Seeking Arrangements

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis. From an ISG point of view guys on ISG / SA / Seeking. Are probably NOT looking for platonic deals. If they are looking around S. America on SA. They know P4 P is very possible and can, might, should. (we hope) LOL end up with the whole package.

I am not talking platonic. I just posted on another forum that you have to cast a wide net and have a short memory. I will never have a SB who is bad in the sack. I get them in the sack as quick as I can to see if they are SB material or not.

Well that's my current story, flight attendant, perfect English.. blonde, 35 years younger, sex is a natural phenomenon not some negotiating tactic. where do I sign?

If you can find one that can satisfy you, that is the ultimate to me. You said that Seeking was way better than ho sex, and that is something I knew to be true as well. The girl cares about you for money but also likes you.

When you go exclusive, the sex you are having and the intimacy is at a whole new level. The sex I had at the SB level was great but when I went exclusive, it was the next level up. My woman gives me everything she has now, and it is the best sex I have ever had in my life.

Temptation flares a little when my gal is not around but when I am with her, I do not care to be with anyone else. If you feel like you are not missing out on anything when you are with your gal, then I would go for exclusivity. In marriage you are giving up seeing other women and getting nothing in return. With my gal and I suspect with yours, they are going to make sure you are rewarded.

[The Cane]

For all the SA haters out there, be willing to put in a little effort and it will pay dividends.

I'm not a hater. I'm a realist. And as most people who claim to have gained much benefit from the site say, that hasn't come from "a little effort". Not even "a lot" if you ask me. We're talking a "herculean effort" to find a few diamonds buried in stinky shit (Steve's own words). I have better ways to use my time. Now, if one has the money, the time, and a passport then head for over the seas where "tuting" (as Mr. Ho puts it) is legal. Believe this. But don't talk to me about "effort". I worked like a dog at it for three months. Seeking.com won't reap another thin dime of my money to help support their fraud-filled site! No way, no how!

[Mmusic]

I hope any of you with experience from London can give me some good advice?!

As intro; I'm on SA for 4 yrs, most arrangements are in south-east Europe, and occasionally I take women from SE Europe with me on my travels to western Europe. This time I'm thinking of arranging a date in London. So I did some pre-work (yeah, I've read many pages here; from the very first day on SA I practice only 30-days subscription, then I pause (even for 6+ months) since the filtering is a full-time job!) and one of possible dates "shocked me a bit".

She sent me one longer msg. Prt scr attached. And then we moved to Wapp.

So far I had two arrangements in LON, back in 2018 (both dates were very very good experience; Polish girls are / can be crazy)) !) and was 400/350. One was overnight until midday, followed by (after finally house keeping managed to "fix my room) daytime 3+ hrs tea in bar and amazing sex. That was funny stuff to handle the matter one out / another on-hold in bar while "begging" reception to do finally my room!

Out from what I read here, nowadays really are those prices in LON?

To me seems also this gal is pro. Not much texting on SA, she just sent Hi, and then that long text. On Wapp she just asked if I'm in LON, and then "OK see you then" and she sent me also 4 her pics.

One other, from UK around 35 year old, is looking for discreet arrangements but no any mention so far about gift for her. And then is another Australian (as above one), 36 yo with whom we chat in that real mode to get to know each other, before.

Thanks for any of your tips!

* now after I found this tread will try to post more, with some past SA experiences from several dates.

[Bdb013]

To be clear I'm not disagreeing that the vast majority of girls on SA are not worth your time. Absolutely true. But it's also the only place in the US where a 7 or 8 is going to bareback you and sleep over for a few hundred bucks. It just ain't happening any other way!

Would you spend a week mucking out horse shit if there was a 5 carat diamond hidden in there? Some would. Some wouldn't. I am down to muck through all the horseshit in the world to find my diamonds. Think I just found another BTW. We will see.

