fine was 600 and with the help of the mamasan she quoted 2000 short-time and 3000 long-time. I offered 1500 short-time and dangled the carrot of a 500 tip if she made me smile. It's a cheesy line but it always works and usually guarantees an enthusiastic performance.

She agreed and I settled my bill. The mamasan cheekily added a tequila to my bill for herself, which I spotted and made her deduct.

As I stood up to leave a girl approached me and said 'why you go?' Then she saw G come to my side and her face lit up and she gave her a big hug. The girl told me she was G's cousin and it was only G's second day working in a bar and I was her first customer.

G seemed a little nervous back in the room so I let things go at her pace. I let her choose something to watch on TV and she chose a Thai talent show. We must have watched it for an hour before we showered.

The sex was outstanding. Exactly what I look for when I bar-fine a girl. We softly kissed under the duvet and she gradually built in confidence and kissed me more passionately. We must have kissed for half an hour until gradually it became more physical. Her pussy was extremely tight but it was a fantastic feeling, slowly sliding in and out of her as we kissed. She rode me to a climax and we fell asleep arm in arm.

What a special girl to start my time in Bangkok.

[Goatscrot]

FiwFans was a complete dud. I chose Mini based on pics and reviews (I think she had 2-3). Looks were a 6 at most. There were some resemblances to her pics, but pics looked about 15 years younger. I left and hung out at lollipop the rest of the night. Nana seems to be getting better and better talents (appearance wise).

Fiwfans and local online P4 P is amazing if you're willing to put in the time. Just going to the website is not enough, you have to join the telegram groups, learn how to read between the lines on the reviews, and carefully select the provider. You can't just open up the website look for something visually appealing scan a couple of reviews and book.

I can certainly see why tourists and short-term residents don't want to put in the time. But if you're interested in lighter skinned, baby free, nice looking gals as opposed to the mommies you find in the bar scene then it is well worth the time. I will also add that the majority of the online girls are much more pleasant to be around. I also understand that some guys like sitting and drinking with gals, but most long-term residents have no desire to do that.

[SinfullyKorean]

Yes, anything under a 10 is meh.

FiwFans was a complete dud. I chose Mini based on pics and reviews (I think she had 2-3). Looks were a 6 at most. There were some resemblances to her pics, but pics looked about 15 years younger. I left and hung out at lollipop the rest of the night. Nana seems to be getting better and better talents (appearance wise).

[Goatscrot]

About to see a FiwFans girl. I think I have this correct, but some of googles translations leave phrases to our best imagination. Can someone help me validate these assumptions?

1. On the cover. Means looks.

2. Bed story. Means sex performance / service?

3. Value. Service worth the cost?

One. Ore question is, why are there so many 10 out of 10's? Is that to be understood as just the average score and anything under 10 is just meh?

Yes, anything under a 10 is meh.