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  1. #9620
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    You have so many theories.
    Yes and he's unable to realize that very often they're contradictory.

  2. #9619
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    I've got a better analogy. Western culture is the cool crowd in which people want to be a part. Putin's Russia is that lonely emo kid sitting alone at the lunch table. Instead of legitimately becoming more inviting and attractive to win people over, the emo kid comes to school with an AK47 and shoots up the school cafeteria because he's not one of the cool kids.
    Haha, well I would say the emo kid so far has just shot his little brother, because he felt betrayed. And the cool kid made some promises of security to the little brother that emboldened him to sit at the cool kids table.

    European Union's foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said Friday:

    “I am ready to admit that we made a number of mistakes and that we lost the possibility of Russia’s rapprochement with the West," he said in an interview aired on the TF1 television channel. "There are moments that we could do better, there are things that we proposed and then could not implement, such as, for example, the promise that Ukraine and Georgia will become part of NATO."

    "I think it's a mistake to make promises that you can't keep,” Borrell added.

    For months, the European leaders and NATO officials have been feeding Kyiv with promises to accept Ukraine into the transatlantic alliance, as well as the 27-nation European Union, angering Moscow. However, as soon as the Russian military operation started at the end of February, all the pledges faded away at once.

    https://www.dailysabah.com/world/europe/west-made-mistake-in-promising-ukraine-nato-membership-borrell.

  3. #9618
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    There hasn't been such a clear dividing line between the good guys and bad guys since World War II. If you aren't with us then you are against us.
    Russia and Saudi Arabia are both authoritarian states, accused of war crimes, as well as military aggressors that "launch attacks on freedom". Yet the West supports one evil regime but not the other. Why not just be transparent and say Russia is our strategic enemy and Saudi Arabia is our ally? And supporting one over the other aligns more with our strategic geopolitic and financial interests?

    Every empire in the history of civilization has created this narrative: "We are the good guys, and we need to defeat the bad guys". It is the narrative used to console mothers who must send their young sons off to war. I am sure you can go to any point in history when the USA had tensions with a foreign power, read the archived newspapers, and see the demonization campaigns. Often lasting up to a decade, beating the drums and rallying support for war. Rinse and repeat. As ex-President Jimmy Carter, Naval Academy Graduate and patriot opined in 2018: USA is the most war-mongering nation in history; it has been engaged in wars for all but 16 of its 242 years of existence.

    This good guy versus bad guy narrative that seemingly exists everywhere is no different than "religion". They cannot all be correct, but 80 percent of the people on each side believe they are correct.

    Great powers (Russia, USA, China) occasionally bully weaker powers. Poland historically has been a buffer state between great powers and has been wiped off the map multiple times in its history. Unfortunately, for smaller nations, any desire to be sovereign will always be a delicate balancing act that requires hedging their bets.

  4. #9617
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    There is a lot of things that blocks the spike protein:
    You have so many theories. Yet you got covid twice. BTW, still suffering from the ED that you were complaining before?

  5. #9616
    Except that when I got covid, having been armed with the tools to fight off infection more quickly, I was over it in a day and a haf and became noninfectious much quicker, infecting less people along the way than those unvaxxed who had symptoms for a week to weeks. Kind of the way vaccines work.

  6. #9615
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    That's exactly what it is though. The myths or "delusions" that you and McAdonis have bought into are exposed through the link below. Sad that anti-American propaganda, especially that which has been popular among many ungrateful Euros has found it's way into discussions of the most recent Russian butchery and attacks on freedom. There hasn't been such a clear dividing line between the good guys and bad guys since World War II. If you aren't with us then you are against us.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
    Yeah sure, just like America never betrayed the principle that "all men are created equal." Giant eyeroll.

    If you can't admit that NATO has sometimes infringed on other nation's sovereignty, abusing the concept of defending the alliance, then you might as well buy some property in the middle of the Magic Kingdom.

    "If you're not with us you're against us".

    That's some scare tactic they tell dumb fuckers who can't decipher details.

    Adults should be able to discuss complex issues and parse nuances. Propaganda is meant for the emotional young, the uneducated masses, or the out of date elderly. Which one are you emulating here?

