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05-23-22 19:34 #656
Posts: 516A view from China on the coming disintegration of Russia
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Quite a thought-provoking map, eh?
Funny how Russia's "partner," China, seems to be sitting on the sidelines, waiting and licking its chops for the possible (likely?) breakup of Russia.
But only delusional fools think they can predict the future. I'm satisfied with accurately observing present realities and proposing reasonable extrapolations from that body of evidence.
And there is no reality-based scenario or extrapolation in which Russia wins. With each passing day they continue to eat their "seed corn," diminishing whatever reserves they may have, while sanctions prevent any meaningful replenishment. Meanwhile, Ukraine is being continually replenished and refreshed by the US, NATO, and a coalition of freedom-loving nations.
P.S. I don't do Facebook. You can suck dick if you want, but that's not how I roll.
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05-23-22 08:21 #655
Posts: 1056Candid Camera
Seems you guys are all here. Go watch it. https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1060921954507161.
Besides the American ghetto dwellers, we have some Reddit schmuck setting himself as an authority. Social media is not where to dive for the main parameters.
The mega surrenders continue.
Ukraine will probably ber divided into three part: Russian affiliated, Polish (and Romanian and Hungarian) controlled, and Zelensky's corrupt rump. Good luck bonking Nazi widows there.
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05-22-22 22:33 #654
Posts: 516Nobel laureate economist analyzes sanctions against Russia
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/19/o...s-ukraine.html
Short version:
1. Money flowing into Russia doesn't help if it can't be used to buy needed goods.
2. The flow of goods into Russia has dropped drastically, not only from countries formally participating in sanctions, but also from countries that aren't formally participating, including China.
3. Viewed in this context, Russia's trade surplus is a sign of weakness, as it signifies their inability to spend money outside their borders.
4. Since the current conflict has largely become a war of attrition, with significant equipment losses on both sides, time is working against Putin because of the inability to import materials, components, and parts needed to repair or replace war equipment. Ukraine, however, is being replenished by NATO and the West on an ongoing basis.
BTW, for those forum members who have a brain, and understand the difference between platforms and sources, here's the subreddit posting that points to the original article:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianCo...utins_economy/
And here's the same type of post on Twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/BaldwinRE...72892746588160
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05-22-22 22:24 #653
Posts: 1988Thank you for a good laugh, I needed it!
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Their morale is down, their economy is down, their relationship with the whole world is down in the dumps.
Russia has taken two large Ukrainian cities Mariupol and Kherson. The later was taken easily because it had been completely unprotected, while their "great" victory in Mariupol took a 3-month siege, tens of thousands dead civilians and Russian solders, complete destruction of a city with half-million population and a mind-boggling number of crimes against humanity.
3 months to take one city! The Pyrrhic victory wasn't as devastated to the victor as Mariupol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhus_of_Epirus
In the meantime, Ukrainians have cleaned up the Kharkov Oblast from the enemy and reached the Russian border. And the land-lease hasn't even started yet.
Hands down, huh. Keep it up, comrade.
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
"Comrade" is still the only official way to address one's superior or colleague in the Russia's Armed Forces, Police, Russian Guard, FSB, GRU and every other military or paramililtary organization in the RF.
As a dedicated info-soldier for Mother Russia you are but a comrade, so don't sell yourself short, LOL.
Capiche, Tovarisch Morales?
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05-22-22 20:18 #652
Posts: 2041Chomsky has a Hard On for American Capitalism
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
I use the analogy of choosing what to put in the box when making a clearly very biased case. You simply leave things out that don't fit the argument. Jmsuttr, the American slavery argument is exactly like that box. You had to point out everything left out of the box and ignored about global slavery.
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05-22-22 19:58 #651
Posts: 516Russia winning? ROTFLMAO! Rabies must be making you delusional.
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
There are NO credible military analysts anywhere on the planet (including neutral countries AND those favorable to Russia) who are even remotely talking about Russia winning. The MOST favorable assessment with respect to Russia is that of a stalemate scenario.
Even inside Russia there is pessimism, as I demonstrated with the YouTube link in my recent post, from anyone who has even a shred of a connection with reality. The only ones who speak differently are the propaganda-mongers, who probably don't believe it themselves, and those who are in the throes of rabies-induced hallucinations.
And Reddit, contrary to your delusional babbling, is not a source. Neither is Twitter. But both are platforms where people DO post their sources and those sources can then be vetted to see whether or not they're backed up by credibility and expertise. Every one of my sources has been so vetted and there isn't a single link in ANY of my posts that relies on some random Reddit or Twitter post. I consistently point to the original source, and invite everyone to read and decide for themselves.
Therefore, your attack on the platforms is simply the most lame and transparent example possible of ad hominem. If you have any substantive criticism against either the credentials or content of the numerous experts I've cited, feel free to post for the benefit of the forum. But you can't, so you won't, because you're an intellectual pipsqueak who can't bring himself (or, more likely, isn't able) to rise above the level of personal insults.
And that's where you're stuck, in the gutter with your Russian nationalist buddy Little Vlad and his Neo-Nazi minions in the Wagner battalion, and beyond. As for an actual reBUTTal, you couldn't find one with two hands and a compass.
Meanwhile, every real-world indication is that Russia is in a death-spiral, while the US and NATO (soon to include Finland and Sweden!) are on an ever upward trajectory. Thanks, LilliPutin!
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05-22-22 13:49 #650
Posts: 1056Stick to Reddit, Monkeypox
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
On a positive note, Russia is winning hands down.
On the American simpletons calling me Comrade to appear witty, the Communists are Russia's main opposition party; they are not in government but you go ahead to boil things down to your level.
