London

[LaBambaBoy]

One thing that has stuck out to me doing research for an upcoming first visit is, well, I'll be arriving Sunday night in London, and it does not look easy to change USD to GBP. Do any of the agencies straight accept USD? What is the best / quickest / Sunday Night accessible way to change cash?

[Hunter999]

Hey friends,

I am an Indian, and I am visiting UK for 2 weeks, before writing this post I have done riff about the UK mongering scene, and I was little surprised, anyways, the knowledge I have reading after so many pages of Seniors Experiences gets me to the below conclusion.

1) Majority of the experiences we could have is via popular escort sites, there are few names like diva, etc.

2) there have been good experiences but they come at a huge bargain.

3) most of my fellow brothers go for a short term arrangement thing.

4) I went to MR website, but I didn't saw any reviews of satisfied clients, most of the profiles didn't had any reviews.

5) The girls are very pricy and in the same budget we can for full night experience in Dxb, South America countries and many of the Asian countries, but I must also remember that its UK, so no offence to my UK brothers.

6) I have been out of sharing my experiences on this portal, but after a 6 long year of break I am back, earlier I was in dub, India and I have posted many of my experiences over there.

I have got some good and kind references of senior members here for eg: Steve 4646, who is kind and is helpful to members like us who needs some direction. I have few questions if my senior brother could help.

1) I am coming for 2 weeks and I plan to have 2 to 3 fun days / nights, so how much my budget should be if I plan for full night.

2) Any of your good references are always welcome.

3) I don't know much about UK scene, so seeking advice from you all seniors.

4) how safe are the hotels in UK, do they allow visitors for a night stay or its restricted.

6) how much amount is enough for a full night.

Request your help my seniors.

Thanks Hunter.

[ACALover]

Wanted to first thank the board for all the helpful posts that aided in my navigating London for the first time. My prior visits were all Germany / Netherlands.

Based on the advice of the board and my location near Paddington station, I decided to go with Olina Asian Escorts. I also have an affinity for small Asian women. This being my first time in both London and doing the escort scene I was quite nervous. Monday I jumped straight in and called Olina right after showering and settling into my hotel room, the person on other side was very professional and set up my first meeting about 2 hours later.

Mimi. Amazing time with her. She looks way better than the photo's and it is really really short like 5 ft0 or less. Huge fake breasts and quite skinny on a tiny frame. She was so nice starting minute one giving full attention to me and letting me roam and touch. We did not kiss, but I did not try. She started with an amazing blowjob in two positions which ended in me shooting on her tits. After we cleaned up we rested only like 5 minutes, she was so hot she got me going again quickly. I then let her ride me for a long time. Her pussy was good, followed by an intense doggy where she is really hot and wants you to bang her hard. High Recommendation on this sweet Thai woman.

Holly. Taller than Mimi with bigger tits but still a tiny skinny body. We started with a shower that led to lots of groping and touching. She is wild and nasty and more intense in bed. Gave a good deep throat BJ with lots of ball licking. I did my best to extend the first round, but was no match. I told her I was cumming and she went deeper and harder and intensely swallowed my whole load. Was amazing. We rested a bit then she did a oily B2 B massage. This got me going for a second round of amazing sex. She was so good looking we did missionary till I finished second round. Very intense. Right up there with great Mimi experience.

Malee. Definitely my Asian fantasy, this girl is 5 ft1 or so and like 90 lbs, she is listed as be cups, but they are more like perfect A's. She was also quite young, she told me 22. Her BJ skills were amazing, though I tried to stop she got the first round (CIM deep BJ) very quick then we had to rest. After resting we did a great second round with lots of her on top and lots of doggy. She does not do A-level. I asked. She did not jump in shower with me but provided a pre and post event shower. Very nice girl. Great body if you like smaller firm breasts.

Betty. Was my final experience before I left Saturday. Overall she was very very nice and attentive willing to do any and everything. She was a bit older and bigger, but this is next to the other girls that were very thin. Her BJ was not as great as the others, but her expert ball licking and attitude made up for it. Two great pops with her in the middle she did a long oil massage on my legs before I was ready to go a 2nd round. She is clearly a trained masseuse. In Road 2 the website said she did A-level, I asked and she immediately said no problem. Nice and very accommodating.

So my overall experience in London was good but limited to Thai girls at Olina. Probably next time there I will venture to other websites, but as you can see nothing but positives out of Olina.

