Stupid shit in Medellin

[RamDavidson84]

We were especially kind to Colombia by relieving it of Panam by starting a fake revolution, and perhaps even kinder to Guatemala by using the CIA to overthrow their freely elected president. And obviously we were a godsend to Mxico by stealing half their territory via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Just before gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill. Mxico didn't need all that gold or the ports and coast of California and Oregon anyway. Nor the minerals in CO or AZ. The noble citizens of the Yew Ess deserved it much more because of Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine. And of course the Yew Ess engineered the outcome of the Mexican Revolution, whereupon the candidate they supported ran off with the entire treasury and was killed by his own security detail.

We did a bunch of noble shit in Chile too, assassinating their freely elected president. The Yew Ess is really a godsend to so may places, like Vietnam. Just so very noble, all that happened there.

Colombia refused to negotiate with the world to create the Panama Canal, so the Panamanians struck a deal to get the canal built and create a new nation. They then built the canal for the benefit of the world and the people of that region who still benefit from its' profits to this day. Look how much more wealthy Panama is compared to other Latin American nations. The world needed that shipping route and Colombia was standing in the way of global progress. I still don't condone the way it was done, but this did also take place during the "Age of Imperialism" when the strength of a bad actor's military was still mightier than the pen, this was just a reality of the time period. The United States using its' size and strength was not unique to just the USA, but all the world's most powerful nations.

Did Mexico have the means to extract and utilize the natural resources and bring civility and infrastructure to the lands in its' Northern Territories? No, they had 300 years to do it and they had just a few thousand settlers living there. For years, the USA pleaded with Mexico to allow the USA to purchase it's territory to build railroads which crossed the continent so the continent could be settled and cities and towns built where civilized modern societies could proser, but Mexico refused over and over again. This doesn't justify the war and it is still fucked up how the USA and Mexico settled this issue with violence, but again, this occurred almost 200 years ago in a very different time period and if you were not working tirelessly to defend and secure your territory, you were going to lose it. This was typical among all societies all over the world, look at the wars of Napoleon in Europe and the various conflicts and revolutions of South America. This is why Mexico quickly realized the war was not worth it and quickly surrendered and negotiated to sell these lands to the USA. And all that being said, I don't condone anything about the Mexican American War, but there is much more to it, than Americans are evil and took Advantage of Mexico. Do Americans still to this day sit around and cry about the "War of 1812" because the British attacked us and we blame all our problems on the British from wars that occurred 100,150, or 200 years ago- no we don't, because its silly.

The Gadsen Purchase was land Mexico peacefully sold to the USA.

Do not rewrite history with non-sense like, "The USA engineered the Mexican Revolution". There is no evidence to support that statement.

[Mr Enternational]

In fact, there are not many countries in the region that have not benefitted from the hand of the USA.

There is nothing for free. It is all give and get. China has started their thing in Africa and people are talking about how the Chinese are taking advantage of whatever. Depends on perspective. If the people were there thousands of years doing nothing with the resources and living in what some say are substandard conditions and some outsider comes and raises their standard of living while at the same time taking the resources that were laying there unused, is that a robbery?

Personally, I think it was genius that DeBeers convinced Westerners that a hole full of shiny rocks was worth something. Is it their fault that the natives did not think of it first?

[JustTK]

We were especially kind to Colombia by relieving it of Panama by starting a fake revolution, and perhaps even kinder to Guatemala by using the CIA to overthrow their freely elected president. And obviously we were a godsend to Mexico by stealing half their territory via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Just before gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill. Mexico didn't need all that gold or the ports and coast of California and Oregon anyway. Nor the minerals in CO or AZ. And of course the Yew Ess engineered the outcome of the Mexican Revolution, whereupon the candidate they supported ran off with the entire treasury and was killed by his own security detail.
We did a bunch of noble shit in Chile too, assassinating their freely elected president. The Yew Ess is really a godsend to so may places, like Vietnam.

And Dom Rep, Hiaiti, Nicaragua, Honduras, Granada, Puerto Rico, El Salvador, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Paraguay. And that's just the past 100 years. The USA is the benevolent friend of all in Latinland, a real godsend. In fact, there are not many countries in the region that have not benefitted from the hand of the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...ary_operations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._regime_change#1917:_Costa_Rica.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKwJI9axblQ

[JustTK]

You need to read the book Animal Farm.

You have just tried to rewrite history here my friend and I just want to clarify the facts. I was dating a Venezulan chica on and off when all this was going on. She eventually went back to her family in Caracas but we kept in touch for years and she was telling about what was happening as it happen.

