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[Bonjovi3]

Water marks and the shil-sa are both good standards to go off of for photos. There is also something called "shink-yul" which means how close they are to the photos. Would be "shink-yul 90% which means they are very similar to the photo but could look different due to photoshop. Some have some odd numbers like 65% or something but just know that the higher the percentage, the closer it should be to the image.

Taco Yaki, right on. Shink-yul is konglish for synchronization, isn't it? I've seen that phrase used on the OP adverts and in some of the user reviews as well. However, I don't have any experience with the OPs.

I don't use the OPs because they are not only more expensive but also less likely to service a white guy. Therefore I've only ever bothered calling Hyugetels and Gunmas that offer Thai women.

I like that the Thais in Korea tend to have fair skin and east Asian features. Also, the Thais that service foreigners tend be really positive. I've had nothing but good experiences with these women.

[Garthie1]

I have seen many RLDs in Korea. My guess and maybe from some readings there are a few smaller ones in towns I have not been.

Dongducheon is getting older and bigger girls. But still F friendly.

Travelled up to DDC this past week and it's still pretty much the same. Girls there range from 2-8 on a scale to ten.

It was still early, right at sunset, so about half the shops were closed. There were about fourteen of fifteen girls and I saw about five or six girls that looked decent.

The girl I spent time with was slightly tall (5'9" or 5'10") and had a nice body with long legs, but acted kind of doe-like and reminded me of an anime character. She was sweet, it was more transactional and not very uninhibited, but she could warm up with time.

Overall, not bad for any foriegner living in Uijeongbu or north, but I wouldn't travel 1. 5 hours one way for what could be just an average time, unless you're an explorer and / or horndog.

[Garthie1]

For the old hands like myself, a review of Hooker Hill.

First, the bad- the hill continues to be slowly constricted by transgender bars and businesses closed by the pandemic. All shops on the ITW Hotel side (left as you're walking up) are closed and everything below the Grand Ole Opry on that side is likewise closed, to include VIP. As for the ITW Hotel? The million (s) dollar hotel planted right in the middle of hooker ville? It's no longer open. Not sure who thought that was a good business idea, but apparently the gentrification of Itaewon fell to the wayside and now this huge building sits silent and dark on the hill. Shame, it looked like a nice place.

The not as bad- although the pandemic may have hurt business overall, with the recent relaxation of rules there may be a sliver of hope of reopening. There are three non trans bars on the hill proper. At the very top is the Galleria- an old lady works there along with the middle aged one who used to work at the old Amazon Club. They're both rather unappealing without beer goggles, so I didn't bother. Back around the corner and down the hill is the Lily Club with the same hill pimp working there as always. She tried to hustle me into paying for a girl, sight unseen, but I politely rejected and left.

Further down is Bean's bar beside of the Grand Ole Opry and East West Club. Bean works there full time and has three other girls rotate in- Kay, another old timer from the old Bridge Club, and some other lady I'd never seen before. It's pretty small, so four women crowded in there is a bit much, but there is a separate room off sight. Bean still looks cute and still has that asset, but has put on a small amount of weight- like every girl on the hill. Kay looked about the same with those huge tits, but she only works weekends and I didn't get to partake. Shame because she's a sweetheart and one of my ATF.

On the main strip are four bars- Texas, Tiffany, Pandora, and Nymph. Texas is still run by Kelly and has a girl named Sarah that works there. Sarah used to work at the Avant Garde, but I had not seen her in five or six years. She's a real sweetheart, too, probably the nicest girl on the hill. A few years ago, I met her and had a really nice time. Naturally pretty, I think she had lost a lot of weight and was self conscious of the stretch marks and loose skin around her mid section. She's put the weight back on, so she's not as appealing as before, but she's still a sweetheart.

Across the street at TIffany are the famous Candy and Suzy. They're always down for whatever and pretty funny, too, so you'll always have a good time there.

Further up at the Pandora is a fairly sexy lady that I've had a pretty good time with before. Not much to say, other than she reminds me a little bit of SD Governor Kristi Noem.

The last place is Nymph and the 'lady' that works there is one that I could swear was a tranny from years ago. I've never partaken, but I could swear she's been on the hill since 2003 and was one of the first trannies.

