Sao Paulo Reports

[ParsTiger]

Not all things of course went according to plan, alas I only had 4 because Milan at Bomboa gave me a fire to put out. Emergency is over and I can recommend Sirio Augusta private hospital. Options were limited on a Saturday evening and at least I got to see a doctor unlike American hospitals. So I had a weekend of rest forced upon me. I am giving consideration now to getting travel insurance because this is not the first time the sword cut its sheeth.

I'm off to Curitiba next, even the locals' forum is kinda dead but I needed a cheaper place to finish the month out, there its mostly Prives and GPS. I am hesitant to say this but, at 57 Friends House I went to a 2nd time Friday afternoon where another American was present. An Asian guy who seems to be a regular and fluent in Porto. Don't bother speaking to him, he gets very passive aggressive to the extent I just decided to leave before he ruined my already stressful day.

Also on Scandallo, even my shitty Visa works there (for cover) and to add to my report there was no more than 3 negras but around 7 short haired garotas in case you like that. It is worth going just to see it but I recommend going before 7. Maybe Friday was actually slow but I barely saw any 9's, I'd say if you averaged the looks out it would be 7.5 Everyman has his own 10.

[WonderWhy]

I just stayed three nights at the Double Tree. It was the cheapest points close to the action. I never got to the action because of my favorites. Anyway, the hotel is not as nice as the Renaissance or even the Marriott Executive Apartments but is in a party central. Bars were packed up and down the street with wonderful eye candy all Friday and Sunday night. Also I had no problem bringing two different girls in.

FYI. The street gets jammed on Friday and Saturday nights so give yourself plenty of time to get there and don't plan to be able to do any in and out trips quickly.

[WonderWhy]

To answer your question re Jardins, my first exposure and many of them were at Tangara 200. It still has a special place in my heart because several of my best experiences were taking girls from there to my hotel for the night. I went there last Saturday and was not disappointed.

I met My current best lover at Chanes. I don't know if it is still open. There are many in Jardins, Vanis Way etc. If you want you can PM me.

Anyone has preference clinicas in Jardins. All the clinicas I go to are in Moema, however, this time I am staying in Jardins and wanted to know of any recommended ones I can potentially walk too.

Thanks guys!

[Kcrl01]

Can anyone recommend a place that has facilities similar if not equal or superior to Asturias? Inquiring minds want to know.

Cheers.

[JohnnyWalker55]

Sorry if it's a repetitive question, but upon searching the forums the only prive scene I've found is in Santana, been there, the talent is okay but damn it's far all the way north in bumfuck nowhere.

Any neighborhoods besides Santana where there are cheap prives grouped together like the ones in Rio? (50-100 reais).

I saw the clinica scene in moema but those all seem to be around 200-300 reais per session. Coming from Colombia, I'm a cheap charlie for sp.

Thanks for your time.

Jw.

[The Cane]

Argentina is only worth a visit if you know how to navigate the Seeking Arrangements scene and enjoy the whole date experience. Top shelf girls if this is your thing and Buenos Aires is a lovely city. Very European. The Italian at Marcelo and walk after in Puerto Madero is worth the trip.

Too bad about Argentina. It used to be very good for the face-to-face club scene. But then I heard they closed all of the puta palaces down. Well, I'm certain you can still get a good piece of steak there face-to-face, if not a piece of ass haha!

[Steve 9696]

Having experienced Colombia, Argentina, and Brazil, here is the summary of my dates and thoughts on the venues. Of course the summary is: if you have the coin you can get awesome girls in any of the three countries -- so long as you pick the right format for that country.

Medellin -- Primarily Facebook and Referrals.

Bella and Alejandra Duo -- Picked up at a local small club, these girls were four hours of fun and partying. The sex was just altogether OK, but having a more senior girl help coach up her younger protege on the finer points of BJ was fun. But mostly just tons of rum shots and tussi (them not me) and grinding and dancing and just having fun.

Julia -- Referral from a friend this girl is fresh and cute and built and bubbly and has the finest pussy to finger on planet earth. Her BJ is lame, but she's a nice girl and I would have repeated if I had the time.

