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  1. #50944
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel071  [View Original Post]
    How do the girls compare in Thailand, Phillipines, Cambodia, etc. ? Is there a country where women are more open to BBFSCIP? I read the other forums and it looks like Phillipines girls are more deparate and open to BBFSCIP. Would love to hear a comparison from someone who has been.
    Yes, the chances for bareback sex with Filipinas is higher than with Thais from my experience. With Filipinas I would say with 90% you can do CIP. With Thais, some insist to use a condom but you can persuade them to cum outside, the chances are 60-70% for bareback sex. But there are still some prostitutes like ladyboys who will insist to use a condom, no matter what. But at least BBBJ is standard with all of them. I heard that bareback sex is also pretty common in Cambodia. It has not so much to do with desperation, but with the education, cultural background of the country and how important hygiene is for the women.

  2. #50943
    How do the girls compare in Thailand, Phillipines, Cambodia, etc. ? Is there a country where women are more open to BBFSCIP? I read the other forums and it looks like Phillipines girls are more deparate and open to BBFSCIP. Would love to hear a comparison from someone who has been.

  3. #50942
    Quote Originally Posted by MamaGuevos  [View Original Post]
    And, are the addresses on the site (which are in Thai) detailed enough to show a taxi driver to arrive at the girls place?
    Use the Grab Taxi app. You enter the destination and the driver will take you there, no need to talk to him. You should be able to cut / copy and paste the address and enter it into the app.

  4. #50941
    Quote Originally Posted by AmPervert  [View Original Post]
    Any nightlife out there Breadman? Good food? You are a hardcore monger. lol
    Its very Thai out there so every 100 feet is great food LOL.

  5. #50940
    Any nightlife out there Breadman? Good food? You are a hardcore monger. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    ...I was staying at Asia Resort, a barely 2nd class level of hotels (3 buildings, a condo named Anna condo within walking distance) and I had roughly 60 girls on my list to choose from. .....

  6. #50939
    Thanks EihTooms. Been there. Not as sexy as the old location but the same women. Glad to hear it is still open.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    It is still open under the new name Duangporon Massage or Duangporn Haven, not sure, in the new location around the corner from Sukhumvit more or less across from where Soi 16 begins and down that driveway. Probably opens in the afternoon.

  7. #50938
    Pre Covid, taxis were 250-300 baht on the meter to Nana Plaza. You have to tell them meter only before you get in the car. Sometimes you have to repeat it when they act like they don't understand. The guys are usually nice so I tip another 200 baht. It is till cheaper than the 1200 they are trying to charge which is illegal.

    I try to book the earlier Korean Air flight and just take the public train.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anyuta  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the reply.

    Yeah,

    You are rght.

    Taxi seems to be a better alternative as we are 3 friends travelling.

    God bless.

  8. #50937
    Quote Originally Posted by MamaGuevos  [View Original Post]
    This looks like a nice strategy, as one can always go out and about from where ever your hotel is. But I have two simple strategic questions. When one goes to the site and opens Line using the QR code, do you communicate in English? Or do you need to translate into Thai to arrange an appointment? And, are the addresses on the site (which are in Thai) detailed enough to show a taxi driver to arrive at the girls place? I have been in BKK before where the taxi driver was clueless about where I wanted to go. And, not all drivers know how to read Thai or speak basic English.
    Well for one the hotel these girls are using will be nowhere near where a tourist hotel will be, they use dirt cheap and sometimes a bit run down hotels. Hotels that if it wasn't for the girls would most likely go out of business so those hotels look a blind eye towards all of them men just casually walking to the elevators for an hour and then leaving.

    When you open LINE the girls photos usually pop up along with the hotels name. Remember your not talking to the girl, your talking to the agent who somehow has all of his girls chats going at once. If the agent allows foreigners they'll chat with you in English, if they don't you'll either get no response or a 'sorry today isn't a good day' response. Now if you don't show your photo in your LINE profile photo all bets are off as to what might happen when you get to the girls room. First thing you should ask when chatting is say something like 'I am a foreigner and would like to see so and so'. The girl has to chat with the agent after you come in and give her the money (before the action). If she doesn't send a chat or respond to the agents messages there will most likely be guests coming into the room.

    There are now apps to get you to the hotel. Bolt and grab. Simply type in the name of the hotel and order the car or motorbike. You'll want to use the BTS or MRT to get closer to the location, if your stuck in traffic they won't hold your appointment for you.

