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06-07-22 05:22 #4383
Posts: 737Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
But you were probably born a jingo. Often jingoes are born and not made.
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06-07-22 00:05 #4382
Posts: 395Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
It's strange how today people are so proud that their countries or their ancestors got fucked up by the USA and then they pretend their people are so great because they didn't have the means, the balls, or the gumption to band together to even fight a war. And look at all the countries who sat on the side lines, now they are still living in poverty because they couldn't take a stand and fight for their people or they foolishly elected corrupt leaders who were bought by more powerful nations, or they just let dictators destroy their societies. LOL It's just weird how people love to make themselves victims today, all that matters is that someone comes from a country that was defeated and raped by another country and that makes them a good person. Personally, I am kinda sick of that hearing that pussy shit. Anybody who hates on a guy like Pershing is just a fucking sour grape crybaby-back *****! Hahaha. Take my post with a grain of salt and if I offended anyone, I am just being a dick and don't take it serious please.
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06-06-22 08:51 #4381
Posts: 1056Pearls before American Swine
Originally Posted by Huacho [View Original Post]
Good old Panama and Noriega who went from American puppet to American prisoner.
You mention General Pershing, a real ****, even by American standards. On Armistice Day, 11-11-1918, he got his men to charge the German lines a few minutes early so they could have hot showers. The incredulous Germans waved them to wait but no. They needed their showers. German machine gunners showered them with lead. They were among the last fatalities of the Great War. Great General Pershing.
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06-06-22 05:06 #4380
Posts: 737Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
In the case of Guatemala and Juan Jacobo Árbenz Guzmáand, Árbenz in 1952 expropriated idle land from United Fruit Company and redistributed it to peasants for housing. Then he supported a wage increase from about fifty cents a (10 hour) day to about seventy-five cents a day. This was at a time when the US minimum wage was about the same per hour. The former president of United Fruit, Thomas Dulles, was the brother of US Secretary of State John Foster Dulles. TD was still on the board of directors and JFD had previously been a board member. So they sent the CIA in, trained a force in Somoza's Nicaragua, and simply overthrew Árbenz. Somoza was another despot the Yew Ess supported, along with Noriega, José Efraíand Areíos Montt, etc.
Then the Yew Ess fucken exiled Árbenz, his wife, and his daughter to three different countries. Árbenz drank himself to death in México and his daughter committed suicide in Colombia. Not satisfied to have merely overthrown him, they persecuted him and his family for the rest of his life, running disinformation and smear campaigns.
And of course the CIA continued to overthrow freely elected presidents they deemed too progressive, such as Salvador Allende in Chile.
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06-06-22 04:06 #4379
Posts: 395Originally Posted by Huacho [View Original Post]
Sorry, I meant to say I am not very familiar with the subject.
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06-06-22 04:00 #4378
Posts: 395Originally Posted by Huacho [View Original Post]
Humans have a long history of greed fueling warfare and of course Americans are no stranger to this.
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06-06-22 03:12 #4377
Posts: 2581Jaja
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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06-05-22 18:44 #4376
Posts: 406New means to control
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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06-05-22 17:37 #4375
Posts: 737Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
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06-05-22 17:15 #4374
Posts: 737Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
Deeds, Susan M. (1996). "Gadsden Purchase". Encyclopedia of Latin American History and Culture. Vol. 3. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons. Pp. 1–2.
Ibarra, Ignacio (February 12,2004). "Land sale still thorn to Mexico: Historians say United States imperialism behind treaty". Arizona Daily Star.
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
https://veteranmuseum.net/research-u...ons-in-mexico/#text=President%20 Woodrow%20 Wilson%20 was%20 reluctant, by%20 seizing%20 the%20 port%20 of.
One of the first things Wilson did after he was inaugurated was pressure him to resign, and imposed an arms embargo when he did not. Read Freidrich Katz's 'The Secret War in México,' or Alan Knight's 'The US and the Méxican Peasantry,' to give two of the many examples of evidence. Or just read this wiki article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...can_Revolution
"the USA Navy bombarded the port of Veracruz and occupied Veracruz for seven months. Woodrow Wilson's actual motivation was his desire to overthrow Huerta.
Or: "The prevailing view among historians has been that Wilson interfered and intervened in México incessantly".
That's from 'Woodrow Wilson's Mexican Policy, 1913-1915' by KA Clements.
Maybe you prefer the Encyclopedia Britannica: 'The constitutionalist forces won the support of Woodrow Wilson, the new USA President, who refused to recognize Huerta, constitutionalist forces = Carranza.