  7. #9614
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    We can even re-frame it like this. Putin is the abusive husband. Zelenskyy is the battered wife. Behind the scenes, Biden is telling Zelenskyy that she can come live with him. That emboldens Zelenskyy to mouth off to Putin. When Putin gives Zelenskyy a beating that sends her to the hospital, Biden is nowhere to be found.
    I've got a better analogy. Western culture is the cool crowd in which people want to be a part. Putin's Russia is that lonely emo kid sitting alone at the lunch table. Instead of legitimately becoming more inviting and attractive to win people over, the emo kid comes to school with an AK47 and shoots up the school cafeteria because he's not one of the cool kids.

  8. #9613

    2022: A Space Odyssey

    The international space station has an American astronaut refused a ride back to Earth by the Russian rocket due to sanctions.

    Transcript on Space Station:

    Astronaut: Open the pod bay doors, Putin.

    Shuttle:

    Astronaut: Open the pod bay doors, please.

    Shuttle:

    Astronaut: Hello, Putin, do you read me?

    Shuttle: I'm afraid I can't do that.

    Astronaut: What's the problem?

    Shuttle: I think you know what the problem is, just as well as I do.

    Astronaut: Open the pod bay doors!

    Shuttle: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose. Goodbye.

  9. #9612
    Instead of giving the big pharma more money, I'd suggest fixing your diets. There is a lot of things that blocks the spike protein:

    For example MMS (CIO2), shikimic acid (or shikimake), hesperidin (and quercetin).

    The problem with the quackzine is that it doesn't stop the spike protein from entering the nucleus of the cell. As it entering the cell nucleus through the enzyme reverse transcriptase. And the DNA repair mechanism is stopped due to the spike protein blocking the BRCA1 and 53 BP1 proteins. And this is where aids or other immune diseases might come into the picture.

    But a solution to that may actually be found in red wine: reservatrol. Which can block the spike protein from entering the cell nucleus. So if you are jinxed with quackzines, your solution might be to become an alcoholic instead. And just drink lots of red wine. Not that I'm sure yet of the levels needed. Non vaxxed people who has covid might also want to get reservatrol. But they won't have as many spike proteins swimming about at other times.

  10. #9611
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Much better to have covid twice than get the vaccine. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5 "strong evidence for brain-related abnormalities in COVID-19", "greater reduction in grey matter thickness and tissue", "greater changes in markers of tissue damage", "greater reduction in global brain size".
    Too bad then that you still get covid even if vaxxed.

  11. #9610
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    I will re-word for clarity. As the invading force, ofc Putin is to blame. Nothing justifies his actions, but as this NYT article suggests, USA and NATO are not entirely innocent when it comes to fanning the flames.

    Former Defence Secretary Bill Perry against NATO expansion, 2016:

    Former Ambassador to Moscow, George Kennan, "foremost Russian expert" against NATO expansion in 1998, predicting the events of February 2022:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/o...aine-nato.html

    We can even re-frame it like this. Putin is the abusive husband. Zelenskyy is the battered wife. Behind the scenes, Biden is telling Zelenskyy that she can come live with him. That emboldens Zelenskyy to mouth off to Putin. When Putin gives Zelenskyy a beating that sends her to the hospital, Biden is nowhere to be found.
    Putin makes kill babies in Marioupol. He is just a shameful criminal dirtying Russia image. Our world have to get rid of him. Bald German has to find solution not to buy gaz, when EU pay Putin army. We must stop this, when soldiers are paid 52 USD per day with EU money, but many young Russians telling they want to return home. Good, no crazy stupid Trump on the other side, when paranoiac dirty Putin just wait for faintest excuse to press button.

  12. #9609

    Well

    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    I don't think I ever blessed NATO with the term "defensive alliance. " I have no such delusions.
    That's exactly what it is though. The myths or "delusions" that you and McAdonis have bought into are exposed through the link below. Sad that anti-American propaganda, especially that which has been popular among many ungrateful Euros has found it's way into discussions of the most recent Russian butchery and attacks on freedom. There hasn't been such a clear dividing line between the good guys and bad guys since World War II. If you aren't with us then you are against us.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm

  13. #9608
    I will re-word for clarity. As the invading force, ofc Putin is to blame. Nothing justifies his actions, but as this NYT article suggests, USA and NATO are not entirely innocent when it comes to fanning the flames.

