Seeking Arrangements

[AmericanPi]

There's a girl I'm going to see tomorrow that said she can't do dinner because she has an event but is happy to just come.

Over to my Airbnb instead. Honestly kind of turned me off. Made me see her as an escort.

That makes sense. Have you run into any girls that are just there for the expensive meal though? I was talking to one girl that expected fancy meals every date and I felt like she'd order the most expensive thing probably.

Do you avoid girls that want to meet at a hotel?

[DramaFree11]

For me I found that always going to dinner is the ticket. I only tried a coffee date once and it was a fail. I tried several lunch dates that didn't work out early on. Other than one ice cream date that scored a regular (fairly pro girl) it's only dinner dates that work for me. You get a chance to become comfortable which is truly important for the non pros. I had two straight to room semi pros but even they wanted to chat my ear off for two hours before getting down. Recently Leya even called me out for a quick watch check (1:30 AM!) saying too many guys just want to jump in the sack and she needs to be comfortable first.

So I think dinner definitely works to my advantage and always take dinner momentum to the bedroom.

As usual you are correct. Avoid day dates, big waste of time and resources. Maybe on the weekends.

[Chicago85]

Yeah, it is funny. I told other guys that SB sex was better than ho sex, and the ones who have not gotten a SB all are like, "How do you know that? You are not in the room when I have sex. You are weird" but every guy who has done the SB thing knows good SB sex is way way better than good ho sex. If you find a loyal horny one who falls for you, it is even better still, but those are hard to come by.

But JJ, why not try using seeking in the Philippines? I see a lot of hotties on there, and the Asian girls with their long term focus seems to be what we are looking for.

Agree with this. The SB sex has always been much more GFE and vast majority want to do BBFS, multiple pops, CIM, etc. The girls also seem much more turned on, or better at faking it. I guess it's the money they know we have? (LOL the best aphrodisiac for women! I usually do covered the first time with a girl and then decide from there.

[Chicago85]

That makes sense. Have you run into any girls that are just there for the expensive meal though? I was talking to one girl that expected fancy meals every date and I felt like she'd order the most expensive thing probably.

Do you avoid girls that want to meet at a hotel?

I've only had a couple experiences in the US, many more in Colombia and Panama. For Colombia and Panama I would say 4/5's are straight up P4 P and it's not worth dinner unless you speak fluent Spanish or want practice. In lieu of dinner, I usually try to do at least a drink to loosen them up and start some chemistry as the sex tends to be better that way. Many girls will be open to coming straight to your hotel and in that case I usually have some drinks available and something for music (I. E. Bluetooth speaker, some reggaeton). Offer room service if she wants it. If I'm unsure of the girls looks I always try to do a video call before. I had this happen recently with a girl in Colombia where she had put on a legitimate 30 lbs since her photos were taken and the photos were heavily photo-shopped as well. The hilarious thing is that she kept asking me for real photos, and I was like, look at my profile (there are 8-9 real photos). And then of course her photos are the fake ones LOL.

[GoingDumb]

Always. Though not because I must. Because I enjoy it more. The alternative is eating alone and waiting for the hour the escort shows up. More fun to have a companion. And I would guess it's better for the girl to not be treated like an escort. I always do really nice restaurants. The kind they prob can't afford. Because I assume it greases the skids.

That makes sense. Have you run into any girls that are just there for the expensive meal though? I was talking to one girl that expected fancy meals every date and I felt like she'd order the most expensive thing probably.

Do you avoid girls that want to meet at a hotel?

[AmericanPi]

Do you guys always do dinner and hotel? I haven't been able to find a girl that wants to sugar date regularly, only ones that are more fwb. I thought I didn't mind but it feels too transactional. One girl stayed barely an hour and I felt the ppm wasn't worth it.

Always. Though not because I must. Because I enjoy it more. The alternative is eating alone and waiting for the hour the escort shows up. More fun to have a companion. And I would guess it's better for the girl to not be treated like an escort. I always do really nice restaurants. The kind they prob can't afford. Because I assume it greases the skids.

[Elvis 2008]

The trouble with Seeking is it can ruin other forms of commercial sex for you.

Getting on for two weeks now of drowning myself in Filipina pussy and all I can think about is my totally wild, crazy SB back in the UK.

Yeah, it is funny. I told other guys that SB sex was better than ho sex, and the ones who have not gotten a SB all are like, "How do you know that? You are not in the room when I have sex. You are weird" but every guy who has done the SB thing knows good SB sex is way way better than good ho sex. If you find a loyal horny one who falls for you, it is even better still, but those are hard to come by.

But JJ, why not try using seeking in the Philippines? I see a lot of hotties on there, and the Asian girls with their long term focus seems to be what we are looking for.

[Steve 9696]

Do you guys always do dinner and hotel? I haven't been able to find a girl that wants to sugar date regularly, only ones that are more fwb. I thought I didn't mind but it feels too transactional. One girl stayed barely an hour and I felt the ppm wasn't worth it.

For me I found that always going to dinner is the ticket. I only tried a coffee date once and it was a fail. I tried several lunch dates that didn't work out early on. Other than one ice cream date that scored a regular (fairly pro girl) it's only dinner dates that work for me. You get a chance to become comfortable which is truly important for the non pros. I had two straight to room semi pros — but even they wanted to chat my ear off for two hours before getting down. Recently Leya even called me out for a quick watch check (1:30 AM!) saying too many guys just want to jump in the sack and she needs to be comfortable first.

So I think dinner definitely works to my advantage and always take dinner momentum to the bedroom.

[J Janni]

The trouble with Seeking is it can ruin other forms of commercial sex for you.