Karen. Damn this girl has an amazing face (and good bod). She wears lots of makeup but it's working because I could look at her all day. A bit bizness-like in the bedroom, but damn she's fine. Came in Mish, which doesn't happen so often, but looking at that face. Whoa.

Kerry. Referral from a friend. Had dinner together and we just clicked chemically from the get go and I couldn't get enough. Her smile and laugh will melt you. We had amazing foreplay in the jacuzzi and the sex was just so passionate. Went touristing the next day and she helped guide me by the hand through the worst part of El Centro. Several quite nasty blocks of piss and fish smell and yikes. Plaza Botero itself is nice and feels like any city. Had an amazing pasta lunch, more amazing sex (damn the way she looks in my eyes slays me) and a mega afternoon spoon nap. I would def repeat with this girl.

Vennie Spinner. I don't even remember her name. Grabbed outside of Park Lleras. Seems so innocent but quite the little shark. Ended up haggling over condom for BJ, and other things. Basically some pretty darn good sex and a lot of arguing. Super amazing be cups on the tiniest frame you can imagine. Only bad experience in Medellin (and not completely awful on balance. She was lots of fun when we weren't arguing LOL).

Andrea. Believe another poster mentioned her. I am not usually one for sharing girls names, but if you care to dig she is a real gem. Tattooed head to toe, so if you don't like that, definite non-starter. I think they are super bad ass. And she's got a very solid woman's build -- think her ass is fake actually. So if you want a flaca look elsewhere. But if you want one of the top BJs on planet earth she's your gal. And she's sweet and passionate also. I took the upcharge and blasted twice inside 40 minutes -- and that after all the girls above in just two days. So I think that speaks to her BJ prowess.

Buenos Aries -- Seeking Arrangements Only.

Lucia. Wow this girl looks amazing. A 10 face no lie. A 9 body. Perfect English, fun to be with at dinner and walking. Just a great date. Sex pretty darn mediocre. I'd still see her again just to have that doll out with me.

Melia. We were in close chat for several weeks, but I semi-ghosted her 2 weeks out as I settled on other girls. Failed second date with Lucia (she contacted me later but it was too late) and Meli came through with 4 hours notice! Great fun date despite the language barrier. Amazing sex including swap to BBFS midway. Totally would repeat.

Sao Paulo -- Clubs.

Natalie. Scandallo. Scandallo remains amazing, but Natalie too pro for my taste. Rushed and fake. Made a mistake taking her. Guess it goes to show, the experience only works if you follow the rules. I broke several and paid the price. Still managed to squirt one out, but def not the highlight of my trip.

Maria. Damn, another keeper like Kerry. Found her at Lotus -- only four girls there, but I guess you only need one, because chemistry was off the charts from the first minute. We basically wifed up for the next two days. Amazing dinner, walks, drinks, sex. Really the whole GFE package from top to bottom.

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So what's my take on the three countries? This is all just my opinion based on quite a limited sample. YMMV.

I still think Brazil is number one if you like the face to face club scene and lots of options. Scandallo remains more pretty girls per square meter than anywhere on the planet. In comparison La Isla was distinctly lame with plastic girls and inflated prices.

Argentina is only worth a visit if you know how to navigate the Seeking Arrangements scene and enjoy the whole date experience. Top shelf girls if this is your thing and Buenos Aires is a lovely city. Very European. The Italian at Marcelo and walk after in Puerto Madero is worth the trip.

I was surprised how short and lame the BJs were in Colombia (with exception of Andrea). I found the Romanian pro girls in London and the amateur Seeking girls in the US to be decidedly better. Not sure why but it was noticeable and stood out to me.

You can find amazing real life GFE wherever you go. But it takes a bit of luck and numbers. Out of 11 girls across the three countries I found 2 girls I was happy to wife up with and another 2 who gave the in bedroom GFE we all seek. Another 5 that I was happy to have spent time with and only 2 I wished I hadn't.