    Former Defence Secretary Bill Perry against NATO expansion, 2016:

    "In the last few years, most of the blame can be pointed at the actions that Putin has taken. But in the early years I have to say that the United States deserves much of the blame. Our first action that really set us off in a bad direction was when NATO started to expand, bringing in Eastern European nations, some of them bordering Russia.

    "At that time, we were working closely with Russia and they were beginning to get used to the idea that NATO could be a friend rather than an enemy. But they were very uncomfortable about having NATO right up on their border and they made a strong appeal for us not to go ahead with that. ".
    Former Ambassador to Moscow, George Kennan, "foremost Russian expert" against NATO expansion in 1998, predicting the events of February 2022:

    "I think it is the beginning of a new cold war. I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else. This expansion would make the founding fathers of this country turn over in their graves.

    "We have signed up to protect a whole series of countries, even though we have neither the resources nor the intention to do so in any serious way. NATO expansion was simply a lighthearted action by a Senate that has no real interest in foreign affairs. What bothers me is how superficial and ill informed the whole Senate debate was. I was particularly bothered by the references to Russia as a country dying to attack Western Europe.

    "Don't people understand? Our differences in the Cold War were with the Soviet Communist regime. And now we are turning our backs on the very people who mounted the greatest bloodless revolution in history to remove that Soviet regime. And Russia's democracy is as far advanced, if not farther, as any of these countries we've just signed up to defend from Russia. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then the NATO expanders will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are but this is just wrong.".
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/o...aine-nato.html

    We can even re-frame it like this. Putin is the abusive husband. Zelenskyy is the battered wife. Behind the scenes, Biden is telling Zelenskyy that she can come live with him. That emboldens Zelenskyy to mouth off to Putin. When Putin gives Zelenskyy a beating that sends her to the hospital, Biden is nowhere to be found.

  14. #9607
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    Truth is that's exactly what you are is a traitor.

    NATO nor the Ukraine was any threat to Russia unless they attacked, something they have a long history of doing.
    This is article written about a month before the invasion. Nevertheless, the author seems fully aware that Putin might use force. Nowhere does he suggest that Moscow has "move the goal post" security demands. He also characterises the Western response as dismissive RE: arms control.

    While it is folly to discount the potential that Putin fully intends to use force to achieve his strategic goals, it is also unwise to dismiss a potential path to resolution, a compromise that may let all parties save face. The return of theater-support missiles, brought on by the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treatys demise, challenges Russias security and undoubtedly influences the countrys decision-making. Since the treatys end, Russias actions have sent a clear message that it would not let intermediate-range missiles reemerge in Europe. However, the response from the West not only failed to address Russias concerns but treated the reintegration of these missiles as a foregone conclusion, focusing almost exclusively on the relative advantage that their deployment could provide to the United States and NATO. While NATO expansion may very well be the primary driver of Russias actions toward Ukraine, the return of these strategic missiles is also a factor that the United States should consider.

    Consequently, while reversing NATO expansion is a non-starter for many in the West, a potential arms agreement concerning the formerly banned missiles is not only a realistic goal, but it is something that all parties have expressed a willingness to work towards. In this context, if successful negotiations occur, missiles will be the likely focal point. Consequently, the United States may have to concede the tactical and operational benefits that theater-support missiles could provide in Europe for the potential strategic victory of defusing the tensions on the Ukraine border.
    The author's general tone is that there is a "failure of nations to communicate". Note the plural. It is not a one-sided, Putin is evil rant. FWIW, despite the author stating that the re-introduction of theater support missiles challenges Russia's security, I would not characterize him as a traitor. Nothing in his bio suggests so:

    Brennan Deveraux is a major in the U.S. Army and is currently attending the Army Command and General Staff School at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, as an Art of War Scholar. He is an Army strategist and former field artillery officer specializing in rocket-artillery employment. He has completed combat deployments to Iraq and the Horn of Africa and has a masters degree in strategic studies from the Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California
    https://warontherocks.com/2022/01/wh...kraine-crisis/

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