Lisbon

[ExExpatriate]

Since this has come up recently, I want to add some recent local review board info about Klass Massage. This is a well-established knocking shop near Campo Pequeno. Two of their ladies, Vitoria and Melissa, recently got middling, satisfactory grades. 7 out of 10.

The main thing to note is the prices are still 60 e for 1/2 hour and 100 e for 1 hour.

This is a place where body to body massage ending in FS is standard.

I am linking to their own website, but all the ladies advertise on docemassagem, so those pics are verified.

http://www.klass-massage.com/

[Marco Capa]

Dear Kama LEão, Mongerer and ExExpatriate.

Wow! Many thanks for such extensive and detailed recommendations! I will make sure to meet at least a couple of these girls when I come to Lisbon in a month.

Really appreciate it.

As ExExpatriate and Mongerer have said, both Joana and Miss Margarida have, for quite some time, apparently given up / suspended their activity.

There's no one now remotely comparable to them. But you might try Bia / Ana Santos https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ntos-5091.html, https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-santos/ or Ins https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/.

[Kama Leão]

Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88.

I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.

Do you know if Joana is back again?

And my other favorite Miss Margarida?

If not, can you recommend someone comparable?

Muito obrigado.

As ExExpatriate and Mongerer have said, both Joana and Miss Margarida have, for quite some time, apparently given up / suspended their activity.

There's no one now remotely comparable to them. But you might try Bia / Ana Santos https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ntos-5091.html, https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-santos/ or Inês https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/.

[Mongerer88]

Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88,

I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.

Do you know if Joana is back again?

And my other favorite Miss Margarida?

If not, can you recommend someone comparable?

Muito obrigado.

Not sure if anal and CIM were reasons you liked these two, but here is another independent who is getting excellent reviews on the local board, appears to always be up for anal and CIM, and is not as expensive as many others, including the EP ladies who are charging a supplement for anal. The reviews say she has a little bit of a belly, but it is not described as being a major detriment. She goes by the names Bruna Monteiro and Maya. Her ads say she speaks English, but that has not been confirmed, and one of her ads says she accepts WhatsApp.

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompa...mpanhante=1196

https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/an...nha-adora-anal#group=galeria_340028&photo=340028.

https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/maya

[ExExpatriate]

If Margarida is who I am thinking of, there hasn't been a peep from or about her in at least 4 years. Maybe 5. Never met the lady. I only remember her reputation.

Joana de Sa has been known to stop advertising, but continue working and only see established clients. For a couple of years, in fact, she only advertised when her regulars weren't keeping her busy enough -- the she would "open the books." When she came back after the pandemic, she explicitly said she was only working part-time. She was already looking to transition out of escorting in 2019. So, she may be seeing only favored clients; she may be taking a break for whatever reason; or she may be retired.

Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88.

I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.

Do you know if Joana is back again?

And my other favorite Miss Margarida?

If not, can you recommend someone comparable?

Muito obrigado.

[Mongerer88]

Marco Capa,

The trail for those two goes cold on the local board. Hopefully Kama can find them for you. I did the post below with links to many independents with great reviews. Most are in their 30's and experienced, so it isn't that difficult to find a similar replacement, perhaps even an upgrade, for past loves.

You might pay particular attention to Ines and her many good reviews.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

While the post below has the most reviewed ladies, I should have included Tati Bernardi, who got an excellent review here on ISG and has mostly great reviews on the local board.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ardi-3753.html

And after I did that post, Clara Senna got a very good review here on ISG to go with her very good reviews on the local board.

https://www.portalprivado.com/en/bes...mpanhante=1237

As you know, I mostly track the Escort Privada ladies, which may not interest you, but they have several experienced ladies with great reviews. The ones listed below are all older than their listed ages.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/carlota-dalmeida/

https://escortprivada.com/escort/diana-real/

https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/

https://escortprivada.com/escort/julia-nobrega/

So if you review the post below that I bumped, and the links above, you will find plenty to choose from. In the post below, note that Carolina Belmont receives a lot of favorable mentions for extended dinner dates for English speakers, although extended dates with her are not inexpensive.

Here are the BBBJ independents with great reviews that are mentioned in the last 10 pages, or who I remember from past posts, in case any are of interest. I know I am not mentioning them all. The first one, Ines, is mentioned favorably now on all three big review boards. And Carolina Belmont is becoming something of a legend. Carolina, Rita and Adriana are all former EP ladies, so they know the outcall procedure.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...mont-6095.html

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...mes--5628.html

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ossi-6565.html

https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-...arro-3827.html.

[Marco Capa]

Joana (ex-Joana de S), the amazing Portuguese multi-orgasmic, squirting, BBBJ queen of the galaxy is back. https://docemassagem.com/massagista/joana-3/.

Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88.

I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.

Do you know if Joana is back again?

And my other favorite Miss Margarida?

If not, can you recommend someone comparable?

Muito obrigado.

[ExExpatriate]

Sugar baby ROTF

Saw a 40's balding white guy with a 20's thin, pretty Portuguese girl at breakfast at my hotel. Thought pretty strong move bringing her to breakfast. Then I noticed they didn't talk once and he looked at his phone the whole time and realized they probably are a couple.

[ExExpatriate]

I inquire from my foreign phone all the time, but I always ask if they speak English first. I speak some Portuguese, but don't pretend fluency. Maybe that is it -- it seems more polite.

