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  2. #8160
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    So far, you have made so many contrary arguments about Ukraine and Russia that it is impossible to keep up.

    First, it was either you or one of your idiot rightwingnut pals who suggested that President Biden should have attacked Russian forces before they even invaded Ukraine.

    Next, it was that nobody should give Ukraine any weapons at all and let Putin do whatever he wants. WTF!

    Then you said that the US media should have asked Putin "why" he invaded. The same media that you constantly call out for "fake newZ"? That media? And who would you have believed anyhow? Putin?

    Now you call the "narrative" BS. Really? Which narrative? That Putin and his forces are committing war crimes? That Putin and his forces are intentionally targeting civilians?

    And mentioning Nazis? Yes, the Azov Battalion are far right. They're neo-Nazi's. So what? What they're doing is standing up to protect their homeland first and foremost. It is inconceivable how a rightwingnut like you can support the far-right-white-supremacist groups that took part in the January 6th attempted coup and dis groups like the Azov's who are fighting for their country. Talk about a BS narrative.

    Confused? Of course you are because you are an idiot winger. Tucker has told you how to think and that's how you think. You are just too stupid to see it.
    Just curious how do you plan on enforcing these war crimes? Invading Russia, you liberals are crazy. Maybe, Russia will just hand over all the war criminals, you guys live in a dream world and CNN / The other Hacks feed into your delusion.

    War is hell and unfortunately incident people die. There needs to be a solution to the war quickly, before things get out of hand.

  3. #8159

    Amazing another so called Great Repub crash

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    BTW, not that I expect a coherent answer, but I've got to ask anyway; in this imagined scenario of yours where I supposedly kept silent about it all this time only trot out a post celebrating how brilliant I was to have gotten out of the stock market when Biden was duly elected, when he took office, at the end of last year, yesterday or whatever you dreamed up and thereby dodged the supposed meaningful Bear Market Crash, how on earth would my celebrating such a thing here not tip my hand that I did not have confidence in Biden's handling of the economy, pulling us out of Trump's Great Repub Crash and Recession, etc all along?
    Amazing another so called Great Repub crash is happening again. I wonder why they always happen when we have a democrat president. Biden's high inflation, killing the economy, high gas prices, killing the stock market all qualify for the so called crashes. Biden proving he deserves the title of Worst President Ever! Please bring America back to trump prosperity.

  4. #8158

    Pat Buchanan?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Damn, is Pat Buchanan still alive? Hard to believe he hasn't offed himself after seeing 3 Dem presidents in a row kick the shit out of Reaganomics' historically failed results since Reagan was potus in addition to all 5 of them prior to Reagan becoming potus.

  5. #8157

    Not the same

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    This is very naive, you really think we are not in Ukraine at the moment. We are the once running the show.

    As far, as the stock market, I hope it keeps going, but let's revisit this in 6-12 months, I have my doubts.
    The USA has provided aid of one kind or another for virtually every war since forever. That is not the same as being directly involved militarily.

    True, one big difference this time is that Biden has united more major countries against Trump's boyfriend and presidential campaign contributor while strengthening NATO and Democratic alliances greater than ever before on behalf of democracy and against everything Trump and his boyfriend stood for and tried but failed to accomplish on behalf of anti democratic authoritarian dictatorships.

  6. #8156

    Cheer up, all is not lost

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    What would you do? This war one of the stupidest wars of all times. I guarantee if the money dries, up then there would be a cease fire immediately. We are giving money to one of the most corrupt countries in the world, for what. We are financing this mess and ruining our economy in the process.

    I thought you liberals are against wars.
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  7. #8155

    I see I more than nailed it

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    You are so dumb you thought a one day move relief rally was meaningful. Almost all those gains are gone one day later. I added to my short positions yesterday and was thrilled to get them as cheaply as I was.

    You are a classic Democrat. You buy and sell and then claim you buy and hold like Buffett.

    But outside of that you killed it and are a master investor. Like I said, no one ever loses money on the internet.