I have used SA exclusively in the US as well as outside the US. It is hard work to find something really good, but worth the effort in my opinion. I am in my 60's, still enjoy the sport, but find myself wanting more out of it. SA gives me that. I can find a woman who I enjoy spending time with, sexy as hell, can hold a conversation and can shag with the best of them. That holds true in the US and internationally. I have 3 right now I spend my time with, 21,v32 & 39. I have 2 international that we still chat on a regular basis, both still in their early 20's and its been a couple years since I saw them.

For all the SA haters out there, be willing to put in a little effort and it will pay dividends.

[DramaFree11]

I think you have proven what has been well documented in this forum. Seeking is not a suitable platform for landing pussy in the USA. It does however work well in many other countries.

Works great for me in Mexico, I could not be happier. It does work in the states, but takes a lot of work and decent budget.

[Steve 9696]

I totally hear you. I also signed up for a three-months membership. In the US, there are just too many fakes and scams as you said, especially those who initiated chats with me who claimed to be Asians. They are complete scams and I simply ignore them. For those that are not scams, they have what you said "golden pussies" syndrome. Also, many of them are simply obese with photos that are heavily filtered. Anyway, just a lot of low quality inventory in the US. Just my personal opinion, but others may feel differently.

I had much better success outside the US with my recent SA experience in Colombia. Would want to try out the SA girls in SEA in a few months next time. Maybe even try out Germany and Netherlands and do something different besides just touring FKK next time.

To be clear I'm not disagreeing that the vast majority of girls on SA are not worth your time. Absolutely true. But it's also the only place in the US where a 7 or 8 is going to bareback you and sleep over for a few hundred bucks. It just ain't happening any other way!

Would you spend a week mucking out horse shit if there was a 5 carat diamond hidden in there? Some would. Some wouldn't. I am down to muck through all the horseshit in the world to find my diamonds. Think I just found another BTW. We will see.

[The Cane]

Um no. I have to totally disagree with that statement. My POV is completely the opposite! In other countries there are tons of great venues for pussy FKK, Boate, fishbowl, blowjob bar! But for me in USA Seeking is by far the best way.

I think it's 29 girls I've banged on SA in the US. But honestly the number isn't the most important part. It's the quality. I'd say at least ten were amazing women I'd love to see again (and many I did). Best sex of my life is currently underway with a Seeking girl. Amazing bareback with some damn fine and intelligent women. Absolutely.

To each his own. But for me it's a god send.

P.S. Cane. What happened to your home run bareback CIP hottie?

Steve, um I'm sorry but I can't believe anybody who would assert that Seeking is the best way in the United States to get laid by the type the majority of the guys here like the most, which would be slim, attractive, white girls. These are the ones that carry the highest sexual market value for the most men. And the scammers know it. And for this reason, at least in the States, no way in hell is Seeking the best for that kind of hot piece of ass. If it's the hot white girls you seek, then what you're far more likely to find is a fake, flake, fraudster, or scammer. Now, I'm not here to invalidate your experience. But, I won't allow mine to be invalidated either. And as for my "grand slam homerun, bareback, CIP hottie"? We're still an item. Finding her was like finding the proverbial needle in a haystack!

[Ggekko2009]

Well, here is my final report on my experiences using Seeking.com. As you will recall, I signed up for a three-month premium membership, which actually ended a few weeks ago. And to be perfectly honest, I couldn't wait! A big thumbs down to Seeking.com from me! And the reason? Well, at least in the United States, the site is just infested with fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers. It's just overwhelming and totally ruins the experience. It all started out incredibly well for me. Unbelievably well! I Met somebody who fit the bill with barebacking and cumming inside. The whole enchilada. But, it went way downhill from there. So many fake profiles and / or time wasters. The old adage that "if it looks too good to be true it probably is" most certainly applied. I mean, it was so bad that one time when I was looking at new member profiles, there were two profiles side-by-side with the exact same picture, but with different names and totally different geographical locations! Hahaha!