[Elvis 2008]

I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.

I agree 1000%.

I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less.

I have tried explaining this on other forums, and I will give it my best shot here. When I was in Brazil, I was amazed at how many WGs were normal. What I mean is that once you got to know them and they liked you, they did not ask for more money. Not all of them, but the classier ones with whom I had chemistry that was the case.

With American woman and sugar babies and hookers and strippers, forget anything serious. They look at men like ATMs, and it is never enough, but I learned if I paid them and was straight with them about my seeing other women, the American would perform really well, and I was pretty happy doing that. I then moved to the Latin cultures with the same MO, and the women were better and cheaper.

I had two women in my life telling me that I would find a woman who I thought was so special I would just want to see them. I thought they were fucking crazy, but it planted a seed. You see I think most mongers have stress in their lives that they do not like to talk about. They would like to have one woman, but they have not found a woman who was special enough for them to give up their monogamy. Society says, "Oh, you are fucking that woman. You have to be monogamous", and they feel the shame of seeing multiple women.

Some guys here are such feminist types they objected to the phrase "earning monogamy" but I think it is a worthwhile exercise. What would it take for you to be loyal to one woman? If you can answer that question, your straying is not the problem, the women just are not good enough.

With me, she had to be so hot I would not look at someone else, intelligent, honest, trustworthy, the sex had to be so good that I would not want to stray, not a whiner who would bring me down, not emasculate me and in general be a sweet supportive person. In short, I wanted a 10 in looks, a 10 in bed, who is an angel. Good like finding that right? The irony is that I did, and I almost passed her up because I thought she was too good to be true.

That is the funny part. You actually visualize what you want, and the universe has a weird way of giving it to you.

The transition for mongers is tough. You have to give up the idea of being ripped off and change gears such that you want to support a woman. The air fares and hotels make it so that it is not cheap but there is a lot less wasted money.

My gal is in Colombia, and I am glad because it is closer but I was talking to some amazing Brazilian women. I was all set to go down there and this woman screwed it up. LOL.

With me, I have a built in reason to not marry her for a few years, but I have to say that what I hope is that the habits she forms in our relationship stays the same such that if we do get married, nothing changes. Because if they do, I am out, and I will go back to being how I was before.

[UniversalX]

I decided to check out Lotus Club and man was that interesting. It was sad actually. The facilities at this club are AMAZING. Glitz and glam and lights and 40 foot ceilings, honestly better than Scandallo and. Wait for it. ONE girl. Yep. One. I decide to throw them a bone and sit down for a drink. There is one other guy drifting around, at least 10 waitstaff and Me. I just sit and marvel and wonder wtf is wrong with this place and three more girls eventually show. Which of course is also pathetic having just come from Scandallo but All are at least vaguely pretty.........

Yea I want that hour or more. But I also want the full GFE. Someone whose eyes shine when they look at me like they adore me. Someone to walk hand and hand with and find somewhere special together. And fuck there is absolutely such a thing as chemistry.

https://lotusclub.com.br/home/

I can't understand why such a nice club is unable to recruit more girls? I know Scandallo has reputation for large selection, but they can't have the monopoly on it. It would have been nice if you asked the management why so few girls? (wonder if club charging girls too much)

On the GFE front nice to see you got someone you enjoyed being with and spent quality time with.

[RealShaun]

Guys,

Last night I did a Triple banger. Took 3 girls from Scandallo, paid cover to get them out, and we all went over to Lush motel. Had one giving me BBBJ, another eating my a-hole, and the 3rd one passionately kissing me GFE, passionately. Was only able to cum off twice. Love the rooms, had mirrors everywhere. Two of them gave me a strip pole routine, and the 3rd GFE was rubbing me down and stroking me. Then we all jumped into the pool and two of them started kissing each other, wonderful time. Much more relax environment then being in the Scandallo rooms. Just a heads up.

[RealShaun]

Anyone has preference clinicas in Jardins. All the clinicas I go to are in Moema, however, this time I am staying in Jardins and wanted to know of any recommended ones I can potentially walk too.

