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05-19-22 15:45 #33561
Posts: 5652Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
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05-19-22 14:48 #33560
Posts: 1908And another thing
Also important for a prospective monger to understand is that Sosua, like all tourist destinations, has peak and slow seasons.
The high season runs from November to the end of May, peaking in December and again in Superbowl week. Hotels, bars. Restaurants and chica's take advantage of that and charge their highest prices.
June through October is the summer doldrums, it gets hot, sticky and rainy. The good news is that you can negotiate hotel room prices, and chica prices come down. The bad news is there's slim pickings, and you'll only find the hard core chica's working the streets and beach, not a lot of choice, unless you are connected.
That's the time when DC and other dating apps can be useful.
It "dies" every year and "revives" every year.
Something to keep in mind when planning a trip, or even reading a monger report.
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05-18-22 19:32 #33559
Posts: 1984The Puta Hierarchy in The Sue and other places in the Dominican Republic
Originally Posted by Oakie [View Original Post]
Problem is hierarchy: "A hierarchy is a system of organizing people into different ranks or levels of importance, for example in society or in a company. " Different ranks or levels of importance, let's take a hard look at that. For the uninitiated that can lead one to think if you move up the Puta Hierarchy rank and price, your experience will improve. With putas, the Puta Hierarchy is only related to what they ask you to pay them.
I have found in The Sue and other places in the Dominican Republic that the amount that you pay can be completely unrelated to the quality of social / sexual services you receive. And this is based on my personal experiences. So, buy "eye candy" if you like if that is your thing gentlemen. If you like it, I love it! I personally prefer a 6 who fucks like a 10, rather than a 10 that fucks like a 6. And you are going to pay more for the 10.
This is SubCmdr and I am a man in the arena.
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05-18-22 12:29 #33558
Posts: 1908More random thoughts on Sosua
There's a puta hierarchy.
Street Chicas.
Street chicas as those who sell their services on the street and beaches to casual tourists. There are some rare newbie gems to be had when old experienced hookers bring a fresh one to town. But you have to act quick if she's strolling past your post up point. She likely won't make it past the corner. Might not see her again. No game needed. Going rate 1500-3000.
Part Timers.
Have day jobs, constantly get hit on, so they get to choose their clients. Part of the local community, so wouldn't be seen on the street soliciting. A little game needed. Going rate 3000-5000.
High End.
So, what is high end? Think steak and lobster vs rice and beans. It's all food. But to me it means a body and face (and hair and ass) that wouldn't be out of place in Victoria's Secret, or a Miss Universe contest. No game needed, just money. But you need to be connected to their scene. Going rate 5000 and up.
Game.
Good hygiene, grooming, pleasant personality helps. No need to lie. It's legal, so keep it a straight legal business deal.
Tipping.
Most tourists tip, so a propina has become expected. But you are not under any obligation to tip. If you don't tip, just remember to take your phone, sunglasses, keys with you when you leave. If you go back looking for them, you might be faced with a blank stare and a head shake.
And never get into an argument with staff that serve and prepare your food and drink. They have ways of getting even, I'm told.
General.
Never carry too much money. ATM's are within walking distance. Lock up your valuables, so you won't be that guy complaining about being ripped off.
And if you are not enjoying your time there, you are just in the wrong place for you. Move on.
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05-15-22 10:13 #33557
Posts: 1908Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
It's always good to see a positive report on the finer points of Sosua! LOL.
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05-15-22 02:33 #33556
Posts: 1984An open letter to Oakie
To my fellow ISG Brother.
You need to stop playing. The disagreement has never been about the qualities of Sosua as a vacation spot. It has always been because you don't agree with the choices I have made in comparison to yours as we live on different coasts of the same island. Search my posts and find the one that says it is not worth visiting The Sue. You won't find one. I have always taken the position that The Sue is a great place to visit. But I would not want to live there. That was almost 8 years ago.
Now, I have been to The Sue four times since I have been living on this island. And I can tell you more than a couple of factors have played into my re-evaluation of The Sue as a place to visit and to live. I have made three trips to The Sue with people. And one (the longest one I might add) by myself. Two ISG members (and I am not talking about the first one I traveled to The Sue with) have made a lasting impression on my view of The Sue. One does not even post up here anymore given the negative tone that permeates the Sosua Forum. The other is known as Mr. T. They (along with my personal exploration) are the most responsible for my updated view on The Sue. Remain stuck in the past if you like. I live in the expanded present. And I am telling everyone on this board that The Sue I visited 8 years ago is nothing like The Sue I have visited during my three trips within the last year. By no means does that make me an expert on The Sue. But I can say I am an expert in what I like. And I have discovered The Sue that I like and works for me.
Here is where you call out me and Mr. E.
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So tell me Oakie, you going to stay with your assertion that I've got a problem with The Sue or the Dominican Republic? Or more importantly that you can tell me anything about the Dominican Republic at all?
