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  1. #50646
    Quote Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean  [View Original Post]
    It makes sense. That's why I feel like LDs help. While I'm drinking with them, I can get a feel for what their attitude will be like. Of course, that can all change after the barfine. But having indications (ex. If she just keeps asking for lady drinks over and over again) can help weed out the bad attitude ladies. It can also make the less attractive ladies (looks = 7) more attractive due to their attitude.
    Yeah I would rank attitude as the top factor for me when I'm looking to take a girl back.

    There are those who want LDs as soon as they finished 1.

    And there are those who wouldn't mind sitting with you for an hour with just 1 LD.

    Had experienced a 9/10 who rejected anything other than deadfish straight sex with minimum contact.

    To.

    A 4/10,20 yr old who offered to go LT with me for 2.5 k. When she was in my room she told me I could do anything to her, treat her as a sex slave and all she wants was to make me feel good and happy. I could also keep her with me up to 24 h. But I let her go after lunch the next afternoon. She wasn't really experienced in this, even though she was very willing.

    I would prefer to take the 2nd one any day, even if both cost the same.

  2. #50645
    Days and nights are kind of blurring together. Some nights, I'm just out on a date because I want the company of a beautiful lady while eating at some of the famous sky lounges in BKK. While fucking is my main objective, I also want to experience some of the other things BKK has to offer.

    Recon

    Even when I don't have plans to take a lady for ST or LT, I like to scan the area at night to get an idea of what the talent pool looks like and what the going rates are. Soi Cowboy seems to get things started earlier now due to the 11 PM curfew for businesses. I heard some stay open even later, but haven't verified. Kazy Kozy and Crazy House both have 2nd floors that seem to have more action. Crazy House was pretty cool where upon entering the first floor, you can look up the glass floor to the 2nd floor where the ladies are dancing. Completely nude. So you're looking directly up into their snatch, which is an amazing invitation to come up to the second floor. Crazy House's entrance is located around the corner of Kazy Kozy off soi 23.

    I was actually just doing a drive by on my way to a legit massage shop https://www.rueansabai.com/ which has been my go to after long walks around town. 150 B for 1 HR foot or Thai massage. It's also a nice scenic route where you pass Soi Cowboy and a few happy ending shops. One in particular (Golden Satang) seems to be a good option. They have 2 young, cute girls who are asking for 2 k for FS. I offered 1 k plus massage fee (500 B), but they wouldn't budge so I've passed by them at least 4 times in the past week.

    Once again, I passed by them and went to a couple shops down (I think it was MoNa-1) with some sexy MILFs. There was one lady I caught the name of the night before, Oi. So looking for a legit massage (300 B), I asked for Oi. She seemed happy and recognized me. She saw how hot and sweaty I was and offered me a shower. Back in the massage room, her massage was very lacking and I had to ask for a swap. Another semi attractive MILF came in and gave me a very nice massage. On the turn, she asked if I wanted anything special and I told her not today (already had plans to barfine a chick from Lollipop). I asked her how much extras would be and she said 500 for HJ, 1500 for BJ, which makes the 2 k offer at Golden Satang seem more reasonable. After the massage, I split a 100 B tip, 60 for my lady and 40 for the lady that tried in the beginning. Then went to Ruean Sabai for an HR foot massage, not really worth writing any details other than the 200 B price which includes tip.

    LT girl from Lollipop

    Walked back through Soi Cowboy and things were picking up. Back to my hotel for a quick shower and headed over to Soi 7 for another drive by. Soi 7 is surprisingly busy with lots of customers and ladies. Ladies outnumber the customers by far. I've never been to soi 7 in my previous trips, so it's a nice surprise. Unfortunately, there's this one girl I'd seen on my first visit (when EihTooms introduced me to soi 7) whom I keep missing.

