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  1. #15992

    Facts, not opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Muzungufotsy  [View Original Post]
    Can somebody confirm where does the difference of price between 680 k and 1040 k come from? Looks like you got scammed. You should have asked and check your bill.

    I never heard of room charge in any other place. If I m quoted 300 for a girl I pay 300 and room is always included.

    Second nobody forces you to give tip. You give if deserved and if you want to. Mamasan wants a tip? For what? For doing her job. You are afraid to say no? She s paid for that. Asking to pay for condom is also ridiculous.
    What makes you think that the OP got scammed? I think the facts need to be straightened here given that other people read these posts and they need to get this information right about Malio.

    1) The girls in Malio are grouped based on tiers based on looks, popularities and nationalities. The higher tier group charges more and the imports are always in the highest tier. Their prices are based on which tier the girls are in.

    2) The room charge is always separate. One can opt for a more luxurious VIP room at a higher price.

    3) OP is talking about tipping the girl whom he had sex with, not the mamasan. Don't have to tip the Mamasan or even those service boys who would occasionally ask for tips. But I would recommend tipping the girls since they depend on these tips. Don't need to be a cheap charlie.

    4) Sure, check your bill before paying and ask for clarification if needed. But, please don't act like an ass in those establishment. The place is not cheap in comparison, but it is not in their interest to cheat you and they need repeat business. These places are run by mafias and they pay a lot of money to the police and politicians for protection and other access. Don't think for a second they would not try to rough you up if you don't want to pay because you are foreigner and act like you know best.

  2. #15991
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    Also, if you don't like the girl when in the room, you can tell them over in the room phone that you want to exchange the girl. The caveat is that this has to be done before the girl undresses. Never tried that, but that was what I had been told in the past.
    I would say as long as you didn't have sex you can exchange the girl because usually surprise happens when the girl takes her clothes off. With clothes they all look great without it s another story. Asking if she had a baby beforehand limits bad surprises. Bringing a condom is a tip we all use to avoid BS charge. Even if we show the same one every time LOL.

  3. #15990
    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    Gents,

    This was my first experiences at Malioboro Spa (Malio). I will like to share since some of you might be new and wanted to details what I went thru. Overall good experiences.

    I went to Malio on a Sunday afternoon around 4 pm (I know its too early, but I don't like monger late at night). It seems to be in a fairly safe location. About 5-10 min moto ride from Plaza Indonesia and across street from few 4-star hotels (Harris and Mercure). So overall feels safe.

    On the outside, the hotel looks quite run down, but when you walk its brightly lighted 3-star hotel. First you walks up to the counter and they give you a locker key with number. This will used for billing purpose. Then you take elevator to the 2 (or 3?) floor. There is another counter that will direct you to a big lounge (BAR) area. I am not sure if this is the night club. There were a lot of tables, chairs, banquet seats and I think there was a small stage. Since it was my first time, I didn't want to stay too long. Maybe 10-15% full..
    Can somebody confirm where does the difference of price between 680 k and 1040 k come from? Looks like you got scammed. You should have asked and check your bill.

    I never heard of room charge in any other place. If I m quoted 300 for a girl I pay 300 and room is always included.

    Second nobody forces you to give tip. You give if deserved and if you want to. Mamasan wants a tip? For what? For doing her job. You are afraid to say no? She s paid for that. Asking to pay for condom is also ridiculous.

  4. #15989

    Excellent!

    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    Gents,

    This was my first experiences at Malioboro Spa (Malio). I will like to share since some of you might be new and wanted to details what I went thru. Overall good experiences...
    Thanks for writing this report. I mongered in Jakarta twice but never made it to Malio. I hope to remedy that next time I make it to Jakarta.

  5. #15988

    Girls depend on Tips

    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]

    Questions for group ==.

    Does anyone have advices about how much to tip?

    Is there an actual spa with bath, hot cold pool, showers?

    Did I miss anything from the 'malio' experience?

    I thought there is a dance floor. Is there?

    Thank and hope this helps any newbie out there.

    Onward.
    Here's my experience but it was pre-covid.

    Girls there do depend on tips. Their commission from the establishment is not much. It's up to you how much you want to give. I usually give 300 K if the service is good and more if she provides extra service. If you do not have enough cash, I think you can add those tip into a "post survey" form and indicate to the girl that. Not sure if you see that kind of form this time. It is usually to help those who don't carry cash with them and they can just pay it with the credit card upon check out.

    I would usually bring my condom and show it to them so that they will not force me to buy their overpriced condom. Whether you get to use it or not depends on the rapport between you and the girl. The girls needs to "broadcast" that they went into the room with these condoms, otherwise they are going to be chastised based on past accounts from the girls that I know there.