Fact: The reason that the Venezualen economy collapsed was because Hugo Chavez put "price controls" in place and merchants could no longer charge enough for their products to get what they needed to resupply with imports. Because price controls are a fantasy. All this happened at least 5 years before the US put any sanctions on them meanwhile the governement officals all live like oligarchs in Venezuela.

It must be reassuring for you to know that the facts of modern day Vnzla are held in a fictional book written 70 years ago. And in the anecdotal knowledge of some girl that you know. I used to think that history was written by the vicstors of war, but clearly I was wrong. It was indeed written by some foreign gent 70 years before the event and by some random bird you met on your travels. Now that sounds like an episode for a new Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy book. Hehe.

[RamDavidson84]

You mean his comments about Cuba and Vnzla? - they made no sense whatsoever.

"The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment?

The reason these 2 struggle is due to the US embargo agsint both countries. Nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with the client vassel state stadning up against the mafia boss.

Do Cubans work in sex under socialism? Of course they do! What evidence does he have that it was better for mongers before Castro? None.

And Vnzlns too. Millions of them forced in to prostitution by the immoral embargo on Vznla by the capitalist bully. A fantastic bonanza for mongers.

So quite frankly, he is talking bollox. Its just a Gish Gallop against and an illogical attack on socialism without any substance.

USA is only 5% of the global population. Cuba can still trade with the European Union, Russia, China, and all of the South American nations, let's throw in African nations as well. Now how do you explain the fiscal irresponsibility of the Cuban and Venezuelan governments? Hmmm, maybe it's due to corruption and socialism? Nahhh- lets just blame it on the USA and ignore the fact that the two nations are run by dictators who refuse to allow democracy or a free market to determine the course of peoples lives and income. Who cares if corrupt dictators live in mansions while their beloved citizens eat out of the trash and father's allow their daughters to sell their pussies daily just to feed themselves. Let's just look the other way and totally blind ourselves to the millions of people who have fled these nations to the USA and other countries. I am not saying I agree with the USA embargo on the two countries, but I do believe their political and economic systems are to blame for the corruption of their government and their failing economy.

[Mojo Bandit]

The reason these 2 struggle is due to the US embargo agsint both countries.

You need to read the book Animal Farm.

You have just tried to rewrite history here my friend and I just want to clarify the facts. I was dating a Venezulan chica on and off when all this was going on. She eventually went back to her family in Caracas but we kept in touch for years and she was telling about what was happening as it happen.

Fact: The reason that the Venezualen economy collapsed was because Hugo Chavez put "price controls" in place and merchants could no longer charge enough for their products to get what they needed to resupply with imports. Because price controls are a fantasy. All this happened at least 5 years before the US put any sanctions on them meanwhile the governement officals all live like oligarchs in Venezuela.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...-idUSKBN18T2AD

[Huacho]

The USA has been a "Godsend" to the people of Latin America. The hard working, ambitious, innovative, highly educated, industrialized, and noble citizens of the USA have brought massive amounts of wealth, industry, political ideology, technology, and infrastructure to Latin America.

We were especially kind to Colombia by relieving it of Panamá by starting a fake revolution, and perhaps even kinder to Guatemala by using the CIA to overthrow their freely elected president. And obviously we were a godsend to México by stealing half their territory via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Just before gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill. México didn't need all that gold or the ports and coast of California and Oregon anyway. Nor the minerals in CO or AZ. The noble citizens of the Yew Ess deserved it much more because of Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine. And of course the Yew Ess engineered the outcome of the Mexican Revolution, whereupon the candidate they supported ran off with the entire treasury and was killed by his own security detail.

We did a bunch of noble shit in Chile too, assassinating their freely elected president. The Yew Ess is really a godsend to so may places, like Vietnam. Just so very noble, all that happened there.

[RamDavidson84]

Great speech by the president of Bolivia, about the growing popularity and power of political parties for the people in Latin America.

He calls for a shared homeland in South America. Hopefully Colombia will soon stop being the outtcast vassal state of the USA and join withtheir brothers and sisters to present a united front against oligarchy and exploitation of the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kZhX_FuVU

I am curious how you view Colombia / Latin America as a vassal state to the USA? Do not fluff your answer with an irrelevant history of racism in the USA. I want to hear how today in 2020 in a land as rich and plentiful in Natural Resources as Colombia you think their poverty is the fault of the USA or "Oligarchs". I am not exactly sure what a "modern" vassal state is in your opinion, but this is how I interpreted your post. If I am wrong I apologize. It just seems ridiculous to me that a nation with a 500 year documented history and a population of over 50 million could be coerced into a mutual agreement with the USA which could result in a relationship which would hurt Colombia financially. Now I am sure the USA could use its global influence to get Colombia to perhaps agree to a financial relationship in which the USA gets the better of the deal, but I cannot comprehend how you could view any relationship between the two nations as a "Vassal" type relationship as you defined it. Any treaty Colombia is going to sign with another nation is going to somehow benefit Colombia, or they wouldn't sign the thing in the first place.