    You meant that when you thought the market was going down you did not go short? No, that does not surprise me at all. You are as big an amateur as our president.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...es-back-record

    Just 6 weeks after President Biden unveiled the greatest, most-massive, democracy-saving plan to release millions of barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve into the market to bring down the price of gasoline at the pump for Americans. Which was crushing his approval ratings as the average joe's pocket book is eaten alive by Biden-flation.
    I predicted you wouldn't have a coherent answer to my simple question about your ridiculous, numbskull, imaginary scenario but it turned out you couldn't come up with any answer to it at all. LOL.

    Followed by your usual utterly off point lost and confused blather.

  8. #8154

    Touche Pat

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    So far, you have made so many contrary arguments about Ukraine and Russia that it is impossible to keep up.

    First, it was either you or one of your idiot rightwingnut pals who suggested that President Biden should have attacked Russian forces before they even invaded Ukraine.

    Next, it was that nobody should give Ukraine any weapons at all and let Putin do whatever he wants. WTF!

    Then you said that the US media should have asked Putin "why" he invaded. The same media that you constantly call out for "fake newZ"? That media? And who would you have believed anyhow? Putin?

    Now you call the "narrative" BS. Really? Which narrative? That Putin and his forces are committing war crimes? That Putin and his forces are intentionally targeting civilians?

    And mentioning Nazis? Yes, the Azov Battalion are far right. They're neo-Nazi's. So what? What they're doing is standing up to protect their homeland first and foremost. It is inconceivable how a rightwingnut like you can support the far-right-white-supremacist groups that took part in the January 6th attempted coup and dis groups like the Azov's who are fighting for their country. Talk about a BS narrative..
    https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbucha...04/id/1068443/

  9. #8153

    What would I do?

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    What would you do? This war one of the stupidest wars of all times. I guarantee if the money dries, up then there would be a cease fire immediately. We are giving money to one of the most corrupt countries in the world, for what. We are financing this mess and ruining our economy in the process.

    I thought you liberals are against wars.
    What I would do is exactly what we are doing.

    Is the war stupid? All wars are stupid!

    If the money dried up, there would be an immediate cease fire? Horse puckey! Ukraine is a country. With borders. The only cease-fire that Ukraine should accept is that Russia leaves and that Ukraine's borders go back to pre-2104. At worse, to the borders as they were on January 1, 2022.

    We are financing this mess? Us alone? Again, horse puckey.

    You wingers don't know what you want. If war got you what you wanted, you'd be all for it. If peace got you what you wanted, you'd be all for that, too. If a cease-fire got you what you wanted, you'd be all for that, too. The only thing you really care about is "owning the libs."

    But more importantly, what would you do?

  10. #8152
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    What would you do? This war one of the stupidest wars of all times. I guarantee if the money dries, up then there would be a cease fire immediately. We are giving money to one of the most corrupt countries in the world, for what. We are financing this mess and ruining our economy in the process.

    I thought you liberals are against wars.
    Well they aren't liberals, I used to be a liberal.

    Bubba destroyed liberalism with the 3rd way.

    They are leftists, huge difference.

    They are mostly a bunch of racists obsessed with hating any and everything white!

  11. #8151
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    So far, you have made so many contrary arguments about Ukraine and Russia that it is impossible to keep up.

    First, it was either you or one of your idiot rightwingnut pals who suggested that President Biden should have attacked Russian forces before they even invaded Ukraine.

    Next, it was that nobody should give Ukraine any weapons at all and let Putin do whatever he wants. WTF!

    Then you said that the US media should have asked Putin "why" he invaded. The same media that you constantly call out for "fake newZ"? That media? And who would you have believed anyhow? Putin?

    Now you call the "narrative" BS. Really? Which narrative? That Putin and his forces are committing war crimes? That Putin and his forces are intentionally targeting civilians?

    And mentioning Nazis? Yes, the Azov Battalion are far right. They're neo-Nazi's. So what? What they're doing is standing up to protect their homeland first and foremost. It is inconceivable how a rightwingnut like you can support the far-right-white-supremacist groups that took part in the January 6th attempted coup and dis groups like the Azov's who are fighting for their country. Talk about a BS narrative.

