American Politics

[EihTooms]

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions. If they would have gotten just a common cold many would have died. One death is too many, but you guys just make shit up.

Yep, that's how Trump mass murdered most of the 1 million Americans who died in Trump's Pandemic so far and counting.

Like you and in order to con you into aiding and abetting his mass murders if he couldn't murder you first, he did it by being hostile to science, lying about the severity of it, mocking the known mitigation measures, demanding less not more testing so we could remain ignorant about it longer, dismissive to the idea that anyone should bother to invent a vaccine for it at all much less risk getting one of those Bill Gates microchips he created in a peach tree dish implanted in your arm by getting a vaccination for it.

I mean, why should any country bother inventing, distributing or taking a vaccine for something so mild and insignificant almost half the people who died from it were already climbing into their caskets, right?

And it isn't like some idiot ex game show was spouting this deadly, economy-destroying nonsense on the Game Show Channel. No, it was a so-called potus declaring it on the world stage trying to con anyone and everyone on the planet to believe him.

Consequently, after the millions of deaths around the world, millions upon millions of jobs wiped out, international travel for fun or business crippled perhaps forever, whole industries and worldwide economies destroyed or plunged into paralysis for 2 years, we now have global Supply-Chain Destruction hyper-inflation and high gas prices to deal with.

Confirming once again that anyone who did not vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 when they could have or has since denigrated Dems and praised or supported Trump and / or his Repubs is more responsible for all those deaths, the millions upon millions of jobs and businesses destroyed and, most certainly, the current inflation, high gas prices and economic stress-triggered crime than Joe Biden or any other Dem.

By far.

[DramaFree11]

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions. If they would have gotten just a common cold many would have died. One death is too many, but you guys just make shit up.

Mistake, you said one Million, your are correct, I should wear my glasses and not drink.

[ScatManDoo]

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions.

Why would you think the preexisting conditions would not be present in the other countries?

Like the countries that handled Covid-19 much better than the US did.

[Gino02]

Yeah right! LOL.

[Gino02]

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions. If they would have gotten just a common cold many would have died. One death is too many, but you guys just make shit up.

These guys still support Buyden, you can't expect them to not make shit up. That's how they put this moron in the White House anyway.

[DramaFree11]

The USA has 7. 5% of global deaths? Where did you pull that figure from? There have been about 6. 3 million COVID deaths worldwide according to Worldometers. The US has more than a million of those deaths. Maybe you learned math in a Republican school but the Democratic school that I went to taught that 1 million divided by 6. 3 million is about 15%. But I said specifically "when Cheeto Tweeto left office" which you, obviously, chose to ignore. At that time, we had about 20% of the world's deaths. We still have about 4% of the world's population. The Orange Buffoon is responsible for a good percentage of those million deaths.

Look at the Worldometers link https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Then sort it by "deaths per million people". Look at the countries with more deaths than the US. All of them are "poor" countries. Then look at Canada, our relatively wealthy northern neighbor. Their death rate is 1/3 of ours. They were more vigilant and more restrictive than the US. So sure, the restrictions didn't work.

Most of what President Biden hasn't gotten done is because the MAGAt party has filibustered virtually everything.

By the way, the Venezuelans can vote out Maduro any time they want just like the US voted out the Orange Buffoon.

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions. If they would have gotten just a common cold many would have died. One death is too many, but you guys just make shit up.

[EihTooms]

Right on cue:

Fox & Friends fearmongers that the largest-ever migrant caravan is gathering in Mexico
Co-host Brian Kilmeade: There's over 10,000 illegal immigrants set to storm our borders, two thirds of which are women and children who then become our responsibility to clothe, to food, to school

https://www.mediamatters.org/brian-k...thering-mexico

I long for the day when Repubs can truthfully and accurately run for election on their record of positive economic, national security and foreign policy results being at least marginally competitive to those of their Dem opponents. Can't recall a time when they could do that over the past several decades. Instead, they have to run on hyped up irrelevant social war issues to con suckers into voting for them.

I hope the caravan is filled with applicants for some of the millions of jobs Biden and the Dems have created in this Great Dem Recovery from the recent Great Repub Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction that have gone unfilled to date.

[EihTooms]

Well, if he promised it, then its a broken promise, right? . And in reality, all it takes are a few significant ones to each voter and they will lose confidence. . I also don't think you should lend so much weight to criticism Trump for everything. I'ts not true and also it's not great optics.

I think you should not work so hard to "Bothside" consistent Dem economic recoveries, expansion and historic jobs creation with consistent Great Repub Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction. Doing that only serves to help Repubs produce more Great Recessions, destroy millions more USA jobs and makes it look like that is your goal.

[PVMonger]

Right! And you just can't see it, can you? You do it every time. You divert the discussion in to smthg you can attack. Whether X or why is partisan is irrelevant to the discussion.

Whether or not a source is partisan is the central premise of the discussion. For instance, I can guarantee that some source, somewhere, says that the earth is flat. But everybody in their right mind knows that the earth is not flat. So if I say that the earth is flat and cite that source as proof, my argument is invalid.

[PVMonger]

Right. There is no evidence. Only speculation, as you point out yourself. Yes, the USA has one of the worst death rates (nowhere near as bad as you claim, but still bad. USA has about 7. 5% of global deaths), but you can only speculate that the response dept would have had a meaningful positive effect. Same goes for Biden.

Again, total deflection. What does this have to do with Biden's record of broken promises?

Again, deflection. Many countries have mabragoed Venezuela bcos of USA intimidation and alliances. If Biden ended the embargo, he would end the oil crisis. And the immoral starvation of the Venezuelan people.