I am Subcmdr and I am a Man in the Arena.
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05-14-22 11:59 #33555
Posts: 1908Originally Posted by OldKool [View Original Post]
I repeat, the King of Sosua is cash, and the Queen of Sosua is pussy. It's as simple as that. LOL.
But everybody has different needs, Some like casual sex, the more, the merrier, some like a GFE, and some have built relationships that provide a little of both. Why.
Like with the chicas, You can rent one by the hour, lease one, or buy one, take publico, a bus, or a moto, depending on your location and needs.
I see lots of opportunity to make Sosua and the DR work for everybody.
I'm not there right now but will be back in a couple weeks.
After 13 years I can honestly say, when I step out of that little POP airport, I feel I'm home, and I feel the stress leaving my body.
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05-14-22 07:02 #33554
Posts: 1984OldKool is posting up like a man in the arena
Points of total agreement: 1. The average price of pussy has gone up since 10 years ago. 2. 100 USD = 5500 DOP is too much for a short time. 3.30 plus girls give better service. 4. Try to like the girls and build friendly relationships (works for me and OldKool). 5. We all have different needs and requirements. 5. The key to enjoying The Sue is getting your needs met. 6. Man law number 1 and 2 is in full effect.
So the range for a short time must be somewhere between 1500 DOP and 5500 DOP. I know this is The Sue Forum but in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este social / sexual services for a short time (1 or 2 hours, 1 leche) can be routinely purchased for 2000 DOP. I have only been able to do that here in The Sue one time. 2500 has been my offer with a 500 bonus for good performance. That is a 25 to 30 percent increase in the price of social / sexual services due to location. The bonus has been predicated on where they take my leche. The chicas I have been with have been earning their bonuses. Am I overpaying?
I made friends with a German that was staying on the same floor of my hotel. He was in The Sue for two weeks. He was complaining that about the price (3000 DOP) and the service of the chicas. After a few sessions of my tutoring. He reported that he fucked 10 chicas at 2000 DOP (short time full service) and two at 1500 DOP. He even gave those referrals (1500 DOP). But most importantly he was happy with the service. Told me he was comfortable paying 2000 DOP. Of course his requirements were different from mine. And so that explains the difference in average prices we were willing to pay to get the services we wanted. By the end of the trip he said he was wanted to return to the Dominican Republic. He even told me that he had an encounter with a girl that he considered ideal and that his trip was complete because he found his fantasy girl. I told him that he had a brother in the Dominican Republic now and he told me I had a brother in Germany.
I also want to add this his desire for value in social / sexual service was a part of his overall desire for that in all purchases he made in The Sue. So I directed him to the best value restaurants and barbers. Told him to focus on the deal and not the girl. I showed him how to get off the tourist economy and into the Dominican one as best as possible under these conditions. And he said he noticed the difference after I arrived and shared a few things with him.
So, that just goes to show that The Sue is what you make of it. And we each can make it what we want with the right knowledge, skill and execution.
Fuck long, cum hard and prosper. And may the pussy be with you, always!
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05-14-22 04:35 #33553
Posts: 3103Singing in the choir
I have been doing the SU for almost 10 years. It has changed greatly but still provides more easy access to young pussy then most guys can handle. Dudes complaining that they can not get 1500 peso pussy like they did 10 years ago is hilarious. There is always way more girls then guys and most girls struggle to get any action. 20% of the girls get 80% of the action. Not to mention the influx of young weekend warriors has really changed the game. They have little interest in GFE and are running back to the club as soon as they wipe their dicks off. The girls have adjusted to there methods. I am older now and wam bam thank you mam does not work for me. The 30 plus girls are becoming more appealing to me. BETTER SERVICE.
I try to like the girls I have sex with and build a friendly relationship. Just because a girl is not well educated does not make her stupid. I enjoy spending time out of bed with some of the girls I deal with. My bank account has been growing and I can afford my hobby but I never over pay which means 100 for short time aint happening. I am sure there are some girls whose game is so good that it may be worth it. We all have different needs and requirements. The key to the hobby is developing the skills to satisfy your needs. I wine and dine give small gifts. This works for me. I have a great team of regulars but finding a new jewel every now and then is still a thrill.
In closing what you pay is your business. Just remember cash is King. Pussy gets old but cash is always fresh.
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05-13-22 20:58 #33552
Posts: 1984Useable Intelligence
Originally Posted by Durandpaul [View Original Post]
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I have a brother who rolls large. He does not brag about it up here in ISG, but the brother has it. The girls at the lowest priced agency he uses start at 150 hour /200 for two hours. Sometimes he keeps the girls all day. And that means he has to feed them and entertain them also. They get to eat what he likes to eat. I see the pictures of the girls he hires. The are paid model / music video quality gorgeous. I can't roll like that. He has no interest in the girls I hire. Difference in female tastes. No, I don't think so. If I had his money I would spend it the same way he does.
