FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[Tintin1]

After the rather thin pickings at Mainhattan, I met a friend at the Palace. We arrived just before 5 to take advantage of the reduced entrance fee (50 instead of 75). Bar had 5-6 guys and equal number of women No 10's but at least one of the ladies was very attractive and we ordered our first drinks. No sooner had we sat than a young highly energetic brunette approached us with an offer for aerobic activities. 70 all in. No mention of time frame. No attempt to upsell any services so my friend asks if I'll be OK on my own and off he went. While he was away I did a small walk through the club and noticed a handful of men hanging out in the wellness area. One girl coming back from a room. Checked out the massage area. 2 masseuses. Both available.

Back in the main area I noticed the girl count is starting to pick up and just inside the bar area entrance sits a MILF in her early 30's. Natural pendulous breasts. Bright smile and curvy. Not my classic type but I go over to say Hello,. (My mom taught me politeness). She asked about my day. Conversation was more open and less transactional. She's from Serbia if I remember. The conversation surprisingly made it around to the topic of sex and she was like whatever you like I'm sure we can arrange. Anal? Yes I enjoy Price 150 (no mention of time) included kissing and covered BJ. 200 uncovered BJ. Now 150 for anal and BJ is a great price. So instead of waiting for my friend to return or even checking out the cute blond across the way I'm 'all in'. In the room we start kissing and she is working her way down my chest to my nipples in the most delightful way so I say maybe we should go for the OW. And she's more amazed that I didn't know that before walking in. She says. Which I actually took as a good sign- that negotiations should be confined to outside and fun times inside. But we got passed this and was I ever glad. Her oral skills were clearly among my top list, even better than the night before at Mainhattan. Top 10? At the moment I'd say I was even thinking top 3 but lets be honest. I'm not really thinking clearly- she is making amazing eye contact and I'm just in heaven. Before things end too quickly I ask her to put on the condom and we're off. After a bit she asks me my favorite anal position or do I want to try a few. Never one to disappoint. We have a great time trying out a few different things and she reminds me to occasionally look in the mirror to see her from different angles. A FUN LADY. Lost track of time. Figured she'd hustle me out but we stayed and chatted for quite a while. Maybe the advantage of a slower night or maybe just a great lady. Back to the bar and my friend is saying goodbye to his first. Tells me she charged 70 GFS. And he's happy.

By about 7 there's three times as many ladies in the building but you never see all of them at any time. Many of the guys are tucked into a corner or still in the wellness area. Dinner starts at 7:30 so it's the debate. One more before dinner or wait til after We opt to wait. There's a darker skinned lady I'm eyeing who claims to be Argentinian. After dinner a blond comes over to remind my friend he told her to come back. I'm thinking he's going to say no and I can get a crack but before I can adjust my robe to cover my excitement off they go! Missed my chance. She was a skinnier Romanian. Instead I decide to book a 45 minute massage and so both of us are having our bodies pampered. Him a bit more tenderly. When my friend is back he reports a vice-like grip that was 'out of this world'. Good oral skills but a bit young and less experienced.

We go for dessert of fresh cut fruit (I knew you wanted to know). We're deep in our conversation on life. Thinking maybe we'll just leave when the Argentinian comes over he has an early meeting in Frankfurt. She reminds me of my promise to take her upstairs but my jet lag is starting to return. My friends eyebrows are doing that 'what about me dance'. So I say. You go enjoy. Boom he's on his way. She has very thin rectangular glasses and is clearly Bulgarian not a Latina, but the illusion is still nice. He later reports she worked very hard, and made him very happy. She was extremely cute. Spent most of her time sitting at the table on the left opposite the bar from where you walk in (along the same side as the entrance- if that helps). Barbara? Maybe?

I'm now doing my last walk around thinking sauna to kill time when a young Romanian girl comes over to bemoan the lack of people. I say I'm too tired to help and she says she'll do all the work. I say I just want to sit and she says. How about sitting in the movie room (pornos) and letting her take care of me. Sadly my friend returns and we have to leave (his car, his rules). But I'm thinking of missed opportunities. I'll return at some point to test out whether this was due to a slow week or as many are saying, Palace is really much better than it used to be.

[Sirioja]

Sad.

Which FRA club has the most German girls?

HH I think before 4 or 5 pm. Daisi was a fresh full natural German on 2021 at Sharks, but not seen on this year. She came from Palace with no more business. Same for Colombian Marta, 185 supermodel Kelli. Ro and Avia.