    Also, if you don't like the girl when in the room, you can tell them over in the room phone that you want to exchange the girl. The caveat is that this has to be done before the girl undresses. Never tried that, but that was what I had been told in the past.

  6. #15987

    First time at Malio Hotel / Spa / Experience

    Gents,

    This was my first experiences at Malioboro Spa (Malio). I will like to share since some of you might be new and wanted to details what I went thru. Overall good experiences.

    I went to Malio on a Sunday afternoon around 4 pm (I know its too early, but I don't like monger late at night). It seems to be in a fairly safe location. About 5-10 min moto ride from Plaza Indonesia and across street from few 4-star hotels (Harris and Mercure). So overall feels safe.

    On the outside, the hotel looks quite run down, but when you walk its brightly lighted 3-star hotel. First you walks up to the counter and they give you a locker key with number. This will used for billing purpose. Then you take elevator to the 2 (or 3?) floor. There is another counter that will direct you to a big lounge (BAR) area. I am not sure if this is the night club. There were a lot of tables, chairs, banquet seats and I think there was a small stage. Since it was my first time, I didn't want to stay too long. Maybe 10-15% full.

    Mamasan will come and ask if you want drink and try to talk to you. I didn't have much time, so I just ask to see ladies. The showed me a price list with different levels. It was something like Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Something else. Each with the prices. I don't remembers exactly, prices but bronze was 680 K and top class was 2.8 M. The higher you go, better looking and foreign girls. I think Bronze to Gold was local Indonesian girl and higher levels were Vietnam, Uzbek, maybe some other white girl.

    Since I didn't have much cash on me, I asked for local girl. She showed me 6 girls. They were probably 6-7's at best. Nothing ugly, but not hot Indonesia beauties. I chose the best of the lot #587. Then sat us at table and ask if I want drink. I said no I need to go, so #587 took my hand and walked me out of bar area. Mamasan asked for tip. I didn't know what to do, so I gave her 50 k.

    Girl takes you to that same counter (outside bar) and does some paperwork. Then I had to buy a condom for 28 K. Dumb.

    Then girl take me on elevator to floor with rooms. The room was quite clean, but typical brothel room (maybe I can pay for better room)? Has shower and bed, no window.

    Then its standard brothel experience. Shower, light massage, BBBJ, FS. Was fun, didn't feel very mechanical. But to be honest I no very excited about her. I had one hour total with her. Mostly massage and shower. She reminded me of a Geylang girl. Average looks, but looks good in heels and pushup bras. When it comes off, not so hot.

    After, she asked for cash tip. I didn't know what to do (I should have read forms) So I gave her 100 K. She seem mad, but I didn't have enough cash and didn't know how much final bill will be.

    Then she take me back to lounge area. I didn't want to stay, so I went back down to 1st floor lobby to check out.

    Here I gave back my locker key. And my total price was 1,040 K. Which I guess was price of girl and room for one hour.

    As I was leaving security guard was nice and got me Blue Bird taxi. But then also asked for tip. I only have him 10 K.

    Taxi took me home no problems. Sometimes taxi when pick up men at brothel, can be shady.

    Overall. I had a good experience, nice facilities and I might try to go back if Seeking doesn't work for me (some seeking girls are insanely expensive). Realize I should go back to Malio in evening for better selection and not be so timid. I should try to enjoy more. I think there are probably more beauties available. Maybe I spend more money and find better selection in evening.

    Questions for group ==.

    Does anyone have advices about how much to tip?

    Is there an actual spa with bath, hot cold pool, showers?

    Did I miss anything from the 'malio' experience?

    I thought there is a dance floor. Is there?

    Thank and hope this helps any newbie out there.

    Onward.

  7. #15986
    I haven't heard any talk about it being demolished anytime soon but it for sure will be eventually. But the place get raided once in a while, last time just before the start of Ramadan.

    I prefer the bars below the rail, as they have a few bars that actually have rooms with basic toilet inside. Most bars only have rooms without toilet. In general most rooms only have a filthy mattress inside. So I don't visit very often, most times just to have a beer since I live close by.

    Classic.

    Quote Originally Posted by KeenGerle  [View Original Post]
    Awesome and can confirm that I saw more last night (not as great as before but getting a bit better). Still a surreal experience with running over the dark train tracks, occasionally a train passes by (so everyone is rushing of the tracks) and backing a chick on a dirty mattress while a train passes by.

    Still not as "strange" as the old places where chicken were running around but still crazy: the.

    Only concern are the news of having everything demolished. After seeing what they have done with Kalijodo and the new international stadium. So probably best to "use" such places before they will disappear.

  8. #15985
    Yes it is safe. Haven't been to any bars or establishments in Jakarta where it wasn't safe. Generally Jakarta is a very safe city.

