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  1. #22685
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Kate who I saw at GT and are with an 8? A 5 in my book if I am nice. There we go.
    Even at Globe, Aphrodisia or Wellcum, I would be happy to find one super sexy Kate. At Bruggen, so many say it was the best club in Germany, she became fast superstar number 1, being booked for whole days. Lovely and knowing how to do with her ass. Higher level than average to chat.

  2. #22684
    Quote Originally Posted by Ctytek  [View Original Post]
    Also, it's extremely rare for the top looking FKK girls to also provide top level of service.
    If this were true, then no one would ever want stunners. Also, if it were true, are you just going to pay to bang the ugly, fat, and old ones? No. At the end of the day, you can't predict what service you're going to get, and even if you could, you would still want to take your chance and only bang the ones you're attracted to. No one wants to pay to bang women they aren't attracted to, regardless of service.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ctytek  [View Original Post]
    That's why I generally consider FKKs to be "McDonalds of sex" - it's cheap, scratches an itch and gets the job done quickly and with minimal effort. But it's nothing like dining at a Michelin grade restaurant. And I'd never brag about screwing those girls or refer to them as "stunners."
    I've mongered in several countries, FKKs are far from McDonald's. You want McDonalds, go to the red light district Eros center in Frankurt where the street smells like urine and you get the pleasure of walking up 15 steep flights of stairs to take your pick at overweight rude Bulgarians. Or you can try Amsterdam if you want McDonald's.

    I have no problem referring to working women as "stunners or A team" as I would my favorite porn star to distinguish whether a place is worth visiting. Now, would I brag about screwing them? No. There's nothing to brag about, as mongers, many of us have already shagged a lot women. The only person I'm competing against is myself.

  3. #22683
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    But then again, there will always be dudes who will say supermodels and miss worlds are not the best for sex, although safe to say no one posting here has fucked any such girls. Within FKKs, there is Little correlation between the best looks and the best service (used to be that way, things may have changed now).
    I wouldn't pay to fuck supermodels. Too tall and bony. The majority of them at least. When I swipe through a list of the 200 contestants some years, I usually just find 5-10 girls there whom I would go with. At Sharks, Wellcum or Oase on a good year, the ratio is far far far higher than at miss universe or miss world.

  4. #22682
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    But then again, there will always be dudes who will say supermodels and miss worlds are not the best for sex, although safe to say no one posting here has fucked any such girls. Within FKKs, there is Little correlation between the best looks and the best service (used to be that way, things may have changed now).
    This, plus it's generally lame to brag about fucking a prostitute and talk about P4P sex in weird superlatives, like that guy who keeps spamming every thread with his "stunner" talk. And the other guy who talks about how he and only he fucks girls with "high level looks," whatever that even means.

    I mean, get real. You just paid some cash to fuck an FKK girl, like 20 guys before you earlier this week. And 20 guys after you later this week. You're not special and you've not achieved some great sexual conquest. LOL.

  5. #22681
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    There were plenty of 9's if we are talking body. Faces? Not so much. Still, yes, plenty of 7's and 8's, for sure. Not many 9's if we compare them to the cutest girls on college campuses or going for an evening walk on Champs Elysee.

    The main question is what is 10? If a 10 is Christine Brinkley, Miranda Kerr type models or Miss World levels and we work backwards from there, yeah even the best FKK girls probably were not 7's never mind 8's.

    But then again, there will always be dudes who will say supermodels and miss worlds are not the best for sex, although safe to say no one posting here has fucked any such girls. Within FKKs, there is Little correlation between the best looks and the best service (used to be that way, things may have changed now).
    Right, face part this I agree and it is harder! As for the body, right, it is quite amazing how some of these girls keep in real fit shape considering their lifestyle of living in FKK eating either delivery foods or FKK foods for more than half of one year!

    I do see some girls working out before or even after their shift in Artemis gym though!

  6. #22680
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Hehe, yeah.

    I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.
    There were plenty of 9's if we are talking body. Faces? Not so much. Still, yes, plenty of 7's and 8's, for sure. Not many 9's if we compare them to the cutest girls on college campuses or going for an evening walk on Champs Elysee.

    The main question is what is 10? If a 10 is Christine Brinkley, Miranda Kerr type models or Miss World levels and we work backwards from there, yeah even the best FKK girls probably were not 7's never mind 8's.