Try starting with "Ola XXX, fala Ingles?

And sometimes they never respond. Maybe the lady was busy or not working or had a full schedule already that day, and figured there was no point in following up? It's considered bad manners by some to text back hours or days later, because it is indiscrete. Your wife might be right there.

You're right, I was using nationality = Portuguese as a filter, that narrows down the search quite a bit.

Thanks for the recommendations. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I tried texting a bunch of girls yesterday via WhatsApp, and only one replied so far. First I used Google Translate to get an introductory message in Portuguese and inquire about availability. Then, since some ladies mention they speak English, I tried sending messages in English as well. Again, no response. Maybe they get spooked by the fact that my phone number isn't local (starts with +1 country code)? One even seemed to have blocked me without replying, and I wasn't creepy at all, LOL. Just a polite greeting, and inquiry about availability.

[CasualHobbyist]

Most ads don't mention rates, and even when they do, one should ask first. Nobody minds being asked about rates and available services.

How much did you pay? Last I heard, Eller was asking 150/ HR for incall.

Not sure if that's OK to post rates here, but it was quite above that. Yeah, I was expecting more around 150, but I honestly didn't mind, had a really great time.

[ExExpatriate]

Most ads don't mention rates, and even when they do, one should ask first. Nobody minds being asked about rates and available services.

How much did you pay? Last I heard, Eller was asking 150/ HR for incall.

Got to see a beautiful Eller Rocha. Had a really good time. Amazing oral skills, and super tight and fit body. Also, very quick responses, and she was ready right on time. Pierced nipples is not really my thing, but I didn't mind too much. Also, I have a feeling that I paid a "tourist tax", since I mentioned that I'm visiting and her rate wasn't mentioned in the ad. But it was totally worth it in the end, and it's close to what I usually pay back home anyway. Another small issue was that she doesn't speak English (same as previous poster mentioned. That's my problem), but that didn't impact my experience much, she seemed to follow the directions rather well. DFK and BBBJ were on the menu, but no anal, which she mentioned in our exchange.

Thanks for all the recommendations, guys!

[CasualHobbyist]

Got to see a beautiful Eller Rocha. Had a really good time. Amazing oral skills, and super tight and fit body. Also, very quick responses, and she was ready right on time. Pierced nipples is not really my thing, but I didn't mind too much. Also, I have a feeling that I paid a "tourist tax", since I mentioned that I'm visiting and her rate wasn't mentioned in the ad. But it was totally worth it in the end, and it's close to what I usually pay back home anyway. Another small issue was that she doesn't speak English (same as previous poster mentioned. That's my problem), but that didn't impact my experience much, she seemed to follow the directions rather well. DFK and BBBJ were on the menu, but no anal, which she mentioned in our exchange.

Thanks for all the recommendations, guys!

[Shaidester]

1. Usually up-front. But, with some ladies, even on a first meeting, you can do it afterwards. It's not a rule but these tend to offer a better service.

2. The same.

3. It's up to you. I'd say something like 20% of the regular fee.

4. Not "a thing" but it may happen.

5. Not really. I think.

1. Very interesting. I've seen about 7-8 ladies in Lisbon, about half EP and half other websites and none have ever requested or even mentioned up-front payment. I had been leaving the money on a table in the room but never any mention of payment up front, even when I didn't do that (and just paid afterwards).

[Kama Leão]

1. Is payment usually provided up-front or afterwards?

2. Are requested (and agreed-to) extras paid for up-front or afterwards?

3. What is a reasonable tip for excellent service?

4. Is BBFS a thing in Portugal? (I once had a US provider surprise me mid-session.).

5. Is there anything that's unique to hobbying in Portugal that a newbie wouldn't know?

I apologize in advance for being so ignorant. I've been reading this forum religiously for the past two months and really appreciate the work that everyone is putting into it.

1. Usually up-front. But, with some ladies, even on a first meeting, you can do it afterwards. It's not a rule but these tend to offer a better service.

2. The same.

3. It's up to you. I'd say something like 20% of the regular fee.

4. Not "a thing" but it may happen.

5. Not really. I think.

[ExExpatriate]

When to pay is up to the lady or venue. It is sometimes before and sometimes after. Previously agreed upon extras would be folded into that, and tipping is not expected. So that is very much your call.

BBFS is not advertised. It is frowned upon, even scorned in the industry. My impression is asking for it during your WhatsApp exchange or call will terminate your inquiry half the time. The local board has been known to purge reports of and questions about it.

However, sometimes the lady digs you and it happens. That isn't an extra, more of a compliment.

I'll be spending a month in Lisbon early this summer and am planning to do a lot of hobbying. Since my experience is almost entirely limited to high-end escorts in a country where hobbying isn't legal, I'm hoping that one of you more experienced gentleman can do a little online mentoring. Here are my questions:

1. Is payment usually provided up-front or afterwards?

2. Are requested (and agreed-to) extras paid for up-front or afterwards?

3. What is a reasonable tip for excellent service?

4. Is BBFS a thing in Portugal? (I once had a US provider surprise me mid-session.).

5. Is there anything that's unique to hobbying in Portugal that a newbie wouldn't know?

I apologize in advance for being so ignorant. I've been reading this forum religiously for the past two months and really appreciate the work that everyone is putting into it.