    Confused? Of course you are because you

    are an idiot winger. Tucker has told you how to think and that's how you think. You are just too stupid to see it.
    What would you do? This war one of the stupidest wars of all times. I guarantee if the money dries, up then there would be a cease fire immediately. We are giving money to one of the most corrupt countries in the world, for what. We are financing this mess and ruining our economy in the process.

    I thought you liberals are against wars.

  12. #8150
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    BTW, not that I expect a coherent answer, but I've got to ask anyway; in this imagined scenario of yours where I supposedly kept silent about it all this time only trot out a post celebrating how brilliant I was to have gotten out of the stock market when Biden was duly elected, when he took office, at the end of last year, yesterday or whatever you dreamed up and thereby dodged the supposed meaningful Bear Market Crash how on earth would my celebrating such a thing here not tip my hand that I did not have confidence in Biden's handling of the economy, pulling us out of Trump's Great Repub Crash and Recession, etc all along?
    You are so dumb you thought a one day move relief rally was meaningful. Almost all those gains are gone one day later. I added to my short positions yesterday and was thrilled to get them as cheaply as I was.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Also, I know two dots are too many for you to connect, but if you look back at one of the 4-5 times I told you and everyone else here what I was invested in and that I did not follow a strict "buy and hold" strategy over the decades but moved in and out and back in a couple of fairly well timed occasions to beat a typical winning long term investment "buy and hold" strategy that Buffett already proved kicks the ass of professionally managed portfolios, you will see that I quite clearly admitted my record on that was not perfect and I missed dodging Bush2's second Bear Market decline, the 2008 Mega Bear Crash and Trump's second Bear Market decline, the 2020 Mega Bear Crash
    You are a classic Democrat. You buy and sell and then claim you buy and hold like Buffett.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    it is safe to accurately conclude I lost money in the market those times to whatever extent I still withdrew money from the market to spend and buy things near the bottom those Repub Mega Bear Market Crashes.
    But outside of that you killed it and are a master investor. Like I said, no one ever loses money on the internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Sure, Obama and Biden successfully recovered us from those two Great Repub Mega Bear Market Crashes enough for it not to be a very painful loss. But I can not say those were Crashes that produced a net gain for me.

    Shocked?
    You meant that when you thought the market was going down you did not go short? No, that does not surprise me at all. You are as big an amateur as our president.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...es-back-record

    Just 6 weeks after President Biden unveiled the greatest, most-massive, democracy-saving plan to release millions of barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve into the market to bring down the price of gasoline at the pump for Americans. Which was crushing his approval ratings as the average joe's pocket book is eaten alive by Biden-flation.

    CNN reports that the Biden administration plans to seek bids this fall to buy 60 million barrels of crude oil as the first step in a years-long process aimed at replenishing America's shrinking emergency oil reserve, an Energy Department official said.

    This cunning plan to sell low and buy high has sent oil prices back above $110. And erased any short-term impact on oil prices from Biden's plan.

    Yes, the Biden plan is to sell oil low and buy it high. Sigh.

  13. #8149

    Gee, let's see

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    To a dumb Dem like you, demagoguery are facts that go against the bullshit narrative.

    And now you are supporting the Nazis in Ukraine and against the Soviets / Russian who defeated the Nazis. Talk about demagoguery. Can you dumb Dems tell me who I am supposed to hate or who I am supposed to want go to war with? I am so confused.

    This playbook was literally written in Orwell's 1984, and you are too stupid to see it.
    So far, you have made so many contrary arguments about Ukraine and Russia that it is impossible to keep up.

    First, it was either you or one of your idiot rightwingnut pals who suggested that President Biden should have attacked Russian forces before they even invaded Ukraine.

    Next, it was that nobody should give Ukraine any weapons at all and let Putin do whatever he wants. WTF!

    Then you said that the US media should have asked Putin "why" he invaded. The same media that you constantly call out for "fake newZ"? That media? And who would you have believed anyhow? Putin?