  9. #50936

    FIWFANS Question

    Not sure if its a translation issue but on some of the reviews and posts it mentions "little brother" is that in reference to a Ladyboy situation or just a translation error?

  10. #50935

    Fiwfans strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Did three girls today for around what a gogo girl is asking for short time. First one was an absolute stunner, if she worked in a gogo and showed off her body in any way she would be getting 6000 baht for ST and guys would be lining up to pay. Was time for the second girl on fiwfan but then I started running into a bit of farang racism, the agency wouldn't even respond to my LINE chats. Then it happened again with another agency and a few who said they were working for themselves. But I managed to see my 2nd girl and she was one of the best BJ queens I've had lately, just working with all of her might. I then tried seeing the first girl again but was told 'all full today'. So I'm thinking not another agency blacklisting me? But after asking about tomorrow they said 'ohh just chat me tomorrow'. Best of all is the first girls location. Across the hall from me. Third girl was also very attractive, bit on the long and slender side but a fantastic body.

    So this is an interesting idea that I came up with when I first started doing research on fiwfan. Instead of traveling to the girl and arriving without energy why not stay in or near the hotels that they are using. Two days now and so far things are going pretty good. It is boring though, just chilling in your room and doing a girl every few hours. But it is a unique experience getting scrubbed down by a hottie, having some fun and then back in your room relaxing.
    This looks like a nice strategy, as one can always go out and about from where ever your hotel is.

    But I have two simple strategic questions. When one goes to the site and opens Line using the QR code, do you communicate in English? Or do you need to translate into Thai to arrange an appointment?

    And, are the addresses on the site (which are in Thai) detailed enough to show a taxi driver to arrive at the girls place?

    I have been in BKK before where the taxi driver was clueless about where I wanted to go. And, not all drivers know how to read Thai or speak basic English.

  11. #50934
    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    If you travel light as I try to do, you can cross the road at the Jomtien bus station and hop a baht bus to Pattaya for B10. The taxi from Jomtien to Pattaya is expensive. I paid (forget exactly) B200 or B300 to get to Avenue Mall from Jomtien by taxi. This was pre pandemic.
    Yeah, or a motorbike taxi for maybe 50 baht will do too.

  12. #50933

    A difference

    Quote Originally Posted by TourduMonde  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for all the posts and info before my trip. I don't have lots to report about the scene in BKK that hasn't already been posted (though I will also post something useful in the Krabi thread).

    I paired up with a farm girl on Thai Friendly on my first day. Just before sex she asked how much I would "tip" and I agreed but didn't specify an amount, I just said "enough" and I later gave her 2 K (this was for ST BBFS-CIP). Basically after that she was on a per-date rate of 2 K. In some cases the "date" was a full 24 h touring the city and with lots of sex but still 2 K per day. She wanted even more sex than I did myself. I think it helped she was not half my age or something like that (me forty-something, her thirty-something). We didn't get any hassle from hotels about IDing her or her using hotel facilities as she could credibly be my girlfriend. And she basically was my girlfriend for that time although she was on the payroll and I had a break in the middle when I went to the south without her.

    The only relevant thing to add is that from her point of view, there is also a female equivalent of the condom paradox. Like we can't get but would love to have BBFS from girls who use condoms with all the other guys, but we are not so keen on BBFS with girls who will BBFS with anybody. She says the same, like guys offer her 5 K baht in TF messenger for BBFS and she always says no, because she knows that half of Sukhumvit would say yes. Whereas in my case, I didn't mention condoms, treated it like a normal date and did a load of DATY before entering, and she didn't mention them either. The paradox is that it's ok to give BBFS-CIP to guys who don't seem to really need BBFS. So I really respect EihTooms posts on BBFS but at least in my particular situation with this particular girl (close-in-age, "amateur") the "go with the flow" strategy worked for me. It didn't work with a bargirl in the south though. A least, wearing an "erection-killer" is ok for me if I've take sildenafil before, I just bang longer. That isn't everyone's experience so negotiating in advance may be best for others..
    Thanks for the report. And I must say the outcome for the girl you spent most of your time and money on for good reason is essentially the same outcome many girls hope for as I described in a recent post on the subject that got moved to the Rants, etc thread (post #1999 and #2000).

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...us-in-Thailand

    The difference is your take on her easily providing BBFS+CIP from the beginning without a discussion about condoms was, perhaps according to her as well, because she didn't think you "really need BBFS" whereas the scenario some of my fellow punters use to get BBFS+CIP so easily is to play on and project an image of a man who simply "doesn't get BBFS+CIP" very often it at all from girls at home and abroad.