    After a quick walk through, I make my way towards Lollipop. There's a very cute, young girl there. Every time she sits with me (this was my 3rd visit), fellow mongers are ogling her. I buy her a couple drinks, she gets a shot of tequila and monster, and a glass of jack and coke. Over the course of about 30 minutes, we're making out at the bar. Her friend also comes, they're roommates and I buy her a drink. Mamasan wants me to buy her a drink, a drink for another lady, a drink for a new lady that just had a baby, and a waiter that just turned 51. I just hand her 100 B to leave me alone, and also thanks for hooking up the young Thai girl I'm with. I barfine her (600 B, 4 k LT) and we head to my hotel. Performance was a bit lackluster, but we did BBFS+CIP without any hesitation. There was lots of DFK and her BBBJ wasn't too bad. But she was young and inexperienced, which I half expected.

    After round 1, we rested and ordered Bonchon via FoodPanda. And after dinner, we both rested a bit, me on my computer, her on her phone. But about 15 minutes in, she started dozing off. I wanted to make sure we get at least round 2 in before bed. I was barely about to wake her up. She got me hard again with some BBBJ, mounted on top for CG with lots of DFK. Finished in K9. We both washed up and went to bed. The plan was to get one more round in when we woke up. But she got up suddenly at 7 AM and said she needed to go take some kind of exam. I didn't really push for round 3. I tipped her as a thanks for the BBFS. I probably won't repeat. But glad I tried her out.

    Special thanks to EihTooms for showing a couple of us around town. I'm wondering if the BBFS was possible thanks to his intro. I've had a couple successful BBFS in the past. But it was more the exception than the rule. Hopefully, this will change. This was also why I tipped the mamasan, so she can hook it up if there are more cute BBFS ladies in the shop.

    Wrapping things up

    In summary, I think Nana has the best selection right now. Thermae has some good bargains, too, at 4 k LT for girls I would rate as an 8 face, 9 body. 2 k-2. 5 k seems to be the standard ST rate. And 4 k-6 k seems to be the standard LT rate. The LT will drop to 4 k-5 k at around 10 PM, as these businesses are supposed to close at 11 PM. Soi 7 has a large selection, although the average looks is below what Thermae and Nana have to offer. But there are a few hidden gems. One's so hidden, I haven't seen her since that first visit.

  3. #50644
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunlover2  [View Original Post]
    Personally I weight attitude twice as important to looks, so a 7 looks 10 attitude grades as (7+10+10)/3 = 9 overall, where a 10 looks 7 attitude grades as (10+7+7)/3 = 8 overall.

    Escort terms: https://skipthegames.com/articles/ab...-abbreviations.

    LAS:

    Looks / Attitude / Service: A subjective ranking system where each criteria is separately ranked, from lowest (1) to highest (10). Examples: 2/9/8 = Unattractive, but very friendly and good sex. 10/5/4 = Model material, but a poor attitude, and mediocre sex.

    LASER:

    Same as above + Expense and (would or wouldn't) Repeat.

    SL.
    It makes sense. That's why I feel like LDs help. While I'm drinking with them, I can get a feel for what their attitude will be like. Of course, that can all change after the barfine. But having indications (ex. If she just keeps asking for lady drinks over and over again) can help weed out the bad attitude ladies. It can also make the less attractive ladies (looks = 7) more attractive due to their attitude.

  4. #50643
    Quote Originally Posted by DBrick  [View Original Post]
    I would say there are three types of online girls...

    Part-time girls (students, office workers) earning some extra money... was a pleasant surprise to me. Some real gems with almost genuine GF experience and exemplary skillset / stamina. Most of them are willing to repeat at my place, saving the encumbrance of commuting to their hotels. One of the indications of type three girls (in their online profiles) is that they do not work for through agencies and have their face hidden.
    You solved a huge mystery for me. I was wondering why some girls hide their faces while charging a higher price, and still expect business. Why would anyone in their right might choose them over those with faces, one the same site, with no other observable difference. Now I understand, a likely part-timer.

  5. #50642
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I notice the one reviewer who only gave her a 9/10 rating on all three criteria instead of 10/10 on two or more apparently docked her points for "no singing".