    Classic.

    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    Thanks boss. That makes sense. Is Fortune safe for foreigners? Looks quite sketchy from the outside. But maybe because its dead quiets right now.

  9. #15984
    Quote Originally Posted by KingFish7140  [View Original Post]
    Very sure- both Grand Wijaya and Pondok Indah have been open for months. A few days ago would be in the Lebaran range and explain being closed at present.
    Thanks boss. That makes sense. Is Fortune safe for foreigners? Looks quite sketchy from the outside. But maybe because its dead quiets right now.

  10. #15983
    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    Are you sure? I walked by Fortune Spa a few days ago and it was dead.
    Very sure- both Grand Wijaya and Pondok Indah have been open for months. A few days ago would be in the Lebaran range and explain being closed at present.

  11. #15982
    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    Gents,

    I flew into Jakarta last week through Hong Kong. Was a bit worried about the new immigration process, but The process was quite easy.

    After getting offs the plane, you go through a series of stations. I have Canadian passport.

    First they make you download an app (check online, its easy to find. I can't think of name now) and verify that you had two COVID test. I did this before my flights and uploaded my certs of jabs onto the app.

    Then they will do a document check where you need COVID PCR-RT test 48 hours before your first departure.

    Next Station is to pay for your Visa on Arrival (check your country if on list).

    Then they check your passport and ultimately stamps the passport.

    Pretty straight forward. When I lands, not many crowds so very fast. Less than 10 minutes, which is very rare for Indonesia.
    Still too many BS requirements if you ask me specially comparing to many countries who drop everything and are back to normal. Indo is far from being back to normal and once in the country still masks on and show your phone like a puppet wherever you go pffff no thanks.

  12. #15981
    Quote Originally Posted by CodeName47  [View Original Post]
    I guess your information seems to be still wrong. From the Australian smart traveller website.

    Still current at:04 May 2022.

    Updated:30 April 2022.

    Latest update: To travel to Indonesia, you must be vaccinated with at least 2 COVID-19 vaccine doses. You must also provide evidence of a COVID-19 (PCR) test taken within 48 hours of departure to Indonesia.
    https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/w...tional-travel/

    Yes same thing I read.

  13. #15980
    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    Gents,

    I flew into Jakarta last week through Hong Kong. Was a bit worried about the new immigration process, but The process was quite easy.

    After getting offs the plane, you go through a series of stations. I have Canadian passport.

    First they make you download an app (check online, its easy to find. I can't think of name now) and verify that you had two COVID test. I did this before my flights and uploaded my certs of jabs onto the app.

    Then they will do a document check where you need COVID PCR-RT test 48 hours before your first departure.

    Next Station is to pay for your Visa on Arrival (check your country if on list).

    Then they check your passport and ultimately stamps the passport.

    Pretty straight forward. When I lands, not many crowds so very fast. Less than 10 minutes, which is very rare for Indonesia.
    This is exactly what I wanted to see here. Experiences matters a lot. I am prepared now.

  14. #15979
    Quote Originally Posted by KingFish7140  [View Original Post]
    I can report that Fortune Spa in Grand Wijaya and Pondok Indah is operating although with a new format. You pay 1. 9 or 2. 3 depending on the sort of girl you choose for all in for two hours. No tips according to the girls at the desk. This is very expensive, but is what it is.

    Does anyone know he status of places like Delta Spa and My Place? I'm thinking My Place is done. Rizz spa in Pondok Indah is for sure dead as is Delta Pondok Indah. I really hope Delta is not defunct. I know hey are not really monger places, but are great for a lazy Sunday.
    Are you sure? I walked by Fortune Spa a few days ago and it was dead.

  15. #15978
    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    Gents,

    I flew into Jakarta last week through Hong Kong. Was a bit worried about the new immigration process, but The process was quite easy.

    After getting offs the plane, you go through a series of stations. I have Canadian passport.

    First they make you download an app (check online, its easy to find. I can't think of name now) and verify that you had two COVID test. I did this before my flights and uploaded my certs of jabs onto the app.

    Then they will do a document check where you need COVID PCR-RT test 48 hours before your first departure.

    Next Station is to pay for your Visa on Arrival (check your country if on list).

    Then they check your passport and ultimately stamps the passport..
    Same with my experience on Tuesday. Nobody cared about the app at all. When asked for vaccination status at a mall yesterday, I just showed my international vaccination certificate.

    Was really easy. Only annoying surprise I had was that a return ticket was requested (which I didn't book at that point of time). So I had to book a return ticket instantly to be able to board the flight. When pushing back on the requirement, the airline said that it relates with Visa on Arrival. Who knows. Just as a heads-up for those that are more flexible and don't book return tickets like me.

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