Getting on for two weeks now of drowning myself in Filipina pussy and all I can think about is my totally wild, crazy SB back in the UK.

If she had the capacity to deal with the travel (she's a totally sweet girl with bad anxiety issues), she'd totally be down to fly out here and join me. She knows exactly where I am and what I'm up to. And mostly, she's just jealous of the girls I'm getting and she's not.

We had a little chat the other day and she updated me on her adventures. She's still only seeing one other sugar daddy (supposedly exclusive, but she met me again after that arrangement.) Still exploring her kinky side with a group of very kinky friends. And still utterly lovely.

Absolute unicorn. I'll never find a girl like this again.

Hopefully I can see her a few times when I'm back from my travels. She is literally up for seeing me in any capacity I want.

I still see her crashing and burning, changing, not being the person I have such fond memories of. Maybe it will be different when I see her again.

Maybe not though.

Arrrgh! I wish I was the guy I pretend to be on Seeking. Loaded, living and working in the UK and with the finances and work situation just to chain her up in my place (she'd love it.).

[GoingDumb]

Same. I've had a few bad experiences. But mostly they were amazing. What was best was how they differ from escorts. With escorts it's clearly a transaction. They show up for an amount of time, and they are leaving at a specific time. It's a job. With sa, you are having dinner and a conversation. You are bedding someone who wasn't in bed with another guy 2 hours ago. You're kind of both getting away with something. This is her secret side hustle, and you're bedding a girl half your age who you'the otherwise never be able to do. This is win win.

Do you guys always do dinner and hotel? I haven't been able to find a girl that wants to sugar date regularly, only ones that are more fwb. I thought I didn't mind but it feels too transactional. One girl stayed barely an hour and I felt the ppm wasn't worth it.

[Mush Elvii]

Where did you stay? Did the girls give you their price and if so when or did you just give them what you wanted?

I stayed in an airbnb in Polanco, near Liverpool dept store.

The SA I scored did not gave their prices nor any $ was discussed upfront. This is not usual though as more than 50% want to negotiate upfront in my experience.

Then, there were few which only wanted to meet up on dinner date and I usually play that way anyway to weed out obvious dudd's. The one I discussed price upfront flunked out few days before meeting and few were outrageous quoting 5 or 6 k pesos which I won't / don't pay.

I usually pay based on session length, quality and act as well as what I spend on their food, transportation etc so not a fixed amount formula!

[AmericanPi]

Same. I've had a few bad experiences. But mostly they were amazing. What was best was how they differ from escorts. With escorts it's clearly a transaction. They show up for an amount of time, and they are leaving at a specific time. It's a job. With sa, you are having dinner and a conversation. You are bedding someone who wasn't in bed with another guy 2 hours ago. You're kind of both getting away with something. This is her secret side hustle, and you're bedding a girl half your age who you'the otherwise never be able to do. This is win win.

Even tho finding great girls is painful, it is totally worth it for me. Because once I get the date and we seal the deal and head to the room I've had very few girls I was unhappy with. At a minimum I'd repeat. Some Id repeat a lot. LOL. Here's a quick tally.

I think I've bedded 37 SA girls. Of these only 2 were truly disappointing. One was a straight up hooker easy to tell before the date but she was lazy in bed. Too tired to cowgirl. I mean WTF? One was ok / awkward on the first date and had to convince her to BJ no condom. Second date she showed up in sweats, hair not done, and insisted CBJ. Done. And then there was of course Valentina who jilted me in London after flying her there. So she was a home run win followed by a devastating loss. Gonna put her in the loss column for completeness but I'd do it all over again.

And that leaves 34 (92%!) that I'd repeat with! Of the 34,26 were one or two time wonders. Only circumstances (haven't been back or found someone better) prevent repeating. 5 I did 4+ times. And 3 are regs I've hit 10 or more times.

To me this is just AMAZING. Totally worth any logistical pain. I am not sure if I am more successful than most. Just this is what I've experienced.

[Steve 9696]

Even tho finding great girls is painful, it is totally worth it for me. Because once I get the date and we seal the deal and head to the room I've had very few girls I was unhappy with. At a minimum I'd repeat. Some Id repeat a lot. LOL. Here's a quick tally.

I think I've bedded 37 SA girls. Of these only 2 were truly disappointing. One was a straight up hooker easy to tell before the date but she was lazy in bed. Too tired to cowgirl. I mean WTF? One was ok / awkward on the first date and had to convince her to BJ no condom. Second date she showed up in sweats, hair not done, and insisted CBJ. Done. And then there was of course Valentina who jilted me in London after flying her there. So she was a home run win followed by a devastating loss. Gonna put her in the loss column for completeness but I'd do it all over again.

And that leaves 34 (92%!) that I'd repeat with! Of the 34,26 were one or two time wonders. Only circumstances (haven't been back or found someone better) prevent repeating. 5 I did 4+ times. And 3 are regs I've hit 10 or more times.

To me this is just AMAZING. Totally worth any logistical pain. I am not sure if I am more successful than most. Just this is what I've experienced.

[AmorPorFavor]

Where did you stay? Did the girls give you their price and if so when or did you just give them what you wanted?

[The Cane]

Brazil put on its big boy pants in the mid-90's and ridded themselves of hyperinflation. The funny thing was the Brazilians and their businesses were much adept at managing through hyperinflation than the Argentines ever were.

I have a friend whose relatives lost their life savings (twice) due to devaluations of the real. So maybe the Brazilians put on their big boy pants to manage their economy. But, a lot of people got hurt and lost the shirts on their backs because of that too.