    Now you call the "narrative" BS. Really? Which narrative? That Putin and his forces are committing war crimes? That Putin and his forces are intentionally targeting civilians?

    And mentioning Nazis? Yes, the Azov Battalion are far right. They're neo-Nazi's. So what? What they're doing is standing up to protect their homeland first and foremost. It is inconceivable how a rightwingnut like you can support the far-right-white-supremacist groups that took part in the January 6th attempted coup and dis groups like the Azov's who are fighting for their country. Talk about a BS narrative.

    Confused? Of course you are because you are an idiot winger. Tucker has told you how to think and that's how you think. You are just too stupid to see it.

  14. #8148

    Btw

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    No one ever says that they have lost money on the internet so once the market tanks, I anticipate you will be saying you sold it instead of riding the wave down, but it is worth noting you think the market is a good value here. Your mental capacity and Biden's seem to be one and the same. For you, that is a compliment.
    BTW, not that I expect a coherent answer, but I've got to ask anyway; in this imagined scenario of yours where I supposedly kept silent about it all this time only trot out a post celebrating how brilliant I was to have gotten out of the stock market when Biden was duly elected, when he took office, at the end of last year, yesterday or whatever you dreamed up and thereby dodged the supposed meaningful Bear Market Crash, how on earth would my celebrating such a thing here not tip my hand that I did not have confidence in Biden's handling of the economy, pulling us out of Trump's Great Repub Crash and Recession, etc all along?

    Or had you not thought through your fever dream scenario that far?

    Also, I know two dots are too many for you to connect, but if you look back at one of the 4-5 times I told you and everyone else here what I was invested in and that I did not follow a strict "buy and hold" strategy over the decades but moved in and out and back in a couple of fairly well timed occasions to beat a typical winning long term investment "buy and hold" strategy that Buffett already proved kicks the ass of professionally managed portfolios, you will see that I quite clearly admitted my record on that was not perfect and I missed dodging Bush2's second Bear Market decline, the 2008 Mega Bear Crash and Trump's second Bear Market decline, the 2020 Mega Bear Crash because in both of those cases the rating agencies (Moody's, for example) lies made it impossible to do reliable due diligence or the so-called potus' lies about his Pandemic was not exactly a market fundamental on which one could do reasonable due diligence.

    Uh, to help you connect the two dots I planted there, it is safe to accurately conclude I lost money in the market those times to whatever extent I still withdrew money from the market to spend and buy things near the bottom those Repub Mega Bear Market Crashes.

    So much for your claim that nobody on the internet admits to losing money in the stock market.

    Sure, Obama and Biden successfully recovered us from those two Great Repub Mega Bear Market Crashes enough for it not to be a very painful loss. But I can not say those were Crashes that produced a net gain for me.

    Shocked?

  15. #8147
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Um, the USA military is not engaged in any war with any country anywhere for the first time in decades. Hasn't been for months and months. However, the USA military was last engaged in war for every minute of the Trump presidency, all four years of it.

    But Trump's "brilliant", "smart" boyfriend is engaged in a losing war of his choice. Not helping his economy much either. Didn't Trump tell him what he knew about how war is bad for the economy? Maybe that's why Trump kept the USA military engaged in war throughout his entire presidency since all historical data going back about 100 years shows producing crap economic results appears to be the goal of Repub potuses regardless who their Fed Chairman is and what they do.

    Maybe the Repubs' penchant for appointing / maintaing shitty Fed Chairmen is a function of their consistent goal to produce crap economic results. You could be on to something there.

    Today the S&P 500 Index closed down just 10.75% from its all time record high achieved under Biden, the Wilshire 5000 Index closed down just 11.8% from its all time record high achieved under Biden, both being in low health-restoring Correction territory. The Dow, your favorite, closed down just 7. 8% from its all time record high achieved under Biden and that is merely in single digit sell-off territory..
    This is very naive, you really think we are not in Ukraine at the moment. We are the once running the show.

    As far, as the stock market, I hope it keeps going, but let's revisit this in 6-12 months, I have my doubts.

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