Seeking Arrangements

[DramaFree11]

I'm going to venture into Monterrey Mexico based on all the hype from the posters here. I'll plan for a week long trip the first week of July. I'm more of quality over quantity so a new girl every 1-2 days is good enough for me. When I solidify plans, my MO is dinner, drinks, and overnights. For those of you guys who have had experience, where is good upper end hotel to stay in that is girl friendly? I'm more fond of business type hotels (think NH Hotels) since it's easier to close the deal if I am staying at nice place.

Both Mexico City and MTY are great. Honestly, Mexico City is better and there the sky is the limit there. Definitely more expensive, but so much fun.

MYY is easier and girls are total freaks. Another plus is you can easily call escorts, in MTY. Escorts are much more expensive in.

M. City.

I stay at the NH and love it. Great location. I work out a deal with the manager and they give me a suite now super cheap. Another great thing is there is a separate entrance at the restaurant, so you can take girls up that way and you do not have to pass the front desk. They just reopened this entrance, so good.

[KingOfPoverty]

I'm going to venture into Monterrey Mexico based on all the hype from the posters here. I'll plan for a week long trip the first week of July. I'm more of quality over quantity so a new girl every 1-2 days is good enough for me. When I solidify plans, my MO is dinner, drinks, and overnights. For those of you guys who have had experience, where is good upper end hotel to stay in that is girl friendly? I'm more fond of business type hotels (think NH Hotels) since it's easier to close the deal if I am staying at nice place.

[Blood Red]

At least she had the "decency" to actually show up, unlike most scammers. But, I simply cannot believe you gave her the money. That's the kind of thing that makes it worth it for these crooks to do it again. Headache or not, I would have told her time to leave! Have a headache? That's your problem. Now get out! Unbelievable. The level of fraud on Seeking is just out of control, and definitely turned me off to the whole thing. When it's all said and done, I'm definitely not a convert Steve. It started out great in the first couple of weeks, but all downhill from there. Final thoughts to come later.

You are correct Sir, I was a fucking retard that night. Lesson learned the hard way. Regarding her showing up, she showed up to get the money. No show, no money.

[The Cane]

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...5-51c9b6fe511e

So, I checked out the link that Blood Red shared with us and? This scam artist "favorited" me and then introduced herself as a French woman living in Dubai LOLOLOL! I blocked her ass hahaha! Well, at least she isn't lying about where she lives, like so many of these women do. But, she's been "outed", at least here on this site. Wish it happened more often and in wider circles to where these scam artists get exposed and their trade ruined.

[The Cane]

Here's my story and I can totally relate to what you just posted above, with the annoying, fake caring like questions:

Here's the SA profile of the fraudster, con artist that scammed me, she changes it every month or so after scamming a bunch of people, BEWARE.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...5-51c9b6fe511e

At least she had the "decency" to actually show up, unlike most scammers. But, I simply cannot believe you gave her the money. That's the kind of thing that makes it worth it for these crooks to do it again. Headache or not, I would have told her time to leave! Have a headache? That's your problem. Now get out! Unbelievable. The level of fraud on Seeking is just out of control, and definitely turned me off to the whole thing. When it's all said and done, I'm definitely not a convert Steve. It started out great in the first couple of weeks, but all downhill from there. Final thoughts to come later.

[Blood Red]

I am sharing some of the red flags that I had encountered in SA and transition to WhatsApp.

- Pay special attention to initiation of contact from the girl who would then want to transition to WhatsApp, and then finding that message thread disappear from your message list the next day.

- On WhatsApp, she would appear to so caring to be the point of being annoying, questions like "How's your day? Did you have a good rest? Have you eaten yet? Etc etc. " Maybe if she claimed to be an Asian, that could fit into the profile, but to say that she is an European who happened to be living in the US, yeah right. Anyway, even for Asian girl, I would still look at it with suspicion.

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Here's my story and I can totally relate to what you just posted above, with the annoying, fake caring like questions:

Here's the SA profile of the fraudster, con artist that scammed me, she changes it every month or so after scamming a bunch of people, BEWARE.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...5-51c9b6fe511e

So I met this lady from Seeking Arrangement Dubai last night, my first SA Dxb experience, and it was a fucking nightmare. I'll keep it brief and will then throw in a question for you guys in order to get some sage advice:

So met the lady, a pushy, middle aged French Woman, decent looking at best. Met her for dinner, she asked for 1500 'allowance' and claims to have a regular job and not to be an escort (yeah right). She was much less attractive in person compared to her pics, but still fuckable, although not by much. So we had dinner, she was decent company. We had agreed that if we like each other somewhat, we'd proceed after dinner to my apartment for some 'intimate time' (got to love the SA euphemisms). So off we went to my apartment, and she quickly changed to get into bed. This is where it gets fucked up.

So once in bed and when I proceeded to join her, she gets hit by a headache and has low energy and isn't feeling well. She says she wants to take a nap for 15 to 30 minutes, sets her alarm clock to 15 min intervals to wake herself up. This goes on for about an hour and she is asleep, saying she doesn't feel well. Then she wakes up and asks for her 'allowance', which I like a dumb retard proceed to give her and she goes for another nap. At this time I can tell something is wrong and I am not going to see any action. I didn't want drama with her or a confrontation, although should have held my ground and decided to tell her that let's call it a night and she can go home as she does not well. So I lost 1500, an expensive dinner and didn't see any action. It was so fucking frustrating. I don't know if it was a scam and it could be entirely possible that she wasn't feeling well, but what pisses me off is that she still had the nerve to ask for her allowance when she knew she was not feeling well or whatever. So that was that. She never contacted me after that and neither did I, I knew I had scammed but rather than lash out at her, I decided to let karma sort her out.

