Thread: Stupid Shit in Kyiv
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05-20-22 19:44 #626
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Russian Loren Strawberry is very nice.
https://twitter.com/lorenstrawberr1
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05-20-22 19:41 #625
Posts: 506Do you sympathize with US enemies?
So then do you secretly enjoy it when terrorists attack america? In your mind is it justified?
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
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05-20-22 18:34 #624
Posts: 516Only a delusional idiot would gloat about Mariupol
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Maybe you should check in with your Russkiy overlords because there's a high level of dissatisfaction and disgust among Russian bloggers and commentators that the "special operation" has taken so long and accomplished so little, especially where Mariupol is concerned.
Meanwhile, Russian troops have turned tail and run like scared rabbits away from Kyiv, and now the same is happening around Kharkhiv. In fact Russia is performing so badly that even on Russian state television the negative comments are starting (video length = 1 min 32 sec, English subs):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF6TXAIe1tc
Since media messaging in Russia is tightly controlled, and since this commentator hasn't been tossed in jail, it's logical to conclude that the Kremlin wants to shape their messaging to include the possibility of less than optimal results, which is simply a euphemism for defeat.
BTW, the commentator warns against the dangers of "informational tranquilisers," so I'm guessing he had you, and your ilk, in mind.
P.S. Keep hitting your head against the brick wall of the US with your anti-American screeds. We don't even notice, unless it's to laugh at your own blood streaming down your face. Putin has guaranteed that the US will be ascendant for decades to come, while Russia spirals downward into an abyss of their own making.
P. P.S. One great thing Russia has gotten from this war is a killer (pun intended) motto. How does "Remember the Moskva!" sound? Pretty good, I think. But feel free to come up with another one, whatever floats your boat.
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05-20-22 07:54 #623
Posts: 1056Yankee Toilet
Your collective comments are not worth reading because you are American and, as you show, ignorant and you think your armed might makes you right. The Nazis thought the same and the Red Army, who defeated them, hated them for it. You are a malign force in the world, nothing to offer but sexual diseases, Coca Cola and porn.
Go check out the American politics thread to see how vacuous you all are. It should really have shit tagged on to the title.
I cannot think of anything more generically repulsive than Americans.
On the positive side, the surrender of your Nazis in Mariupol continues. A surrender not an evacuation as your fake media call it. I'd ask you to enjoy the Cannes film festival but that idiot Zelensky is all over it, trying to fry European brains to make them as mushy as what passes for American brains.
Losers. Hookers should charge an American / lard excess free for dealing with you lot.
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05-20-22 00:58 #622
Posts: 1988This is an interesting thread if we don't count a few idiots, useful and otherwise, LOL.
However, please consider that with all this historical and cultural diggings you might unnecessarily complicate things. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and old-fashioned colonialism is also just that. Colonialism.
Yes, Russia feels that it's entitled to Ukraine. And yes, it hurts the collective Russian psyche that after all these years, Ukraine doesn't want to do anything with them anymore. But there is more to this insanity.
1. After the comparatively painless dissolution of the USSR, Russia is the last colonial power on Earth. Losing colonies is never easy (remember France clinging to Alger merely 50 years ago). Russia's pain from the USSR dissolution was dulled by the fact that most of CIS countries remained Russia's clients states. Ukraine is very different.
2. Russia lives and breathes in terms of geopolitics. It wants to be physically surrounded by satellites that would provide a natural shield to Russia proper. Russia has never been interested in far away colonies in Africa, South East Asia or the Americas. It wants its vassals to be close.
3. Letting Ukraine depart Russia's "sphere of influence" is a huge domestic problem as well. A strong, prosperous, democratic and independent Ukraine is a direct threat to Putin's absolute power. It's too close.
4. Finally, Putin has devolved (evolved?) from a thieving tyrant into a madman. Because one can't not be a madman to start this war.
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05-19-22 22:47 #621
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
The few Mexicans that lived in California, New Mexico and Texas didn't give a shit about the ineffective dictatorship in Mexico. The Mexicans in Texas fought Santa Anna. They are buried at the Alamo and other battle sites.
Now if you want to bring up the Native-Americans, they got screwed by European settlement. That was the age of conquest and about that time Russia was invading the Eastern lands inhabited by the Tatars and other peoples.
I suppose you can try to make a 21st century case that Tzarina Catherine the Great conquered the Ukraine in the 1700's. Thereby, Russia has a right to claim the Ukrainian's deference and obedience for all eternity.
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05-19-22 22:20 #620
Posts: 516Should we call you a waaah-mbulance?
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
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05-19-22 19:28 #619
Posts: 516The sweet sound of pathetic anti-American boo-hooing, while the US just laughs!