    Their strategy is only "go with the flow" in so much as it fits the low expectations, little sexual experience, lonely guy image they want to project.

    They don't want or try to project an image of a man who "doesn't really need BBFS" because then the girl could easily conclude as long as it doesn't matter to him and his dick if it is wrapped in a condom or not, why not slip one on every time to further protect against pregnancy and STIs just in case.

    Which would not be a thought they want to plant in their girl's head.

    It should also be mentioned that the 360 baht cost of your Crazy House girl's Lady Drink (s) was not a Lady Drink that cost double what your drink cost. She ordered two Lady Drinks at once, a tequila shot and a coke. That is a common scam pulled in many if not most bars these days, especially in Crazy House. But I suppose it is only a true scam if the girl orders it without first asking you if she can get a "tequila and coke."

  13. #50932

    Trip report

    Thanks for all the posts and info before my trip. I don't have lots to report about the scene in BKK that hasn't already been posted (though I will also post something useful in the Krabi thread).

    I paired up with a farm girl on Thai Friendly on my first day. Just before sex she asked how much I would "tip" and I agreed but didn't specify an amount, I just said "enough" and I later gave her 2 K (this was for ST BBFS-CIP). Basically after that she was on a per-date rate of 2 K. In some cases the "date" was a full 24 h touring the city and with lots of sex but still 2 K per day. She wanted even more sex than I did myself. I think it helped she was not half my age or something like that (me forty-something, her thirty-something). We didn't get any hassle from hotels about IDing her or her using hotel facilities as she could credibly be my girlfriend. And she basically was my girlfriend for that time although she was on the payroll and I had a break in the middle when I went to the south without her.

    The only relevant thing to add is that from her point of view, there is also a female equivalent of the condom paradox. Like we can't get but would love to have BBFS from girls who use condoms with all the other guys, but we are not so keen on BBFS with girls who will BBFS with anybody. She says the same, like guys offer her 5 K baht in TF messenger for BBFS and she always says no, because she knows that half of Sukhumvit would say yes. Whereas in my case, I didn't mention condoms, treated it like a normal date and did a load of DATY before entering, and she didn't mention them either. The paradox is that it's ok to give BBFS-CIP to guys who don't seem to really need BBFS. So I really respect EihTooms posts on BBFS but at least in my particular situation with this particular girl (close-in-age, "amateur") the "go with the flow" strategy worked for me. It didn't work with a bargirl in the south though. A least, wearing an "erection-killer" is ok for me if I've take sildenafil before, I just bang longer. That isn't everyone's experience so negotiating in advance may be best for others.

    Speaking of sildenafil. I went with Sidegra from Foodland (Soi 5) and Southeast Pharmacy (Sukhumvit Road near Soi 15). Both times it worked great. Foodland was a better price though at 120 thb for 4 x 50 MG versus 200 thb at southeast. I got a pill cutter (from a different pharmacy, googled pictures and showed) to chop the 50 MG to 25 MG.

    I was also upstairs in Crazy House. Our drinks 180, lady drinks 360 (or rather 180+180 as tequila and coke, but I'm fine with a lady-drink costing double a man-drink), for which the girl makes out pretty much without limit. Was quoted 700 BF plus 3000ST but didn't take it. Other than that, I mostly was with the TF girl. I did not even enter Nana Plaza, or a blowjob bar or a soapie, so not the BKK experience I expected but it was still great.

  14. #50931

    From Jomtien Bus Station to Pattaya

    Quote Originally Posted by LookingLooking  [View Original Post]
    It was operating all this while.

    But they removed usual favourite stop in Pattaya. Instead, it only stops at Jomtien bus station now.

    Just take a taxi from Jomtien bus station, 10 min to arrive at central Pattaya.
    If you travel light as I try to do, you can cross the road at the Jomtien bus station and hop a baht bus to Pattaya for B10. The taxi from Jomtien to Pattaya is expensive. I paid (forget exactly) B200 or B300 to get to Avenue Mall from Jomtien by taxi. This was pre pandemic.

  15. #50930
    Quote Originally Posted by LookingLooking  [View Original Post]
    It was operating all this while.

    But they removed usual favourite stop in Pattaya. Instead, it only stops at Jomtien bus station now.

    Just take a taxi from Jomtien bus station, 10 min to arrive at central Pattaya.
    Thanks for the update.

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