[Banana Boi]

No German girls.

Sad.

Which FRA club has the most German girls?

[Tintin1]

I get a bit fed up with the majority of skinny "little girl look" at Sharks and I think there are a few more well built ladies at Palace but if the service & upselling is bad I think I would be better off going to Sharks for a day or two.

Any recent reports from Palace would be most welcome as I don't have to make a decision for another two weeks.

Will post my report later today or tomorrow. Just there a few days ago. AND yes fewer girls but prices seemed ok and no one tried to Upsell once we agreed on a price on the bar area. My friend and I tried 5 different girls and all but one were repeatable.

Thin. Thick all different types. More Bulgarians than I remember No German girls.

[Canary]

No covid rules in Hessen now. I heard that the club is recovering slowly.

I will be back to Sharks for my third visit of the year in two & a half weeks time but I'm contemplating visiting Palace the day before too as I've never been. I will be tempted if the weather hasn't improved as Sharks becomes a better club when the weather allows the garden to come into play. Although Palace has no garden I'm attracted to the Kino which I miss from Artemis as Sharks dispensed with theirs years ago.

However from reading reports from this & other websites Palace is recovering very slowly with fewer CDL's than before along with possibly more upselling than even Sharks?

I get a bit fed up with the majority of skinny "little girl look" at Sharks and I think there are a few more well built ladies at Palace but if the service & upselling is bad I think I would be better off going to Sharks for a day or two.

Any recent reports from Palace would be most welcome as I don't have to make a decision for another two weeks.

[Sirioja]

Are there still Covid rules in place (like need to show you've been vaccinated on entry)?

What's the talent like at the moment?

Yes Palace is open but slow business according to girls leaving.

[Mechelen]

No covid rules in Hessen now. I heard that the club is recovering slowly.

[Sebastiane]

Are there still Covid rules in place (like need to show you've been vaccinated on entry)?

What's the talent like at the moment?

[Mr Ho]

Hi,

I would agree with you if the place was full of customers but ask all these girls how their business day was. I am betting many do not even break even on some night.

300 for a full service with a top looking babe would follow the market law of price and offer and O would pay for that. But not for the average ones.

These should stop the price fixing if they want to draw more customers and raise their income.

Being in FKK since 2009 and I never heard girls saying the business is good LOL! Hey all moan and complain, it comes with their sex being women LOL!

However, I have been in the situation I single handly raising their business for a week because I only find one stunner in the club for the whole week, so I go with same stunner for a week till I moved to NRW or flew to globe as penis refugees LOL!

[Sirioja]

150 for 60 is OK. It appears even the locals have caved in from reports ai read here. I hate to spoil the prices for the locals being a tourist and all but if that is prevailing price, so be it.

100 for 30 is a waste of time And money. 75 for 30 is acceptable. My Sessions used to be a mix of 30,60 for the most part and some much longer. Now, 100 is a little much for 30 (which in FKK parlance is really 20 min) or you have to put up with a full hour session (40 to 50 minutes) with a girl who may be mediocre to average. Of course if she was a regular, that is perfectly fine but if you want to try out a bunch of new girls to see who can become regulars, it is a more expensive trial and error process.

Inflation is out of control at the moment and I think 150 for 60 is not too terrible. However, prices became like this even in 2020 itself during those Few brief days and months clubs opened per reports here, ie long before inflation was a real problem. I wonder if these girls will hike the prices to 200 for 60 in the near future in reaction to sustained inflation. Then attendance will really fall, unfortunately. I personally expect Europe to be in some sort of stagflation situation for a while. At some point, more girls hurting for money may show up but it has never been easy to see a clear correlation between # girls and economic circumstances, at least not without a time lag.

No more business at Palace say girls who move elsewhere, even Colombian Marta. Much less tourism is bad for Palace. Germans and locals paid 100/30 and 150/60 under lockdown, so these rates remained. Girls don t want to work for less expensive than before, even if they are not busy.

[Pessimist]

I was yesterday in palace and at 20:00 there were around 20 girls in there. For 5 or 6 customers.

2 or 3 girls belonging to the upper class in my opinion and the rest average.

All bored to death until a few more customers came after the football game.

One thing the club and the girls do not understand is that the times with a lot of business coming from tourist and business men is over and between corona and geopolitical tension / oil price / environmental citizenship / inflation and god knows what. These times will never come back or at least never to the level it was before.