At any rate, that's a rundown of the slowly dwindling hill scene. Is it terrible? Not really. Trannies are slowly driving out what business there is and what they don't take over, the shop owners have closed up. The girls are aging and there are no new ones, but it can still be fun. Other than the music blaring from the Grand Ole Opry, the hill itself is long past it's prime and pretty quiet.

[Garthie1]

That's ridiculous considering how you are still a Korean by blood. It blows my mind how picky these people can be towards foreigners.

Doesn't matter. You need to be Korean by blood AND Korean by birth, not OR.

There are mixed race Koreans that have lived in Korea their whole lives, only to be treated like a foreigner. Imagine going to the local market every day and having to reinvent yourself. How exhausting.

[Traveling John #2]

Have you tried YDP yourself?

I do not like surprises so RLD is nice because I can see what I will get. YDP was impossible a few years ago, but recently have had some success. The girls inbetween the streets will almost always say yes. Maybe 3 girls in the glass houses is possible.

[DexFerty]

Water marks and the shil-sa are both good standards to go off of for photos. There is also something called "shink-yul" which means how close they are to the photos. Would be "shink-yul 90% which means they are very similar to the photo but could look different due to photoshop. Some have some odd numbers like 65% or something but just know that the higher the percentage, the closer it should be to the image.

I find it weird that they even use those numbers. Should just be 100% real. Imagine if you bought a 65% real PS5 only to find out that it's just a PS4 that has games which are also available on the PS5 included. That would be a rip-off scam.

These women are essentially the same. It's weird to think about, since if they are worried about people recognizing them, then perhaps they just shouldn't be in the industry. That's my opinion anyways.

[Nother Monger]

I think it was a mistake admitting you were a Korean American. Next time just say you're Korean. But surprised they even asked if you were a foreigner, might have been just his intuition / your accent / etc? .

If he said he was Korean it would have been easily called out since he said he is a "kyopo with middling Korean language skills". No offense but if you're not Korean, or have not studied Korean for many years you can easily tell if someone isn't Korean by the way they speak, their accent, and intonation. This is coming from a Korean American who grew up in the states but studied Korean in Korea. After studying Korean for a couple years, even I can tell when someone isn't from Seoul by their accent / words or if they are a foreigner.

[Taco Yaki]

KoreanChinese you still here buddy? I think we have like two months or so until senior?

[Taco Yaki]

Moosewings, there are certainly some that use fake photos. The ones that are real make sure to advertise that the photos are, in fact, real. I tried to type out the Korean meaning for real and not real that appears watermarked on the photos in my last post but the Korean didn't show up for some reason. Phonetically, it would be be 실 사 'shil-sa' and 'shil-sa Jun.-bi-jung' , respectively.

If their are no watermarks indicating the authenticity of the photos and the photos are all very glamorous and professional, then the photos are probably fake.

Also, to answer your questions, I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I have intermediate Korean skills. To get service, I have always been up front with the management and let them know that I'm not Korean. However, I still get turned down most of the time. Thankfully, I have a handful of regular places that have no problem offering me service. I wish I could access more of them, but this is just the way it is.

And no, it won't help to offer more money. Look at Buddy1978's recent post. If they charge you more, they will also offer you worse service. You'll get some desperate lady they only use to service the drunkest customers. Sounds like they pulled some gremlin out of the basement to service Buddy1978 and charged him well over a normal rate for the pleasure of the experience.

If they ever refuse to show you who will provide the service before you pay, you're better off walking away. If the provider is attractive, they'll have no problem proving it.

Water marks and the shil-sa are both good standards to go off of for photos. There is also something called "shink-yul" which means how close they are to the photos. Would be "shink-yul 90% which means they are very similar to the photo but could look different due to photoshop. Some have some odd numbers like 65% or something but just know that the higher the percentage, the closer it should be to the image.

[Taco Yaki]

That's ridiculous considering how you are still a Korean by blood. It blows my mind how picky these people can be towards foreigners.

I think it was a mistake admitting you were a Korean American. Next time just say you're Korean. But surprised they even asked if you were a foreigner, might have been just his intuition / your accent / etc?

And correct, they call the girls managers out of respect.