I totally hear you. I also signed up for a three-months membership. In the US, there are just too many fakes and scams as you said, especially those who initiated chats with me who claimed to be Asians. They are complete scams and I simply ignore them. For those that are not scams, they have what you said "golden pussies" syndrome. Also, many of them are simply obese with photos that are heavily filtered. Anyway, just a lot of low quality inventory in the US. Just my personal opinion, but others may feel differently.

I had much better success outside the US with my recent SA experience in Colombia. Would want to try out the SA girls in SEA in a few months next time. Maybe even try out Germany and Netherlands and do something different besides just touring FKK next time.

[Steve 9696]

I think you have proven what has been well documented in this forum. Seeking is not a suitable platform for landing pussy in the USA. It does however work well in many other countries.

Um no. I have to totally disagree with that statement. My POV is completely the opposite! In other countries there are tons of great venues for pussy FKK, Boate, fishbowl, blowjob bar! But for me in USA Seeking is by far the best way.

I think it's 29 girls I've banged on SA in the US. But honestly the number isn't the most important part. It's the quality. I'd say at least ten were amazing women I'd love to see again (and many I did). Best sex of my life is currently underway with a Seeking girl. Amazing bareback with some damn fine and intelligent women. Absolutely.

To each his own. But for me it's a god send.

P.S. Cane. What happened to your home run bareback CIP hottie?

[AsianPursuits]

I signed up for a three-month premium membership, which actually ended a few weeks ago. And to be perfectly honest, I couldn't wait! A big thumbs down to Seeking.com from me! And the reason? Well, at least in the United States, the site is just infested with fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers. It's just overwhelming and totally ruins the experience.

I think you have proven what has been well documented in this forum. Seeking is not a suitable platform for landing pussy in the USA. It does however work well in many other countries.

[DonCarlos1234]

I find your posts helpful and information-rich. I've been sticking my toes in the water at SA but it's SOOO much work and, for the US at least, I just don't find that many visually appealing targets, maybe 5%. Of those maybe one in 10 is not going to have GPS or be a flake yadda yadda. So I'm at a hit rate of about 1 in 200 for even consider a meet up. Compare that to any venue in Brasil or Europe where I find my reject rate at closer to 50 %. It makes the flight worth it.

Strip clubs may be making a comeback. I was at a couple last month and was surprised how open most of the hot ones were to making arrangements outside the club for SA money.

Last trip there (Medellin) the girls at La Isla were off the charts. & most were available. BUT 2 months earlier, all dogs. YMMV I hope someday to see Brazil.

[HarvestBoi]

I find your posts helpful and information-rich. I've been sticking my toes in the water at SA but it's SOOO much work and, for the US at least, I just don't find that many visually appealing targets, maybe 5%. Of those maybe one in 10 is not going to have GPS or be a flake yadda yadda. So I'm at a hit rate of about 1 in 200 for even consider a meet up. Compare that to any venue in Brasil or Europe where I find my reject rate at closer to 50 %. It makes the flight worth it.

Strip clubs may be making a comeback. I was at a couple last month and was surprised how open most of the hot ones were to making arrangements outside the club for SA money.

[DonCarlos1234]

I still do not think that guys really get what sugar babies are. They are an investment in a friendship, and you should care where the money you are giving her is going. That is the daddy part of the sugar daddy relationship, and I take it seriously.

Elvis. From an ISG point of view guys on ISG / SA / Seeking. Are probably NOT looking for platonic deals. If they are looking around S. America on SA. They know P4 P is very possible and can, might, should. (we hope) LOL end up with the whole package. Any "friends with benefits" statements will get you banned on Reddit. I would not last long there. Let's keep that a secret. I guess what I'm saying is very few guys in this subsection on ISG think like those in the USA do. We start out thinking about "friends with benefits" and test the relationship before flying her to the moon. then someone nice comes along.. we can't possibly meet in the USA sex prison. Well that's my current story, flight attendant, perfect English.. blonde, 35 years younger, sex is a natural phenomenon not some negotiating tactic. where do I sign?