[Max #01]

In general, guys on ISG make too big of a deal about laws, and are too proud of thinking everything they do is legal.

Fully Advertised Swingers Clubs, and BDSM dungeons for that matter, exist even in a fully criminalized country like the United States.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-sex-c...hey-in-the-USA

The legal issue in the USA Is whether a person pays for sex, or pays an entry fee for facility admission where sex may or may not occur. Paying admission is legal, and consensual sex between or among adults is legal. Where is the line crossed as to paying for sex?

That issue is less relevant in the United Kingdom, where paying for sex is legal, but its clubs have to straddle the line between being a brothel and not being a brothel, just like escorts who share a work flat do. It is subjective, but the fact that ladies are not available all the time at a certain location with a line-up (or are not advertised in that manner) would argue against a club being a brothel. The fact that much of the sex occurs at, or immediately following, scheduled events, also indicates that it is a legal club and not a brothel.

The same type of issue exists in Barcelona. Catalonia issues some true "brothel" licenses under its hotel statutes. But prostitution is decriminalized in Spain, and independents can share a facility and hire out services such as booking and cleaning. So if the form of the structure is respected, a group of independents are their own bosses, even if they are mostly 18-21 years old, and these "girl bosses" are not running afoul of working at an unlicensed brothel. The "shared private apartments" are generally respected as a group of independents working together, and each of them have their own unique phone number. But they can't cross the line into operating as a brothel, even though it might look somewhat similar to a brothel to the naked eye.

Whether it is the United States, the United Kingdom, or Spain, there is a grey area of legality that most sex work occurs inside. In the USA, it is mostly within the realm of purchasing time and companionship (instead of purchasing sex), or making gifts under the Sugar system instead of purchasing sex, but there is some level of club admission aspect to the industry. It is impossible to make black and white distinctions regarding legality in these grey zones. It is heartwarming, by the way, how less arrogant the German FKK folks are about black and white legality now that they shell out 50 euros so often for those illegal BBBJs.

Thanks for the clarifications, which are pretty much where I have come down over the years. I remember an escort agency owner in the USA, of which I was a regular customer a while back, telling me that they (cops or other authorities) will leave you alone as long as you are low-key and pay your taxes.

[Mongerer88]

This dialogue piqued my interest about the legality of establishments like the Phoenix Club and similar sex party clubs. Specifically, are they considered "brothels" under UK law? My skimming (not a detailed study by any means) of the laws make me conclude that the Phoenix Club would not be considered a brothel if none of the women managed any aspect of the flat or lived there. I assume that's the case and that all is well from a legal perspective. Am I correct or do I need to read the laws a bit more closely?

In general, guys on ISG make too big of a deal about laws, and are too proud of thinking everything they do is legal.

Fully Advertised Swingers Clubs, and BDSM dungeons for that matter, exist even in a fully criminalized country like the United States.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-sex-c...hey-in-the-USA

The legal issue in the USA Is whether a person pays for sex, or pays an entry fee for facility admission where sex may or may not occur. Paying admission is legal, and consensual sex between or among adults is legal. Where is the line crossed as to paying for sex?

That issue is less relevant in the United Kingdom, where paying for sex is legal, but its clubs have to straddle the line between being a brothel and not being a brothel, just like escorts who share a work flat do. It is subjective, but the fact that ladies are not available all the time at a certain location with a line-up (or are not advertised in that manner) would argue against a club being a brothel. The fact that much of the sex occurs at, or immediately following, scheduled events, also indicates that it is a legal club and not a brothel.

The same type of issue exists in Barcelona. Catalonia issues some true "brothel" licenses under its hotel statutes. But prostitution is decriminalized in Spain, and independents can share a facility and hire out services such as booking and cleaning. So if the form of the structure is respected, a group of independents are their own bosses, even if they are mostly 18-21 years old, and these "girl bosses" are not running afoul of working at an unlicensed brothel. The "shared private apartments" are generally respected as a group of independents working together, and each of them have their own unique phone number. But they can't cross the line into operating as a brothel, even though it might look somewhat similar to a brothel to the naked eye.

Whether it is the United States, the United Kingdom, or Spain, there is a grey area of legality that most sex work occurs inside. In the USA, it is mostly within the realm of purchasing time and companionship (instead of purchasing sex), or making gifts under the Sugar system instead of purchasing sex, but there is some level of club admission aspect to the industry. It is impossible to make black and white distinctions regarding legality in these grey zones. It is heartwarming, by the way, how less arrogant the German FKK folks are about black and white legality now that they shell out 50 euros so often for those illegal BBBJs.