Yet again there seems to be no compromise on entry price at 75 euro after 17:00 and little compromise on the price with girls 100/30 150/60.

50 extra CIM.

100 extra anal.

So one hour full service incl. Anal and CIM would cost you a whopping 300 Euros for one hour?

Seems like the girls (and club?) try to build a cartel and all agreed with each other to these prices. Or I am a bad negotiator despite an OK+ looking guy (All you can get in the price thrown in is kissing and or BJ Natural. Even COB seems to be extra.

For the 2 or 3 upper class girls is the price incl BJ natural and kissing ok I guess but for all others they stay on their stool. Waiting and waiting for most of them..

150 for 60 is OK. It appears even the locals have caved in from reports ai read here. I hate to spoil the prices for the locals being a tourist and all but if that is prevailing price, so be it.

100 for 30 is a waste of time And money. 75 for 30 is acceptable. My Sessions used to be a mix of 30,60 for the most part and some much longer. Now, 100 is a little much for 30 (which in FKK parlance is really 20 min) or you have to put up with a full hour session (40 to 50 minutes) with a girl who may be mediocre to average. Of course if she was a regular, that is perfectly fine but if you want to try out a bunch of new girls to see who can become regulars, it is a more expensive trial and error process.

Inflation is out of control at the moment and I think 150 for 60 is not too terrible. However, prices became like this even in 2020 itself during those Few brief days and months clubs opened per reports here, ie long before inflation was a real problem. I wonder if these girls will hike the prices to 200 for 60 in the near future in reaction to sustained inflation. Then attendance will really fall, unfortunately. I personally expect Europe to be in some sort of stagflation situation for a while. At some point, more girls hurting for money may show up but it has never been easy to see a clear correlation between # girls and economic circumstances, at least not without a time lag.

20 girls in a club as big as Palace sounds pathetic. I'd hate to fly that far and having to endure such a sorry state.

[JAY1973]

That was the price (300 euros) for that amount of time (1 hour) and those services (straight sex with BBBJ / CIM and anal) pre-pandemic. So, it's not a matter of "rona gouging". The biggest impact was the condom law, which was also passed pre-pandemic, resulting in a 50 euro premium for a BBBJ. Otherwise, for the longest time it was 250 euros for said length of time and noted services. If it's any consolation, you would have to pay the 50 euros extra for CIM only if you actually nut in a tute's lips. No nut, no 50 euros! Also, I routinely eat pussy and lick pretty tute butt holes for no extra upcharge. Now, I'm not the kind of guy who needs to be kissing on a tute all the time, but if and when that happens, then it's just a spontaneous thing that occurs between me and the girl for which I never pay extra for either. So look on the bright side. You should be able to enjoy eating pussy, licking ass, and kissing (not necessarily in that order haha) for no extra fee. If the girl tries to charge you for those things, then don't pay and tell her to fuck off. And if you don't nut in her lips during the session, then you don't have to pay for that either LOL! Oh, and I'm usually able to squeeze in some massage too (I bring my own preferred oils). So, you see, you can still get a lot of mileage out of an hour session still!

Hi,

I would agree with you if the place was full of customers but ask all these girls how their business day was. I am betting many do not even break even on some night.

300 for a full service with a top looking babe would follow the market law of price and offer and O would pay for that. But not for the average ones.

These should stop the price fixing if they want to draw more customers and raise their income.

[The Cane]

50 extra CIM. 100 extra anal. So one hour full service incl. Anal and CIM would cost you a whopping 300 Euros for one hour? Seems like the girls (and club?) try to build a cartel and all agreed with each other to these prices. Or I am a bad negotiator despite an OK+ looking guy (all you can get in the price thrown in is kissing and or BJ natural). Even COB seems to be extra.

That was the price (300 euros) for that amount of time (1 hour) and those services (straight sex with BBBJ / CIM and anal) pre-pandemic. So, it's not a matter of "rona gouging". The biggest impact was the condom law, which was also passed pre-pandemic, resulting in a 50 euro premium for a BBBJ. Otherwise, for the longest time it was 250 euros for said length of time and noted services. If it's any consolation, you would have to pay the 50 euros extra for CIM only if you actually nut in a tute's lips. No nut, no 50 euros! Also, I routinely eat pussy and lick pretty tute butt holes for no extra upcharge. Now, I'm not the kind of guy who needs to be kissing on a tute all the time, but if and when that happens, then it's just a spontaneous thing that occurs between me and the girl for which I never pay extra for either. So look on the bright side. You should be able to enjoy eating pussy, licking ass, and kissing (not necessarily in that order haha) for no extra fee. If the girl tries to charge you for those things, then don't pay and tell her to fuck off. And if you don't nut in her lips during the session, then you don't have to pay for that either LOL! Oh, and I'm usually able to squeeze in some massage too (I bring my own preferred oils). So, you see, you can still get a lot of mileage out of an hour session still!