[DexFerty]

Good advice. I'm a kyopo with middling Korean language skills. I recently tried calling up a local officetel (just once). The manager (actually, in this business they seem to refer to the girls as managers) asked me if I was a foreigner and I responded I was a Korean American. The manager was nice enough, apologized and said even if he could allow me to book, the girls don't like to take foreigners. I think I could have persuaded or offered a little more money but oh well.

That's ridiculous considering how you are still a Korean by blood. It blows my mind how picky these people can be towards foreigners.

[DexFerty]

To be honest I have mostly given up on finding escorts in 2022 in Korea. It's crazy how things are more backwards in modern times than there were in the 90's and early 00's. COVID is partially a reason for sure, but it clearly isn't a reason now. Koreans are taking over the omicron cases so they can't use that as an excuse whatsoever.

[BokehNikon]

Peanuts7 is right. Read the watermarks in the centre of the photos. It will read either 100% which means 100% real, or which means they're still preparing to add a real photo. In other words, it's a placeholder image.

From my experience the 100% real photos are very accurate. I've never felt like I wasn't meeting the woman I booked from the advertisement. They may, however, be more dolled up in the their photos with better hair and makeup, but I've also been pleasantly surprised to find some women to be more attractive in real life.

Moosewings, you might have trouble booking without being able to speak any Korean. In my experience, the last step of the booking process always involves a phone call. You'll need to be able to tell the manager that you arrived, which girl you booked, and that you would like to know her room number as well as the code to enter the building / elevator. Likewise, your listening skills would need to be good enough to gather this info.

Your best bet would be to use google translate, but tell them up front that you are not Korean and don't speak Korean. They may try to accommodate you. It really just depends on the mood of the manager and how much he wants to work to get your business.

Give it a shot and let us know if it works.

Good advice. I'm a kyopo with middling Korean language skills. I recently tried calling up a local officetel (just once). The manager (actually, in this business they seem to refer to the girls as managers) asked me if I was a foreigner and I responded I was a Korean American. The manager was nice enough, apologized and said even if he could allow me to book, the girls don't like to take foreigners. I think I could have persuaded or offered a little more money but oh well.

[Penetrador]

Hugtel- Most places want to speak on the phone. It is for safety and also to see who you are. One story I read was about a guy who got all the way into the room and showered and still after the girl thought about it, decided she was not okay with a foreigner. The good thing was she gave the money back. Also positive, another girl said yes to anal but when it hurt to much give me a refund for that service.

If you find a number you can google it and maybe bring up the other websites. There are at least 3 or 4 and not all businesses are on each. And yes, they change the websites and girls often. So good today might be bad tomorrow. But bad today might be good tomorrow. It is just a lot of work. Pictures, most are not a good match but generally they are not too far off.

YDP does not start until after 8 pm. The girls will "disappear". But if you see guys hanging out, then it probably means they are open but currently hiding. Wait a little and then walk through.

RLDs are really a big hit or miss for foreigners. The girls really do not want to be seen accepting foreigners so if you walk around when it is slow or do not stand out too much, chances could increase.

Have you tried YDP yourself?

[Bonjovi3]

Hey Bonjovi3. Glad to hear that for the most part, the pictures are accurate. I was a bit skeptical because my local AMP and stuff all use fake pictures to advertise their girls, I guess its different in Korea..

Moosewings, there are certainly some that use fake photos. The ones that are real make sure to advertise that the photos are, in fact, real. I tried to type out the Korean meaning for real and not real that appears watermarked on the photos in my last post but the Korean didn't show up for some reason. Phonetically, it would be be 실 사 'shil-sa' and 'shil-sa Jun.-bi-jung' , respectively.

If their are no watermarks indicating the authenticity of the photos and the photos are all very glamorous and professional, then the photos are probably fake.

Also, to answer your questions, I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I have intermediate Korean skills. To get service, I have always been up front with the management and let them know that I'm not Korean. However, I still get turned down most of the time. Thankfully, I have a handful of regular places that have no problem offering me service. I wish I could access more of them, but this is just the way it is.

And no, it won't help to offer more money. Look at Buddy1978's recent post. If they charge you more, they will also offer you worse service. You'll get some desperate lady they only use to service the drunkest customers. Sounds like they pulled some gremlin out of the basement to service Buddy1978 and charged him well over a normal rate for the pleasure of the experience.

If they ever refuse to show you who will provide the service before you pay, you're better off walking away. If the provider is attractive, they'll have no problem proving it.