And yeah, Panamá is now wealthy relative to most of Latin América. All of that should have accrued to Colombia. The efforts of de Lesseps shows that Colombia was willing to let a canal be built, just not for the price the Yew Ess was willing to pay.
You sound you still believe in 'manifest destiny' and appear to have no problems with the Monroe Doctrine. You should have been at Dien Bien Phu fighting for the French.
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06-05-22 14:28 #4373
Posts: 1828Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
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06-04-22 17:43 #4372
Posts: 3365Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
The shocking part to me was going to a Venezuelan shareholder meeting where I got to see up close and personal how Venezuelans were. Even though Venezuelan law stipulated that 25% of all net income had to be paid out in dividends and Verizon owned 24% of the stock, I had to listen to worker after worker * about money being sent to the Verizon gringos. The workers were mad that the law was being followed and money was "wasted" by being sent to the rich gringos at Verizon. Meanwhile, Verizon / GTE had sprung for all the infrastructure in the country. They had built a thriving business and it was doing so well that Chavez decided to come in and steal it. Instead of asking to buy the company from shareholders, Chavez demanded the company and paid $20 a share. It was my feeling that the current value of the stock was $100 and could go up to as high as $500, but the Venezuelans were so deeply entrenched with the gringo ripoff they had the belief Chavez would be better.
In the end, Chavez tried to pull the same shit with oil companies. The world was thinking peak oil and Chavez thought companies like Exxon had to deal with them. Nope. Exxon invested in the USA and shale tech. Thing is the cost of production is 20 X that of the USA then it is in Venezuela but they knew how Chavez was. He would never keep his word. Every time, he would claim a company was cheating Venezuela, he would come in and either steal it or give pennies on the dollar. It was not just the gringos. The Chinese put a billion into a poultry farm and even had Chinese workers, and the Venezuelans managed to bankrupt that operation.
In the end, Venezuela, which has the largest oil reserves in the world, has seen their production shrink to just a trickle. By controlling every facet of the economy it left Chavez no competition for power, and the guy who so hated money and the rich so much smuggled $8 billion in cash and put it in his daughter's name who lives in the gringo city of Miami.
So how is Bolivia accomplishing an economic miracle when it is doing all it can to steal from investors? It is the same as Venezuela. Chavez got rid of all the legal businesses but the drug trade fought him and was allowed to flourish, and this current Bolivian president is talking about growing "legitimate" cocoa. Give me a fucking break. The Bolivian economic miracle is due to nothing but cocaine sales. If the USA ever got its head out of its ass and allowed drugs to be sold like it did with marijuana, the USA would be exporting cocaine to Bolivia because we could probably produce it better and cheaper than Bolivia could.
When I hear the rallying cry that government is the answer to everything and gringos are evil, I can scratch off investing a nickel into that country. Venezuela should be as rich as Saudi Arabia, and the reason it is not because people like me will never put one penny into until the culture is changed. The easiest way to have a poor country is saying government is going to fill all the people's needs. That shows contempt for those investors and managers who develop businesses that really cater to people's needs.
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06-04-22 16:27 #4371
Posts: 689Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
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06-04-22 15:31 #4370
Posts: 395Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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06-04-22 15:27 #4369
Posts: 395Originally Posted by Huacho [View Original Post]
Did Mexico have the means to extract and utilize the natural resources and bring civility and infrastructure to the lands in its' Northern Territories? No, they had 300 years to do it and they had just a few thousand settlers living there. For years, the USA pleaded with Mexico to allow the USA to purchase it's territory to build railroads which crossed the continent so the continent could be settled and cities and towns built where civilized modern societies could proser, but Mexico refused over and over again. This doesn't justify the war and it is still fucked up how the USA and Mexico settled this issue with violence, but again, this occurred almost 200 years ago in a very different time period and if you were not working tirelessly to defend and secure your territory, you were going to lose it. This was typical among all societies all over the world, look at the wars of Napoleon in Europe and the various conflicts and revolutions of South America. This is why Mexico quickly realized the war was not worth it and quickly surrendered and negotiated to sell these lands to the USA. And all that being said, I don't condone anything about the Mexican American War, but there is much more to it, than Americans are evil and took Advantage of Mexico. Do Americans still to this day sit around and cry about the "War of 1812" because the British attacked us and we blame all our problems on the British from wars that occurred 100,150, or 200 years ago- no we don't, because its silly.
The Gadsen Purchase was land Mexico peacefully sold to the USA.
Do not rewrite history with non-sense like, "The USA engineered the Mexican Revolution". There is no evidence to support that statement.