Thanks guys!

[Steve 9696]

Ran the Colombia, Argentina, Brazil trifecta. Here is the São Paulo part. Buenos Aires is in the Seeking Arrangements thread as I did only Seeking in BA. Colombia to follow.

So I finally had my first opportunity to get back to Brazil but it turned out nothing like I'the planned. I was in town for two nights and a full day with a late night flight the last day. The first two nights I figured were Scandallo and maybe I might hook a girl there interested in the afternoon of day 3.

Hit Scandallo just before prime time. Maybe 10:30. Prob about 100 girls at the time. Did the usual entry sign in and got a Jack and Coke. And hung out at the bar.

As expected the girl next to me struck up a conversation. We chatted a bit and I would say she was my type. A bit girl next door, and very pretty. But I had just gotten there and figured I should play the field. So I excused myself to roam.

I roamed around a bit and by after 11 it was hopping more. Maybe 150 girls and the band came on. A couple other girls chatted me up, one with excellent English and again doable for me but it was still early and I was enjoying the band and atmosphere.

I should note that while all 150 are pretty and I'the fuck any of them in a pinch, my "got to have it" taste is very narrow. Only saw a very few that I thought "I need to find her later".

After a while I thought I would wander out to the patio but it appeared closed. This turns out to be very wrong and only due to renovations. There are two major things changed in the layout since my 2019 visit:

First the patio is massively expanded and sports it's own bar. But it's not accessed near the elevators as before. That entrance was closed. Rather you go past the restrooms and continue straight and voila onto a massive new and beautiful outdoor setting. I discovered this quite late.

Second and maybe less important to some is the hallway with couches which used to separate the club from the dining area is gone. The dining area has taken it over. I liked this area for chatting away from the crush. And fond Andressa memories there. Oh well.

Anyhow at some point maybe around 12 I found the patio and was quickly engaged by a lady (not really a girl — she might have been 30+) who was quite chatty and flirty and generally nice to be with. Super slim great hair great face but large fake tits. Somehow they managed to look good on her anyhow.

Long story short. Great in public. A pro in the room. It's not that she was bad. It's just that it wasn't real. There was some kissing and a BBBJ but you could never mistake this for GFE. Mechanical. Too fast. Fake moaning. Again it wasn't horrible. All the trimmings were there without a lot of showstoppers. But for someone used to real GFE it just wasn't great. We got it done. I allowed myself to get hustled by a pro. Bad dog! (700 R+230 R room).

So I came out about 1 (maybe 30 minutes in room which is short but I was all about getting done and out). And wandered only a bit. The band was done or on break and vibe a shade less fun and me slightly bummed about my choice. But my balls were empty so I wasn't desperate for round 2. I'the also already seen 9 (other girls in Colombia and BA in the 6 days prior to this. So I thought I'the take a look elsewhere. (Scandallo club bill was 400 R incuding entry, two drinks for me, and a massive lady drink for her).

I decided to check out Lotus Club and man was that interesting. It was sad actually. The facilities at this club are AMAZING. Glitz and glam and lights and 40 foot ceilings, honestly better than Scandallo and. Wait for it. ONE girl. Yep. One. I decide to throw them a bone and sit down for a drink. There is one other guy drifting around, at least 10 waitstaff and Me.

I just sit and marvel and wonder wtf is wrong with this place and three more girls eventually show. Which of course is also pathetic having just come from Scandallo but All are at least vaguely pretty. The second one rather catches my eye with an amazing face if slightly hippy frame that I will later discover is all that. Firm not fat and a skinny waist in doggie to die for! - classic Brasileira.

She and I exchange a smile and a look or two but I'm doing the "don't send it to defcon three" and keep averting before locking eyes for too long. And the other girls all look doable after a couple drinks if not quite my type.

I decide I am going to go to each of the four girls in succession and just introduce myself and get her name in Portuguese and then say I want to talk to each girl. I do this with girl 1 (they are lined up about 15 feet apart) and I could def get with her. Nothing wrong. A bit GND. But excuse myself to move down the line.