[JAY1973]

I was yesterday in palace and at 20:00 there were around 20 girls in there. For 5 or 6 customers.

2 or 3 girls belonging to the upper class in my opinion and the rest average.

All bored to death until a few more customers came after the football game.

One thing the club and the girls do not understand is that the times with a lot of business coming from tourist and business men is over and between corona and geopolitical tension / oil price / environmental citizenship / inflation and god knows what. These times will never come back or at least never to the level it was before.

Yet again there seems to be no compromise on entry price at 75 euro after 17:00 and little compromise on the price with girls 100/30 150/60.

50 extra CIM.

100 extra anal.

So one hour full service incl. Anal and CIM would cost you a whopping 300 Euros for one hour?

Seems like the girls (and club?) try to build a cartel and all agreed with each other to these prices. Or I am a bad negotiator despite an OK+ looking guy (All you can get in the price thrown in is kissing and or BJ Natural. Even COB seems to be extra.

For the 2 or 3 upper class girls is the price incl BJ natural and kissing ok I guess but for all others they stay on their stool. Waiting and waiting for most of them.

So it seems the laws of offer and demand do not apply in this club.

Yesterday I went with one girl only called Mara. Very pretty face and natural body, good service, with all options from a real professional. (apart from licking which foes not seem to be her cup of tea (Do not get me wrong, Palace is still the club I prefer in terms of layout, size, cleanliness, food choice and style. But in summer times with other clubs offering outdoor pools this will change.

All in all I believe that they and the girls should apply the law of offer and demand in these changing times and end the cartel.

Or stay sitting on their stool with depressing income as customers choose other clubs.

[YodaXxx]

Foreword:

Planned a long-overdue trip to the FKK land last week. Have been to Sharks, Paradise, and Sakura pre-covid, so I wanted to visit several clubs and see how the world of FKK has become in the post-covid era. (I know it's far from over, but it's the closest we'll get within sight.).

Report:

Entered the club at 1715 (just missed the HH), asked for vaccination status but no mask or negative proof required.

About 10-15 girls in the main lounge. Got my free beer from the bar, and sit by myself to gauge the situation. Considering it's Friday evening, the lineup was rather disappointing and the vibe wasn't great. Girls were mostly talking to each other and men minding their own business.

Not a single hottie caught my eye, then I was approached by Tiffany (HU, 27 y), a blondie with natural bees and possibly the hottest girl at the time. Had a decent 10-15 min chat before the business talk began.

Initial offer 100 e /30 m or 150 e /60 m with standard package (BBBJ, DATY, CFS). If I enjoy a girl's company, I usually like to spend one hour or more. Couldn't get the 1 hour rate to drop, so agreed on the standard package with the possibility of 2 pops and kissing.

It was my first visit in Palace, and I wasn't impressed by the room. Lack of the erotic touch.

Start with light kissing with limited tongue, average BBBJ, and not very responsive to DATY. First pop after two positions, followed by a friendly chat. She told me she's actually a mother of two (MILF alert! Which I couldn't tell beforehand. Second round in doggy without me finishing, but I was fine with that. Won't repeat though. 6/10.

Returned to the lounge, and looked like I didn't miss anything.

Headed to get a 30 min massage from a small Thai, which included hot stone treatment that I wasn't expecting. Highly recommended.

A few more girls entered after 2000, but still nothing to my liking despite still feeling horny.

Approached by a brunette (RO, don't recalled her name or age) with nice sees but unattractive face with a small gap in her front-teeth. With no better offer in sight, I settled for a 100 e /30 m session with her. She cum to my DATY, so that's kinda fun. Nothing else memorable apart from that. Won't repeat. 5/10.

Decided to call it quit and left at 2300. Pretty disappointed considering it's Friday, and given the new price tag I wouldn't return unless things improve dramatically.

Moving to Darmstadt next day (report to follow).