[The Cane]

Well, here is my final report on my experiences using Seeking.com. As you will recall, I signed up for a three-month premium membership, which actually ended a few weeks ago. And to be perfectly honest, I couldn't wait! A big thumbs down to Seeking.com from me! And the reason? Well, at least in the United States, the site is just infested with fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers. It's just overwhelming and totally ruins the experience. It all started out incredibly well for me. Unbelievably well! I Met somebody who fit the bill with barebacking and cumming inside. The whole enchilada. But, it went way downhill from there. So many fake profiles and / or time wasters. The old adage that "if it looks too good to be true it probably is" most certainly applied. I mean, it was so bad that one time when I was looking at new member profiles, there were two profiles side-by-side with the exact same picture, but with different names and totally different geographical locations! Hahaha!

Summing it all up, I ended up meeting three girls over my three month "experiment". I could have met at least a couple of more for sure, but I backed out due to distance. They were both like an hour and a half away each, and I just decided it wasn't worth the drive. One of those I'm sure was a straight up prostitute. I asked her about anal, and she said she would try (that means "no" and was just a weak attempt to keep somebody on the hook). Of the three I did meet, one we decided right off the bat to keep it platonic. Another I could have fucked, but although she was cute in her own way, I simply was not "stirred' by her sexually. So, I just never followed up after a nice dinner out with her. And of course, the other was my "grand slam home run" who I wrote about in my very first report. But in the end, simply too much work for too little return. Seeking is out of the question for me going forward, along with the other two "S's". That would be stripclubs and swinging.

Through it all, most people were pretty civil online. Rarely did I run into anybody who was just plain rude. There are a couple I remember though. One was like, "You can't afford me". I responded, "I don't need to" and blocked her. Then one girl I initiated contact with said, "Hard no". How about you "hard gnaw" on these here nuts? LOLOLOL! Then there was one who I just couldn't resist taking a shot at. Going on about her "snarky" self in her profile. I wrote, "Yes, snarky and broke"! LOL! I will say that at least in the American scene, there is a lot of "golden pussy syndrome" you have to put up with too. Women over-valuing the worth of their pussies and expecting you to explain why you're worth their (broke) time. Fuck that! I just have no time for it. What successful monger does? I don't. Stopped putting up with "normal dating" bullshit a very long time ago! One chick told me she liked a "dirty old man" (American attitude). I replied that I like "nasty young women". So it's a match! No seriously, I'm glad I gave Seeking a go. I definitely experienced the highs and the lows of it. But when it's all said and done, it's not for me. It's just too hard to consistently find that which I seek on the site, and I would gather within the sugaring world in general. For this reason, I am out! Congrats to those of you who have found success and love it. From here on out, I'll stick to more classic-style mongering thank you!

[DramaFree11]

Returned from 10 weeks in Colombia. (a few weeks ago) had some travel business & photography planned. But the RAIN was so unpredictable, I switched to meeting (who knows how many) mostly Seeking and a a few other girls. LOL Before I left I booked a return for June 7. Summer in the SW USA can be unbearable. I will probably visit Colombia 2 times but only 2-3 weeks at a time the summer. I made a reservation for up in the mountains near Bogota with my favorite (new) SA girl. She doesn't even act like the rest. Punctual, Hot as F. Doesn't need much $. Maybe I could do an Elvis repeat and go exclusive. Yep. She will travel anywhere with me. Meet anywhere (well no papers yet) I could do worse but I don't think I can do much better. Yet I have all these numbers for girls I have not had time to meet. So sad..

Love your reports. If I was to go back to Colombia, I would be hanging out in Bogota, and the Mountains sound like a nice change from the Texas heat.

When I was in MDE it rained almost everyday for 1-3 hours in the afternoons, and it was Humid as Hell. I guess it was bad timing for me. The weather reminded me of Houston weather, without A. C.