Then onto girl 2 fully intending to hit up girls 3 and 4. But number 2 and I lock eyes and Alert Alert DEFCON 3! Full on DEFCON 3! This is not a drill!

It was honestly kinda amazing. Like instant mutual chemistry. And powerful. Her teeth are sorta odd with bunny teeth and a dual yaeba (look it up) but somehow amazing. When she smiles, she smiles with both her mouth and her eyes I am totally melted into goo.

So we chat a bit, some mutual touching and it's time for "quanto custa". She says 1000 which of course is way too high for this venue and time. I feel a little bad saying 500 but she's the one that started high not me. I think she's about to cave and a little sad so I type 600 and she readily agrees.

And off we go to my hotel (Lotus does not have onsite rooms which is a significant downside). In the room the passion is undeniable. I def should have written it down because I can't recall all the details of the first night. I remember wet and wild DATY and you could feel how real it was. When she was finally done she pulls me up face to face and starts eating me alive. You could just tell I'the released the hounds!

Her BJ is quite excellent with plenty of under the hood action. And we finish with BLS HJ which has become unfortunately the norm I've been fucking so much. But I will soon redeem myself.

The visit from here turns into a much more Seeking Arrangement relationship with full BFGF the next couple days (although I have to work and she has kids to manage). She leaves around 3 AM this first night.

Next night we meet for the most amazing Italian. It's one of those super fancy places with more waiters than diners and guys constantly pouring wine. Chafing dishes to make your pasta table side. The real deal and the food is amazing. She is soooo enjoying being treated like a princess and it warms my heart doing so.

We walk home from dinner about. 75 miles and all uphill! But we make it and grab some drinks and continue the party in the room. It is an amazing time but in the end we have to call it because I'm too drunk to get off a shot. But not for lack of trying. What a trooper.

Next day we have lunch together. Again very good. And that afternoon some really epic sex where I get to finish what I started. Urgent passionate kissing in mish and her pussy sloppy AF. I am pounding hard and fast (unusual for me) and wow. Cum hard in mish. Love that!

Afterwards we do some shopping and she's pretty low maintenance. We get some nice Easter chocolates for her girls but don't find much else of interest. Eat at the food court. LOL. But it's just BFGF and it totally works!

I know it's going to seem crazy to so many of you that with Scandallo in easy reach I would spend my three days with a mother of two. But yeah I did. I've been doing Seeking Arrangement so much that an hour of fucking is pretty far down on the list of things I'm looking for. Yea I want that hour or more. But I also want the full GFE. Someone whose eyes shine when they look at me like they adore me. Someone to walk hand and hand with and find somewhere special together.

And fuck there is absolutely such a thing as chemistry. I can objectively say that my home girl Shayla, Kerry (who I spent GFE time with in Colombia) and Maria (above) are not the prettiest girls I've been with (tho all are pretty and damn good in bed). But there is something extra. That smile that rocks your world. The way she looks at you. It's just a palpable thing. So yeah. Maria was totally worth skipping Scandallo. YMMV. 😋.

And strangely, after 11 new women this past week (ish) it makes me appreciate my home girl more. Yes lots of great sex abroad. A few spectacular looking women. And two real gems that I spent more than a night with. But my home girl Shayla still rocks my world. Life is good.

[Nounce]

I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one"...

Thank you for the reply. It is a personal question but it does make one think about how one really feels about an issue.

[Mlee3]

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[The Cane]

Recently I had a hooker over to my place who I would rate physically as a 6. It was my first time with her. She was in her late twenties and obviously had a child or two (I did not ask her how many). After the deed we got to talking. She was into community gardening. I was amazed at her knowledge of growing vegetables. She was so enthusiastic talking about the topic that we spent almost as much time talking than we did having sex. Definitely someone worthy of respect.

You never know what you're going to find out about somebody when you start relating to them and getting to know them as a full person, and not just as a sex object. That said, I still have no desire to marry a high volume prostitute. Come to think of it, I don't have a desire to marry anybody!