The USA has been a "Godsend" to the people of Latin America. The hard working, ambitious, innovative, highly educated, industrialized, and noble citizens of the USA have brought massive amounts of wealth, industry, political ideology, technology, and infrastructure to Latin America. After spending a great deal of time traveling to Latin America, I feel like Americans are the modern day slaves. Many Americans, especially white males, put their careers first and foremost before anything. This comes at a sacrifice in many other areas of life, such as a social and family life. To many American white males, to not succeed is unacceptable and anything less is an unforgivable sin. This is why white American males by far have the highest suicide rates. We place a very high value on our self worth in our ability to truly dedicate ourselves to a craft or a skill or in modern day terms a "career". This unselfish dedication is what has contributed most to building western society into the greatest most advanced civilization the world has ever known. I hope Latin America likes airplanes, nuclear power, automobiles, antibiotics, and democracy- because they all came from a group of people who most contributed to the success of the USA and this excess wealth and technology, has for generations spilled over into Latin America and even allowed many people from Latin America to come seek employment opportunities in the USA. I sometimes wonder what it would have been like to grow up in Colombia and just roam the streets, hang out with my friend, sell drugs, and bang smoking hot women for the first 25 or 30 years of my life like many Colombian men. It doesn't sound like a bad time at all. Sometimes I feel like Americans are the fools. Many Americans spend their youth staying up all night studying in school, training in competitive athletics to bring pride to your family and community, showing up to work on time no matter how sick or tired.

To me, when people state things like, "Colombia is a vassal state to the USA", it just comes off as really ungrateful be. S. And an excuse as to why maybe their country is not as wealthy as the USA. Wealth isn't everything, but if you don't put the work in you will not a nation of home owners, suv drivers, full pensiones, and healthcare with the best doctors in the world.

Hehehe In case you are wondering, I don't really believe all the be. S. I just wrote and I did write it to annoy all the liberals out there. Don't snap back at me too hard, but it is always a good idea to try to look at things from all perspectives.

[JustTK]

Great speech by the president of Bolivia, about the growing popularity and power of political parties for the people in Latin America.

He calls for a shared homeland in South America. Hopefully Colombia will soon stop being the outtcast vassal state of the USA and join withtheir brothers and sisters to present a united front against oligarchy and exploitation of the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kZhX_FuVU

[JustTK]

Did you know that almost 98% of the universe is hydrogen and helium?

So the other 2%, the minority elements are what give life and diversity to our universe. If there were no minorities, our world would be very boring and mundane indeed. Just leaving that one out there.

[JustTK]

LatinLover#1 listed two examples.

You mean his comments about Cuba and Vnzla? - they made no sense whatsoever.

"The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment?

The reason these 2 struggle is due to the US embargo agsint both countries. Nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with the client vassel state stadning up against the mafia boss.

Do Cubans work in sex under socialism? Of course they do! What evidence does he have that it was better for mongers before Castro? None.

And Vnzlns too. Millions of them forced in to prostitution by the immoral embargo on Vznla by the capitalist bully. A fantastic bonanza for mongers.

So quite frankly, he is talking bollox. Its just a Gish Gallop against and an illogical attack on socialism without any substance.

[Fun Luvr]

Can you give some examples or are you just talking out your arse bcos you know nothing about socialism and its all too scary for you?

LatinLover#1 listed two examples.

[JustTK]

however, the leaders could care less about the masses..

Surely that's a good thing, no?

I would love to respond to your comment in detail but you wrote so much bollox that it is not worth my time.

All i can day is viva Petro!!?

[JustTK]

A left progressivist government has never been good for mongering activities, sooner or later there will be a deep cleaning of prostitution places, massages parlor, 'clubs, casas. It did happen every where the progressist have taken control. Colombia is soon a dead place for mongering so enjoy it now because if's soon over.

Can you give some examples or are you just talking out your arse bcos you know nothing about socialism and its all too scary for you?

[JjBee62]

How did you get off the ignore list SFB.

You'll have to ask the fool who manages your ignore list.