    Clearly, the customers for those sites are looking for a different kind of service than I am. Hehe.
    One of the most important things about reading reviews on sites like this and others like Fiwfans is know who your poster is. Is this guy a trusted poster? Is he just a fake handle, shill, or troll? Does he only post vague information with no details that anyone could post (ie. Never names bars, girls, etc.)? Does he rate everyone is hot? If he names a girl or bar how was his experience compared to your recent experience at that bar? Better yet, meet up with guys who say they are in town and go out with them. This is by far the best way to know if the poster has similar taste in girls than you do.

  6. #50641
    Quote Originally Posted by RacShack
    One of the higher ranked trusted members on that site and here as well.
    Thank you. I think you and MonkeyPaw just instantly make the site so much more useful.

  7. #50640

    Fake reviews

    SinfulKorean,

    Mini looks hot in the pics, but pics are always extensively photo shopped. Their techniques have gotten very slick over the last few decades. The escort I booked on Smooci in Bangkok showed up, same girl but 20 years older in real life, looking disgustingly old and high mileage. Had to cancel her.

    There is a huge industry in Thailand and China with low lifes doing full-time photo shopping and writing fake reviews. A lot of reviews for products and services in the US are also contracted to these fake reviewers.

    Glad to have your on-location reviews.

  8. #50639
    Quote Originally Posted by YetAnotherGuy  [View Original Post]
    Great report! But for the record, what is now Rainbow 5 used to be Twister (differentiated from Twister BKK, which is downstairs). Twister sold their second floor bar to the Rainbow group and opened a bar on Soi 7. Rainbow 4 is still there, where it always was on the second floor (next to Rainbow 5), but it isn't open yet. I've seen work going on there, so it might possibly open sometime.
    Makes absolutely absolute no sense. Rainbow 5 should just sell and go away. Never popular at all.

    Rainbow 4 and 2 should merge. One juggernaut instead of 2 mediocre bars.

  9. #50638
    Quote Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean  [View Original Post]
    I'll give it a couple more tries before I write it off. There are basically 2 risk factors when we're hobbying.

    1. Looks.

    2. Service / performance.
    Personally I weight attitude twice as important to looks, so a 7 looks 10 attitude grades as (7+10+10)/3 = 9 overall, where a 10 looks 7 attitude grades as (10+7+7)/3 = 8 overall.

    Escort terms: https://skipthegames.com/articles/ab...-abbreviations.

    LAS:

    Looks / Attitude / Service: A subjective ranking system where each criteria is separately ranked, from lowest (1) to highest (10). Examples: 2/9/8 = Unattractive, but very friendly and good sex. 10/5/4 = Model material, but a poor attitude, and mediocre sex.

    LASER:

    Same as above + Expense and (would or wouldn't) Repeat.

    SL.

  10. #50637
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    What used to be Rainbow 4 is now Rainbow 5. You can't miss it with all the red and white lighting outside. There were some pretty Hello, girls and when I was shown inside I was pleased to see 10 girls spread across the two L-shaped stages, albeit sat on stools rather than shuffling around chrome poles. Ordinarily the girls wear skimpy bikinis but now they have to cover up, so wore French maid outfits instead.
    Great report! But for the record, what is now Rainbow 5 used to be Twister (differentiated from Twister BKK, which is downstairs). Twister sold their second floor bar to the Rainbow group and opened a bar on Soi 7. Rainbow 4 is still there, where it always was on the second floor (next to Rainbow 5), but it isn't open yet. I've seen work going on there, so it might possibly open sometime.

  11. #50636
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    So which telegram and Line groups would you recommend?

    I have been looking at fiwfans and I got some good advice from Monkeypaw about how best to tackle that site, but I'm curious to look at the telegram and Line groups.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pita123  [View Original Post]
    Monkeypaw?
    One of the higher ranked trusted members on that site and here as well.

    https://fiwfans.com/profile/406raef9hkul4gdts

  12. #50635
    Quote Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean  [View Original Post]
    I'll give it a couple more tries before I write it off. There are basically 2 risk factors when we're hobbying.