Someone once jumped in my shit, beating his chest, asking me when I tried a girl from my friends agency if it was better experience than my regular girls are. Damn straight it was! In the same way that a Ruth Chris Steak is better than one from Outback.
It has been said there are no stupid questions. But there are. Like when someone asks a question to make their own point instead of actually seeking information. Because you should not have to ask if flying in business class or first class is better than cattle class. Anyone that has ever actually flown in business class or first class knows there is a difference.
Originally Posted by Durandpaul [View Original Post]
But that sometimes happens. Because the girl you have hired likes you or is just feeling more freaky in the moment. So you get more in the moment than maybe some other guy gets. My recommendation is to never sleep on the value of personal interaction with another human being. I am not saying be "Capitan Save a Puta". I am saying use all of your senses including your intuition when dealing with the girls you are working with.
Originally Posted by Durandpaul [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Durandpaul [View Original Post]
I don't visit Sosua much. So I do not have and established stable of girls I can call upon for consistently satisfying sexual activities.
So, I wander around and let my fingers do the walking in my dating applications (that some feel like they never need to use). That is fine. It does not mean that I don't have any social skills as some try to infer. I just means that I prefer doing things differently than some others.
As a visiting sexpat I only have a much time as I allow for my libido. I am looking for good deals. But I will tell you that asking prices in The Sue are much higher (at least 33%) than the amounts I pay in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. And that is even after I negotiate down here in The Sue. I have only received one deal equal to what I pay in Santo Domingo este. And it took me about a week to negotiate that. I will post the details in Grownman's Boom Boom room.
Girls rarely ask me for 4000,5000 DOP or 80,100, 120,150, 200 USD for an hour for social / sexual services in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. They routinely ask for that in The Sue. Somebody is paying those prices. I get way too many "no's" on my counter offers for the chicas not to be sure they can get the amount of money they want from someone else.
Now if you are an expat that lives in The Sue (especially one that never has had to use a dating application) your overall cost for social / sexual services should be lower because of established relationships.
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05-13-22 16:15 #33551
Posts: 5652Originally Posted by GrownMan1 [View Original Post]
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05-13-22 14:21 #33550
Posts: 152Supply and Demand applies here too
Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
I was just doing renovations to one of my houses and just saying this is too much, still too much, maybe I will do it next time has allowed me to save 30% based on the original quotes. Negotiating is a life skill.
When someone say we spoil our hoes. I see that as the wrong way to look at things. Whoever said that should instead say " I spoil myself" and anybody who can spoil themselves and negotiate prices will have an unforgettable experience.
The forum should spend more time talking about facts, prices, rates etc. Instead of focusing on subjective things or stereotypes. Like I don't see the value in talking about dick size when everybody on here is paying. I worry first about getting my nut. I just know that if she enjoys it too maybe I will get more value but never use hookers to boost my ego just not the way to go.
The forum also needs to be at peace with how much people pay based on travel frequency and duration. My budget on a 7 days trip is usually 650 flights, 150 seven nights for food and hotel, 3 girls a day at 3500 peso, or 65 a girl for a total 195 a day and 1365 for a week. This brings my total to $ 3,000 for a week. So if I was to pay just 1000 peso more for all 21 sessions it will increase my budget by $396 or 13%.
In reallity I will never get to 21 sessions, maybe 16 realistically which will put me under budget. Adding negotiation to it, there would be some 2500,3000, 3500 girls and maybe 1 or 2 4500 pesos girl. Hell my last day I might pay $100 to the quickest girl to show up for my last nut.
Moral of the story don't worry about what the next guy is paying but we can make people we meet in sosua or on his forum better negotiators and aware of the true price. I don't like paying more than the next guy. 5 to 10% for is alright but more than 20% needs my attention and his unacceptable to me.
Someone who flies to DR or any other destinations once or twice a year for a week or less shouldn't worry about a 13% increase in their budget if that will help them to spoil themselves. And don't let another man tells you how to spend your vacation. Anybody who is an expat on the other hand or is always out of the country should worry about that $13% increase and should try to find the best deal since they have time on their side.
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05-13-22 13:13 #33549
Posts: 152I use tips for fast delivery
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
A good example is going to Playa Chiquita when it's full. I never wait in line. I will just go to the front of the line and add 50 pesos on top. Same thing for getting a drink, on a busy night you can wait 5 to 10 min to just get a drink. If they know you will tip all you have to do is give the money to whover is the cashier and you will get your drink right away. I do that in DR very often and I do the same in US. I just hate to wait.
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05-13-22 12:57 #33548
Posts: 152Originally Posted by JohnClayton [View Original Post]
On your other comments about race. Sometimes there are truths in stereotypes. But just know that most stereotypes are driven by small outliers and a man who judge a group by a stereotype is ignorant and wear. AND never believe what a hooker says about other clients. Just worry about what you do and what she allows you to do.
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05-12-22 19:22 #33547
Posts: 2490Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]