    But then again, there will always be dudes who will say supermodels and miss worlds are not the best for sex, although safe to say no one posting here has fucked any such girls. Within FKKs, there is Little correlation between the best looks and the best service (used to be that way, things may have changed now).

  7. #22679
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Hehe, yeah.

    I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.
    True, possibly a handful of eights pre-COVID, but those days seem to be gone at least for now. Also, it's extremely rare for the top looking FKK girls to also provide top level of service. More often than not they're quite mechanical and I forget about sex with them a week later. That's why I generally consider FKKs to be "McDonalds of sex" - it's cheap, scratches an itch and gets the job done quickly and with minimal effort. But it's nothing like dining at a Michelin grade restaurant. And I'd never brag about screwing those girls or refer to them as "stunners."

  8. #22678
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Hehe, yeah.

    I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.
    2015? That was the year I kept pointing out that was turning point of line up quality declining, 2010 ish to 2014 were much better years for line up quality with more diverse line up with stunner level girls from Poland and Czech that we no longer find anymore as their nations economy got better I guess? I was fortunate enough to taste the last batch of polish stunners when I first found FKK in 2009, then about around 2012, polish stunners just vanished and now I rarely see Polish anymore or Czech!

    Well, we still got Romanian that have some stunner level beauties and let us enjoy them while it last, but with this war going on and destroying economy of surrounding nations and EU right after pandemic destroy economy! It is good for mongering scene as more stunner levels from all over the region can be expected in line up for us mongers to taste!

  9. #22677
    For reference, Barbie is the holder of the butt / back on the left in this picture:

    https://gnocca.pro/media/kunena/atta...BE115886A.jpeg

    The middle is Lorena (still active), and Nia who I haven't spotted in awhile on the right. One is insanely picky if you rate any of these 3 less than a 9 on their best days. But Barbie was perhaps a 10. I just mention her and not maybe 10 other FKK girls because of the easy link some have made to well known Elsa Jean in looks. But I would argue she is or was even hotter. How good they are in the room is personal chemistry and other things, so that is totally different.

  10. #22676
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Hehe, yeah.

    I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.
    Kate who I saw at GT and are with an 8? A 5 in my book if I am nice. There we go.

  11. #22675
    Quote Originally Posted by Ctytek  [View Original Post]
    Bro, You need to stop using this word in every other sentence. It's a weird word to describe prostitutes, and makes you sound like a desperate newb.

    I've frequented FKKs on and off for many years before COVID, and I promise none of the ladies working in those places fit that description even then. Much less so now. Best looking FKK workers is a 7, 7.5 at best. You can keep feeding yourself fantasies that you're screwing 9-10 models, but you're not. And you will never find them at FKKs.
    Hehe, yeah.

    I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.

  12. #22674
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    The quick youtube video I linked gives a good summary though. It doesn't go into detail on the language used, or how the main protagonist got all his info from a guy he talked to who worked for Ingsoc (so everything could have been a lie, and Ingsoc could just be Airstrip 1 (UK). The main point is the media lies. Nor details of room 101 or other things. But as a whole, it's a good summary:

    https://youtu.be/GQxOKXEff4I
    It is called civilian control and I personally think it is very necessarily thing in society because some people need some guidance in life and the world we live in!

    Religions are the first type of civilian control, it is lunatic stories they sell to you, but many people believe it to the extent they wage war about which imaginary figure is better than others basically LOL!

    My religion is the best, mongering is my religion LOL! Stunners pussy, anal, tits and mouth fix a lot of things, the best healing LOL!

  13. #22673
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Yeah ..., well, read my 2021 reports if you must.

    Wait ...!?!?? You just claimed preference for upsell clubs, you battle hardened man! You are really confusing us. LOL!

    You always seemed to be one of the highrollers with preference for expensive things in life to make sure you get the quality you need. And that's ok. If you have the money, go for it. I just hope you are not ending up as a 30 mnts rabbit to save costs. It's not the same thing.