[Max #01]

Prostitution is not illegal in the UK but related activities, such as soliciting in a public place, pimping and kerb crawling, are unlawful.

This dialogue piqued my interest about the legality of establishments like the Phoenix Club and similar sex party clubs. Specifically, are they considered "brothels" under UK law? My skimming (not a detailed study by any means) of the laws make me conclude that the Phoenix Club would not be considered a brothel if none of the women managed any aspect of the flat or lived there. I assume that's the case and that all is well from a legal perspective. Am I correct or do I need to read the laws a bit more closely?

[Steve 9696]

Honestly, the way people keep going on about Diva, you'd think it was the only agency in London. There are probably hundreds!

Yes there are a zillion. This is by far the best resource to see them all. Go to the agency listings.

https://londonescortguide.com/london...y_listings.htm

However I went thru this list ten years ago and took any agency with more than ten girls and looked into it. At the time I found Peachy, Admiral, and Diva as best high volume. Having used all three I find Diva to have the best website with fully disclosed services and reviews. But by all means pick your fave. And Allure and Hamiltons are well respected for higher end.

But def do your own research if you don't want my experience. The link above is golden for that.

[Abox79]

Quick question, is the only way to contact Diva by SMS or phone call? Two years ago I contacted them via WhatsApp but seems that number is not valid, and I can't seem to add them via Telegram. Am I missing something here?

Honestly, the way people keep going on about Diva, you'd think it was the only agency in London. There are probably hundreds!

[Turgid]

You know little about prostitution in the UK mate, strange for someone touting non stop girls and agencies. Prostitution is not legal intaret he UK, google it, you might learn a few things.

Prostitution is not illegal in the UK but related activities, such as soliciting in a public place, pimping and kerb crawling, are unlawful.

[Prelude141]

You have a link to an article or something? I mean prostitution is legal in UK and there must be 200 agencies in London alone. Maybe a trafficking thing given that it's Thai girls? Def would like a link not a rumor.

You know little about prostitution in the UK mate, strange for someone touting non stop girls and agencies. Prostitution is not legal intéareêt he UK, google it, you might learn a few things.

[LeoAiolia]

Quick question, is the only way to contact Diva by SMS or phone call? Two years ago I contacted them via WhatsApp but seems that number is not valid, and I can't seem to add them via Telegram. Am I missing something here?

I confirmed with them no more Whatsapp, but they gave me the correct Telegram# (+44 7796 833583).

[LeoAiolia]

Quick question, is the only way to contact Diva by SMS or phone call? Two years ago I contacted them via WhatsApp but seems that number is not valid, and I can't seem to add them via Telegram. Am I missing something here?

[GoingDumb]

Ok so I read the thread and what a bunch of BS. Everyone spreading misinformation. OP talked about a MASSAGE PARLOR being raided. That could happen because you are having paid sex on site in a group setting. That's like a brothel and illegal. Someone mentions Olina and all of a sudden all this rampant discussion. Olina is NOT a brothel. Perfect legal escort advertising service. Girls are independents. No shared facility. By definition NOT a brothel. Not illegal. No smoke. No fire. Just a bunch of people ranting about stuff with no basis in fact, except that presumably some massage parlor was raided. If that is even true.

I was a little skeptical too but no responses for a couple days seems fishy to me. Probably stick to diva when I go soon.

[Steve 9696]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=344315.0

Sounds like if there's more than 2 girls it counts as a brothel?

They could be open again since Lucky's report was from 5/20.

Ok so I read the thread and what a bunch of BS. Everyone spreading misinformation. OP talked about a MASSAGE PARLOR being raided. That could happen because you are having paid sex on site in a group setting. That's like a brothel and illegal. Someone mentions Olina and all of a sudden all this rampant discussion. Olina is NOT a brothel. Perfect legal escort advertising service. Girls are independents. No shared facility. By definition NOT a brothel. Not illegal. No smoke. No fire. Just a bunch of people ranting about stuff with no basis in fact, except that presumably some massage parlor was raided. If that is even true.

[GoingDumb]

You have a link to an article or something? I mean prostitution is legal in UK and there must be 200 agencies in London alone. Maybe a trafficking thing given that it's Thai girls? Def would like a link not a rumor.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=344315.0

Sounds like if there's more than 2 girls it counts as a brothel?

They could be open again since Lucky's report was from 5/20.