    1. Looks.

    2. Service / performance.

    At least with gogo bars, massage parlors, soapy massage, and Thermae you eliminate (for the most part, some could hide fat and scars under the clothes). Then the only risk factor is performance.

    Lots of people seem to vouch for FiwFans. So I'll try it a couple more times, with more due diligence next time. I really don't get the warped scales, though. Even from some of the most active reviewers. Why does everyone rate them 10/10? Does your review not get added if you add a lower score? Do you get BL for a more realistic score?

    For example, Mini's https://fiwfans.com/sideline/406raeo3ikxw1xsza looks (cover) were probably a 6, with approx age around 35. But she's got 3 reviews saying how amazing her looks are and looks to be in her early 20's. Some people have said you have to read between the lines. But why put up reviews where they have to be cryptic at best, completely false at worst?
    I notice the one reviewer who only gave her a 9/10 rating on all three criteria instead of 10/10 on two or more apparently docked her points for "no singing".

    Clearly, the customers for those sites are looking for a different kind of service than I am. Hehe.

  13. #50634
    Quote Originally Posted by LookingLooking  [View Original Post]
    Such things, you should expect hits and misses. Even in other countries.

    There always risk to it. But I would say the price is good for you to try a few times.

    Yes the bars diverted some talents there after they reopened.

    Be adventurous and it'll reward you.
    I'll give it a couple more tries before I write it off. There are basically 2 risk factors when we're hobbying.

    1. Looks.

    2. Service / performance.

    At least with gogo bars, massage parlors, soapy massage, and Thermae you eliminate (for the most part, some could hide fat and scars under the clothes). Then the only risk factor is performance.

    Lots of people seem to vouch for FiwFans. So I'll try it a couple more times, with more due diligence next time. I really don't get the warped scales, though. Even from some of the most active reviewers. Why does everyone rate them 10/10? Does your review not get added if you add a lower score? Do you get BL for a more realistic score?

    For example, Mini's https://fiwfans.com/sideline/406raeo3ikxw1xsza looks (cover) were probably a 6, with approx age around 35. But she's got 3 reviews saying how amazing her looks are and looks to be in her early 20's. Some people have said you have to read between the lines. But why put up reviews where they have to be cryptic at best, completely false at worst?

  14. #50633
    Quote Originally Posted by DBrick  [View Original Post]
    I agree 100%. I've ended a long term relationship recently and only started to explore Fiwfans, sidelines and similar online options in December. From my limited experience and chitchat with the girls (no more than 20), I would say there are three types of online girls.

    - A professional that used to be an FL or a bargirl but due to Covid works online.

    - A full-time girl for the local market.

    - Part-time girls (students, office workers) earning some extra money.

    With the first type, you are basically getting the same as a bar without bar / LD overhead but without "hunting" excitement if you like it. The second type (to talk with them, you need some basic Thai) are more "Thai" beautiful. Whiter, thinner, younger, but more cock-scared / starfish. The third type was a pleasant surprise to me. Some real gems with almost genuine GF experience and exemplary skillset / stamina. Most of them are willing to repeat at my place, saving the encumbrance of commuting to their hotels. One of the indications of type three girls (in their online profiles) is that they do not work for through agencies (3619;3633;3610;3591;3634;3609;3648;3629;3591; / get the job yourself) and have their face hidden.
    There are also quite a few that worked overseas and returned to Thailand due to Covid.

  15. #50632
    Quote Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean  [View Original Post]
    FiwFans was a complete dud. I chose Mini based on pics and reviews (I think she had 2-3). Looks were a 6 at most. There were some resemblances to her pics, but pics looked about 15 years younger. I left and hung out at lollipop the rest of the night. Nana seems to be getting better and better talents (appearance wise).
    Such things, you should expect hits and misses. Even in other countries.

    There always risk to it. But I would say the price is good for you to try a few times.

    Yes the bars diverted some talents there after they reopened.

    Be adventurous and it'll reward you.

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