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Meanwhile, like the dominant force it is, the US just laughs off such farcical comments and continues to outperform. It must really suck to be you as you watch US-led NATO increase its presence and influence in Europe. As I predicted early on, in this very forum, Sweden and Finland have applied for NATO membership. At the same time, it's being reported that Poland and the Baltic states are requesting an additional 20,000 NATO troops for each country (total 80,000). Since a significant proportion of those troops will be American, get ready for an upcoming boom of American babies in Eastern Europe.
America has never given two shits for those who are envious and the response has ever been, and will continue to be, moving onward and upward on a trajectory of success. Meanwhile, America's closest rivals (China and Russia) are demonstrably in decline.
P.S. Nice try to blame the admins for your own deficiencies. Checking the spelling of "culture" is simply an elementary exercise in proofreading, which the "preview post" button provides unlimited opportunity to do. And using the wrong word entirely (exasperated vice exacerbated) is an error that goes beyond proofreading. But that's ok, blaming others is one of the character traits you've demonstrated, so it's not a surprise.
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05-19-22 18:04 #618
Posts: 1056The USA toilet
California, New Mexico, Texas etc, m stolen at the point of a gun from Mexico.
"Pity Mexico, so far from God, so near to ther United States."
Go off and eat a dozen of your horrible hot dogs (German, as nothing is American, bar shit like Coca Cola) I see your scum are invading Somalia again. The sooner open season is declared, the better.
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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05-19-22 16:55 #617
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
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05-19-22 16:50 #616
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
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05-19-22 16:42 #615
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Kozerog [View Original Post]
Your post started off well enough with your analogies to territory in the animal kingdom. But then, you digressed in comparing Russia's relationship to the Ukraine with the United State's relationship with Canada. There is nothing remotely comparable. It's because Western Democracies can cooperate and work together for mutual betterment.
Mearsheimer has some points to consider. I'm not sure they are the points you have gleaned.
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05-19-22 16:19 #614
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by ReinerOtto [View Original Post]
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05-19-22 16:08 #613
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
I wouldn't totally discount his point of view. You earlier mentioned Russian reparations to the Ukraine. The West has to be very careful about how the peace is built. In fact, having Turkey engaged as a mediator might not be a bad thing. You don't want it to appear that the West is imposing a punitive peace on the Russians.
The Ukrainian "corrosion" strategy is interesting analysis. It's not entirely a new concept. I believe the North Vietnamese employed a similar strategy. They made the USA And French earlier pay such a price that they simply packed up and left. I think by all accounts the Tet Offensive in 1968 was not an attempt to advance and actually hold ground. It was a strategic victory in that it corroded the United States' will to fight. I think at some point the North Vietnamese had swung global opinion to their favor.
The problem I see is will the Russians simply pack up and leave both physically and emotionally. Will they give up on the idea of controlling the Ukraine in one form or another?
Not to be glib, but it's like a divorce where one former partner tries to continue controlling and manipulating the other. In this case, the other partner is clearly saying "we have moved on."
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05-19-22 15:57 #612
Posts: 516Reality isn't a matter of opinion
Originally Posted by Kozerog [View Original Post]
I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm proposing greater US involvement. I propose nothing, I merely observe, comment on those observations, and suggest possible extrapolations from what's currently happening. And I do my best to focus on the tides rather than the waves. And right now the tide is almost entirely moving against Russia. If or when that changes, I'll do my best to make accurate observations of that new reality. I don't see that happening any time soon, if ever, but that's simply an opinion.
Likewise, your and Mearsheimer's world view about humans as territorial animals, which seems to me to be essentially a "Law of the Jungle" view, is an opinion, nothing more. You're certainly entitled to it and I simply have no inclination to debate it because, as I stated above, my focus is on the current, observable, reality of facts on the ground.
Right now, those facts include a vast amount of money and equipment being funneled into Ukraine from NATO and Western countries. Could that change at some point? Yes, certainly. But that tide hasn't changed and is flowing decisively in Ukraine's direction. And it's worth considering that much of what's happening may not stem from any great love or affinity for Ukraine, but perhaps be driven by fear (or hate) of Russia and a desire to see Russian aggression defeated and Russia itself crippled. But that latter point is simply one theory as to why some countries are helping. The "why" of things is always open to debate, whereas the "what" is objectively observable.
Mearsheimer, IMO, superimposes his view of the "why" on the "what" and conflates the two. All his (and your) claims that his theories and world view constitute objective reality simply fall flat except, of course, to those that share them.
As with any theory, Mearsheimer's might prove to be correct. I don't personally think so, but I could be wrong. It's reality that always wins out in the end, and separates the wheat from the chaff. That's where my primary focus is, and any theory that doesn't account for, or contradicts, observable facts and evidence isn't worth my time.