    A funny story from 2021:

    After trying out some expensive clubs in Austria barely getting away with 200 E /60 sessions without annoying hardsell, I went to a club near the Italian border called Wellcum. Guess what, the lineup was even larger og stronger than any of the expensive clubs I had seen in Austria! I just had to try one of the top optics. She performed excellent (save for DFK)! No upsell. Sweaty and fun. 140 E /60. Not believing my luck I had to try a 2nd girl. She was just as hot. She too performed excellent with all old school services (save for DFK). No upsell. 140 E /60. I tried a 3rd girl. And a 4th. And a 5th. Same thing!
    I prefer upsell clubs because that is where I tend to find the girls who are stunner level beauty, I assume stunner go where the money is!

    As for you getting totally ripped off in Austrian FKK, by reading your post, it is your attitude, human skill and also you must get better at your limited negotiation skill, then life won't be that bad in upsell clubs, if not you get what you got, the crazy rates LOL!

    Your last trip to Hamburg was in 2003 ? Well if it is at least 2013, it may count a bit, but if it is 2003 as you wrote then it does not count LOL!

    Get your attitude sorted, increase your communication ability and level up your limited negotiation skill, then the price you pay at upsell clubs like the ones you mentioned will be fair enough and you won't be ripped off like you did LOL! Weak men get eaten for breakfast and taken in advantage like you did in up sell clubs, remember that, but it can be best place if one knows what he is doing LOL!

  14. #22672
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Austria? You talking about Babylon or golden time Vienna?
    Yeah ..., well, read my 2021 reports if you must.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Well, for that price, I stick to globe where it is already upsell price of Germany, but negotiations done for us LOL!
    Wait ...!?!?? You just claimed preference for upsell clubs, you battle hardened man! You are really confusing us. LOL!

    You always seemed to be one of the highrollers with preference for expensive things in life to make sure you get the quality you need. And that's ok. If you have the money, go for it. I just hope you are not ending up as a 30 mnts rabbit to save costs. It's not the same thing.

    A funny story from 2021:

    After trying out some expensive clubs in Austria barely getting away with 200 E /60 sessions without annoying hardsell, I went to a club near the Italian border called Wellcum. Guess what, the lineup was even larger og stronger than any of the expensive clubs I had seen in Austria! I just had to try one of the top optics. She performed excellent (save for DFK)! No upsell. Sweaty and fun. 140 E /60. Not believing my luck I had to try a 2nd girl. She was just as hot. She too performed excellent with all old school services (save for DFK). No upsell. 140 E /60. I tried a 3rd girl. And a 4th. And a 5th. Same thing!

    None of the girls DFK (just soft kisses on the lips), but I knew that before I went there as the Italians have the reputation, falsely or not, that they avoid DFK when enjoying the hobby. Consequently, the clubs around the Italian border attract girls that will not provide this service. On the other hand, Italians have the reputation of enjoying services around other body parts that seem to be the preference of you and Mr. Cane. You know, FIA for free, COB for free, and other "interesting" offers. Just saying ...

    Weird, huh? Paying 140 E for the exact same thing as is quoted 200 E elsewhere. Is that even possible? Am I fooling myself? Leading others on? I bet there is something wrong with me. Please don't take my story too seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    One club I am missing out maybe is atmos Hamburg! I shall be there one day!
    Hamburg, huh? Yeah, been there done that. I hope you find what you are looking for. My last trip was in 2003. I am not going back.

    Fair winds. I wish you an enjoyable trip wherever you decide to go.

    - S16.
    Still singing "Ich kenne ein Land, so reich und so schoen, ..."

  15. #22671
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    If you like upsell clubs, then you are missing out on Austria. I know two clubs that will make Artemis and Palace look like budget clubs. You cannot claim being battle hardened unless you try. LOL!

    Expect to pay 200 E /60 if you want BBBJ / DFK with a popular girl. Do you need some mnts after you have finished? Expect 50 E more ("massage fee"). Did you forget to ask for DATY? Pay 50 E more. Oh, don't you want to CIM? 100 E extra. Do you want anal/rimming? Yeah, imagine the prices. Makes you horny, huh? LOL!

    Going rate seemed to be 200 E /60 for old school services, but expect girls to quote 250- 600 E /60 if you start acting like an amateur. There are also girls quoting 150- 180 E /60, but they are not many and honestly not attractive enough..
    Where is this in Austria? When 70/30 in Wellcum but quite low GFE, 100/30 in GT Vienna but real GFE and on my Mystic discovery, 100/30 for GFE. My experiences. But I have deeper GFE at Gold for 80/60. I really wish I can meet her again after my ski tour.

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