As regards rebuttals, You haven't rebutted, much as you may be fond of butts. That is because I am not engaging with you because you are nothing to engage with.
You'll be happy to hear I am getting better, another few days to be safe. Then I'll be fighting fit again, as much as age allows me. I've caught up on my reading (no Reddit or 4 chan for me) and I hoped to be back in the saddle, but not with Ukrainians, soon. But then the Yanks spread monkeypox, on which I have my theories.
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05-22-22 04:12 #649
Posts: 516How is slavery a US-centric issue?
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
https://www.freetheslaves.net/slaver...ry-in-history/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
Anyone not looking at history through anti-American goggles should have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge the following:
- Slavery dates back thousands of years and was a near-universal practice.
- Slavery was a central feature of both the Greek and Roman empires. And those periods gave birth to many of the legal and cultural underpinnings of Western civilization.
- Slavery was facilitated and introduced to the New World by the Portuguese and Spanish.
-By some estimates, 90% of African slaves were sold into bondage by other Africans. And that occurrence was an essential prerequisite of the Atlantic slave trade.
https://alphahistory.com/russianrevo...ion-in-russia/
Russia, which is a country relevant to the discussions in this forum, didn't emancipate its serfs until 1861 (the same year the US Civil War began). And here's what that "freedom" looked like:
"Alexander II finally acted in 1861, signing a decree that ruled a line through serfdom. A process of land redistribution was commenced but the detail was left in the hands of corrupt bureaucrats and, in some cases, the land-owners themselves.
As a consequence, the reallocation of Russian land was hardly fair. Russia's serfs became free peasants but they were given a stark choice: either leave their land or commit to a 49-year state mortgage. They had, in effect, traded one form of bondage for anothe."
Moving into the 20th century, Nazi Germany made extensive use of forced labor from 1939 to 1945. "Arbeit macht frei," right? How quickly people forget.
Saudi Arabia and Yemen didn't ban slavery until 1962 and the Islamic Conference didn't renounce the practice until 1990. Oh yes, and there are many who would argue that China is currently the worst offender when it comes to forced labor in the modern world.
So yeah, it's pretty funny how, to so many, slavery is primarily a US-centric issue. Give me an effin' break!
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05-22-22 03:43 #648
Posts: 1680Yep
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
And there were never any promises made not to enlarge NATO into Eastern Europe. Russia only questioned expansion as it would relate to troop deployments in the former GDR, as Gorbachev later confirmed in no uncertain terms. Plus these discussions were within the context of the old USSR where the Warsaw Pact was still in force. Eastern Euro countries tasted freedom and requested integration. Knowing Russia too well they asked for protection. It's impossible to have confidence in the analysis of anyone that ignores the agencies of these countries.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...achev-says-no/
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05-22-22 00:32 #647
Posts: 1988That's a bit harsh.
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
For the music itself though, I don't think Tchaikovsky's or Rachmaninov's works were actually 'copied' from the West. Unlike the cars, planes and, oh yeah, the nukes.
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05-22-22 00:30 #646
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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05-21-22 21:00 #645
Posts: 516He's the perfect Wile E. Coyote to my Roadrunner!
Originally Posted by VinDici [View Original Post]
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/new/
With over 350 K members, it's a dumping ground of pro- and anti-Ukraine posts, and more than a few trolls. But, when you check it regularly, some contributors stand out and the authors and articles they reference prove worthy of following. Then, especially on the Twitter platform, you can further explore the subsidiary level of authors and articles cited. It's a bit like word of mouth, but the key is to separate the wheat from the chaff at the very beginning such that you're not wasting your time reading BS or propaganda. Here are a few I think are worth a look:
https://mobile.twitter.com/kamilkazani
https://mobile.twitter.com/WarintheFuture
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien
There are others, of course, but I visit these on a regular basis and, if they cite an author or article they think worthwhile, I'll usually make the time to check it out.
P.S. Poor Pedro M! Just like the Coyote, always trying to catch the Roadrunner but always falling short. And, since it's a purely American reference, he probably won't recognize it and will have to look it up. That makes it even funnier, don't you think?
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05-21-22 20:27 #644
Posts: 516Or maybe it originated in Wuhan?
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
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05-21-22 20:19 #643
Posts: 516Good response to Chomsky and like-minded pro-Russians
https://blogs.berkeley.edu/2022/05/1...a-ukraine-war/
See the Open Letter for full details, but here are the main points, or patterns, addressed:
Pattern #1: Denying Ukraine's sovereign integrity.
Pattern #2: Treating Ukraine as an American pawn on a geo-political chessboard.
Pattern #3. Suggesting that Russia was threatened by NATO.
Pattern #4. Stating that the USA Isn't any better than Russia.
Pattern #5. Whitewashing Putin's goals for invading Ukraine.
Pattern #6. Assuming that Putin is interested in a diplomatic solution.
Pattern #7. Advocating that yielding to Russian demands is the way to avert the nuclear war.
A thoughtful, respectful, and civil discussion and rebuttal. Something that's sadly lacking in many circles.
P.S. The pro-Russia characterization of Chomsky, et al, is mine alone, not the article's authors.
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05-21-22 19:54 #642
Posts: 516My point was crystal clear. Not sure what yours is.
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
And, at the time of my earlier post, there were conflicting reports as to whether all of the Ukrainian forces has surrendered or left. Please forgive me if I find your reference to an exclusively Russian source as less than persuasive. I prefer to wait for third-party confirmation, or the passage of a sufficient amount of time, as I never base any conclusion on official reports by either side.
But, if Russian sources are good enough for you, why not just declare the successful completion of the glorious "special operation" and we can all go back to our regular lives? I'm sure, if you look hard enough, you can find a Tass article to that effect.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.