[Dickus Maximus]

To add legitimacy they will be using legitimate pics and stories from real girls so they a have a daily feed of new pics.

Although I love Chinese girls, I won't even talk to them now on these apps. All are BS, not willing to wade through the amount of BS to find one that might be real.

[Maha Siddha]

How far advanced I should get the pay membership and having line up?

I plan a trip to Mexico City and Panama city in Late April / Early May.

It seems promising using SA to get bbfscip with semi-pro or civi girl while having overseas trip.

So I should say upfront what I want so no confusion correct?

Thanks for the help.

[AsianPursuits]

I had her top off when she asked me about money. This girl was expecting me to give her $1000 wtf. She said her last arrangement was giving her 1500 per meet. Who is out here paying girls 1500 for sex? She left after I offered her a few hundred and sounded insulted saying crap like a guy who makes X could afford it..

There is some history in this forum of wanting to address the money issue well before the bedroom scene. Males are terrible at negotiating when they have a raging hard cock. It's a fine line though between discussing too early and sounding like a punter.

[GoingDumb]

Finally had a solid SA experience. Had a first date with a girl last week. Cute, early 20's with a nice behind. Had met for coffee the previous week and had gone fine. A few hours before she texts to confirm ppm and asks if I'the been tested. Said I had in Feb, she had as well. When clothes started coming off she said she was ok with bb and said she was on the pill so I cip. I was a little surprised at how comfortable she was with it. Afterwards I asked her if she was seeing anyone else and she said not at the moment, same for me. Told her I didn't mind if she did but I'the want to know and use protection if she was. I'm still a little worried she could be lying about the pill so pull out next time. Planning on seeing her next weekend, hoping it could be regular.

I know initial coffee platonic date isn't recommended but it makes planning much easier for me. Got a reservation at a nice place, hotel 5 minutes away. The ambiguity and logistics stress me out on first meets when I'm not sure what they're down for.

This was also the first time I took v. It definitely helped but I'm a little sad I needed it even with bb barely over 30. Does it affect your sensation at all? I wasn't really sure. Are you guys able to have sex without it? I don't want it to be a crutch either.

[Oneminuteboy]

Steve.

When you meet these girls after long, do you go BB?

One of my SBs I met months ago is coming to town. I am most likely not going to BB considering she would have met other men. I don't ask her because we had a great equation when we were regular. Don't want to offend her. On the other hand, when I wrap my tool, she is probably going to roll her eyes as historically we have been BB and fucked like dogs. LOL.

Had one who hinted after our first time of sex it wasn't necessary. She was seeing 1-2 other guys. Then after a few meets said she was taking the pill, dropping it as a hint. By that time I was her only one (she said). Never had a meet to try it out.

Then there one which let to BB one the first meet with sex. She was one top and just slid it in, and I didn't ask / protest. After sex she wsaid she was on the pill and there was nothing to worry. She was seeing two other guys but not frequent.

How do you guys bring up bb / cip without spooking them? Multiple posts have advised not to bring up sex or compensation. Is bb something you only do with regular sb?

I don't, I leave it to the lady to let it know when she feels comfortable doing it. And if it does come up it has to be somebody I'm planning to see frequent.

[Nirec]

I was in a smaller city this weekend and planned to meet up with two girls. I did not discuss price with them prior. The first girl is 26 said she is a student. We planned on meeting up at a cafe, but only communicated with her by text which was my mistake so I got stood up. I should have called her a day prior before meeting. Fast forward to later that night, went out with girl #2 24 years old. She was with me at dinner for about 2 hours we were having a good time. Went back to the hotel and I started to kiss her on the neck and boobs. She didn't want to make out with me because it's not her thing, OKI get it you don't want to make out with me. I had her top off when she asked me about money. This girl was expecting me to give her $1000 wtf. She said her last arrangement was giving her 1500 per meet. Who is out here paying girls 1500 for sex? She left after I offered her a few hundred and sounded insulted saying crap like a guy who makes X could afford it. My subscription on seeking expired and I'm not renewing. It just doesn't seem worth it in the US. Other countries works great, but there is too much golden pussy syndrome in the US.

[GoingDumb]

So Cane's comment that it's super common made me poke around. Definitely no consensus on name. Some say table top. Some say Edge of Bed. And it appears Butterfly might be the most elegant term. I'm going to continue to go with The Steve since I guess I am not sex educated enough and just made it up one time. Anyhow. Butterfly or The Steve. It's the BEST by any other name.

I did this position with the first girl I had sex with kind of on accident. Pushed her backwards on to the bed and did it. Finding a bed the right height is the hardest part though LOL. It's the only way I like miss.

[AsianPursuits]

The crypto scam Asians have been all over the place since more than 12 months (SA, Tinder) some of them play a pretty long game with a lot of chatting but all their personal stories are made up.

To add legitimacy they will be using legitimate pics and stories from real girls so they a have a daily feed of new pics.

[Steve 9696]

Hey Steve,

That is also a position of choice for me although if the bed is low I do get a crap after a while and need to reposition. Oddly enough I always kinda thought of it as modified Missionary.

But henceforth I shall refer to it by its proper name The Steve.

So Cane's comment that it's super common made me poke around. Definitely no consensus on name. Some say table top. Some say Edge of Bed. And it appears Butterfly might be the most elegant term. I'm going to continue to go with The Steve since I guess I am not sex educated enough and just made it up one time. Anyhow. Butterfly or The Steve. It's the BEST by any other name.