I don't understand this last comment. Are you asking me what I think the USA should have done? It should have respected the NATO promises that it made since 1990 - more broken promises by both Dems and Reps. Now it should be advocating for a peace settlment, not promoting a proxy war where Ukrainians die for the benefit of USA economic interests.

The USA has 7. 5% of global deaths? Where did you pull that figure from? There have been about 6. 3 million COVID deaths worldwide according to Worldometers. The US has more than a million of those deaths. Maybe you learned math in a Republican school but the Democratic school that I went to taught that 1 million divided by 6. 3 million is about 15%. But I said specifically "when Cheeto Tweeto left office" which you, obviously, chose to ignore. At that time, we had about 20% of the world's deaths. We still have about 4% of the world's population. The Orange Buffoon is responsible for a good percentage of those million deaths.

Look at the Worldometers link https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Then sort it by "deaths per million people". Look at the countries with more deaths than the US. All of them are "poor" countries. Then look at Canada, our relatively wealthy northern neighbor. Their death rate is 1/3 of ours. They were more vigilant and more restrictive than the US. So sure, the restrictions didn't work.

Most of what President Biden hasn't gotten done is because the MAGAt party has filibustered virtually everything.

By the way, the Venezuelans can vote out Maduro any time they want just like the US voted out the Orange Buffoon.

[JustTK]

The problem with your list is the partisan authors count as "broken" anything Biden hasn't gotten done in the first 17 months of his presidency while Trump's Pandemic continues to spin in new, economy crippling directions.

Well, if he promised it, then its a broken promise, right? . And in reality, all it takes are a few significant ones to each voter and they will lose confidence. . I also don't think you should lend so much weight to criticisng Trump for everything. I'ts not true and also it's not great optics.

[Paulie97]

Trump is not to blame. That being said he needs to go away and let all of us move on with our lives.

Nothing including Trump is stopping you from moving on with your life. All that prevents that is your incessant whining. If you live in the states or Western Europe you have a quality of life most people can only dream of, even while paying $5 for a gallon of gas. If you can afford to buy hookers then you can pay $5 for a gallon of gas. Much of the problem here in the states is people buying far more vehicle than they need, giant pickups and SUVs, serves them right when gas prices hike. Compare your life to your typical peasant during the Middle Ages, WOW. If you are waiting for all the world news to turn good before you can enjoy yourself then you will be waiting forever.

As to the pandemic, I'll take a moment to confirm that I called it exactly, that it would last two to three years. That's the same as all the other pandemics since the beginning of recorded history. It's easy for those that could ignore the online right wingnut conspiracy theories and fake science, read a history book, and acquire a bit of patience. And balanced mitigation measures made sense to keep hospitals from overflowing, and to buy time until we could develop vaccines and effective treatments.

[JustTK]

No evidence? Of what? That the lack of the pandemic response team had no effect? When the Orange Buffoon left office, the US had 20% of worldwide deaths with only 4% of worldwide population. Virtually every single one of the wealthiest countries in the world did better than that! The Pandemic Response Team might have had an impact.

Right. There is no evidence. Only speculation, as you point out yourself. Yes, the USA has one of the worst death rates (nowhere near as bad as you claim, but still bad. USA has about 7. 5% of global deaths), but you can only speculate that the response dept would have had a meaningful positive effect. Same goes for Biden.

But Corporal Bone Spurs actions, lies and general incompetence caused the vast majority of US deaths. Drink bleach! Shove a lightbulb up your ass! Don't wear a mask! Take sheep dip! Don't get vaccinated! It will magically disappear! It is a hoax!

Again, total deflection. What does this have to do with Biden's record of broken promises?

Venezuelan oil? You realize that Cheeto Tweeto banned Venezuelan oil in 2017. And virtually the entire world has banned imports of Venezuelan oil. But sure, let's support Maduro by bringing in his oil.

Again, deflection. Many countries have mabragoed Venezuela bcos of USA intimidation and alliances. If Biden ended the embargo, he would end the oil crisis. And the immoral starvation of the Venezuelan people.

Are another Republican idiot who thinks that Biden should have attacked Russia pre-emptively? Or done nothing?

I don't understand this last comment. Are you asking me what I think the USA should have done? It should have respected the NATO promises that it made since 1990 - more broken promises by both Dems and Reps. Now it should be advocating for a peace settlment, not promoting a proxy war where Ukrainians die for the benefit of USA economic interests.

[JustTK]

Who attacked the messenger? I attacked the facts that: 1. Politifact is non-partisan; and 2. RNC Research is partisan.

Right! And you just can't see it, can you? You do it EVERY TIME. You divert the discussion in to smthg you can attack. Whether X or why is partisan is irrelevant to the discussion.

[JustTK]

I'll add this to the Nothing To Refute Trump Being To Blame list
1 in 10,000 Americans have the slightest clue why gas prices are so high and your tortured reasoning barely touches on it. Meanwhile, everything in global Supply-Chains shot up due to the whipsaw 2 year Low Demand Crash vs 17 month Recovery High Demand / Low Supply issue, not just gas.
Which, again, has nothing whatsoever to do with anything Biden either did or didn't do. In stark contrast to why Trump's disastrous economic stewardship is much to blame for the economic disaster of Trump's Pandemic.

You can deny it all you want, but the truth is that you are in the minority. The majority of USAns now recognise that Biden has broken lots of promises to THEM. What is it now, 67% of them?

What was the big one he ran on? Build back better? The Stimulation package he promnised and failed to deliver. Yet he had plenty of cash to spend on new miliitary. Likesays, you cannot see it, but most USAns can.