American Politics

[JustTK]

Why do you ignoramuses believe that President Biden's COVID performance isn't related to moronic MAGAts refusing to get vaccinated, refusing to wear masks, refusing to to anything to protect others. Is your head so far up your ass that you don't see that Cheeto Tweeto is the one responsible for the attitudes of his dumber-than-dog-shit supporters? You can believe any idiotic thing that you want to but don't piss on me and tell me that it is raining.
Your source doesn't provide any "per capita" data which is the only meaningful way to examine numbers. But let's take your source and look at Canada.

You really have a strange way of trying to make others look stupid. Normally people would do that by making intelligent comments, but not you.

Now you want to look at Canada! Haha. You make me laugh. The issue is Biden's performance. WTF does Canada have to do with that? You are obsesesed with Trump. Are you his mother or smthg?

You say it is obvious how Trump's performance effects Biden's performance on COVID yet so far you have failed to provide even the slightest evidence. So please kindly explainfor us dummies.

Also please explain who "you people" are. I am curious about whch bucket you have put the rest of the world in.

[Gino02]

Why would you think the preexisting conditions would not be present in the other countries?

Like the countries that handled Covid-19 much better than the US did.

Tell me which country has the worst obesity problem? LOL.

[PVMonger]

I am very familiar with Worldometers thank you. I don't need lessons in maths. WoM is very inaccurate. Difefrent recording policies and dedicated resources, deliberate false underrecording. Excess deaths are far harder to cheat. So I use this: https://covid19.healthdata.org/globa...aths&tab=trend . World shows 17.1 million deaths, USA shows 1. 26 million deaths. I won't insult you with the maths. Yes I ignored your comments on Trump bcos they are irrelevant. This is a conversation on Biden's performance. In what way does Trump's poor COVID performance reflect on Biden's COVID performance? Yet another attempt at deflection. Maybe you still confuse me with a Trump supporter.

Really? I thought it was members of their own party that were preventing the Dems from doing much. Why does Biden allow his own party members to sabotage their plans?

Why do you ignoramuses believe that President Biden's COVID performance isn't related to moronic MAGAts refusing to get vaccinated, refusing to wear masks, refusing to to anything to protect others. Is your head so far up your ass that you don't see that Cheeto Tweeto is the one responsible for the attitudes of his dumber-than-dog-shit supporters? You can believe any idiotic thing that you want to but don't piss on me and tell me that it is raining.

Your source doesn't provide any "per capita" data which is the only meaningful way to examine numbers. But let's take your source and look at Canada. Your source shows 56 K COVID deaths in Canada (Worldometers shows 100 K) assuming that Canada's population hasn't changed drastically, Canada then has about 1/2 the COVID deaths per capita than that shown on Worldometers. The US has 5 times that. Similar population demographics, similar population ages, similar population wealth, etc. The difference? The US had a dumber-than-dogshit.

Leader early in the pandemic who did everything in his power to lie to the American people.

If you knew how Congress worked, you would know that every proposal that is not budget related requires 60 votes in the Senate to pass. This is called the filibuster. Currently, Democrats have 48 Senators, Republicans have 50 and there are 2 Independents. While it is true that the 2 Independent Senators vote with Democrats most of the time, that still doesn't change the fact that at least 10 Republican Senators must "switch sides" and vote with the Democrats to pass anything that isn't budget related. Who cares if 1 or 2 Democrats don't vote for a Democratic proposal because there wouldn't have been 10 Republican Senators who would have voted for it anyway. I realize that what I've said is far too difficult for you to grasp but I can't make it any simpler.

[JustTK]

I think you should not work so hard to "Bothside" consistent Dem economic recoveries, expansion and historic jobs creation with consistent Great Repub Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction.

I am not "bothsides". I am "neitherside" hehe. Both those parties are corrupt, right wing corporate shills, that do nothing but further enrich the wealthy. The system needs changing, not the party.

[JustTK]

Whether or not a source is partisan is the central premise of the discussion. For instance, I can guarantee that some source, somewhere, says that the earth is flat. But everybody in their right mind knows that the earth is not flat. So if I say that the earth is flat and cite that source as proof, my argument is invalid.

Not at all. If one is to present "evidence" for a flat earth, what type of source would one expect other than from a supporter of flat earth? The appropriate response would be to criticise the evidence, not the source.

[JustTK]

The USA has 7. 5% of global deaths? Where did you pull that figure from? There have been about 6. 3 million COVID deaths worldwide according to Worldometers. The US has more than a million of those deaths. Maybe you learned math in a Republican school but the Democratic school that I went to taught that 1 million divided by 6. 3 million is about 15%. But I said specifically "when Cheeto Tweeto left office" which you, obviously, chose to ignore. At that time, we had about 20% of the world's deaths. We still have about 4% of the world's population. The Orange Buffoon is responsible for a good percentage of those million deaths.

I am very familiar with Worldometers thank you. I don't need lessons in maths. WoM is very inaccurate. Difefrent recording policies and dedicated resources, deliberate false underrecording. Excess deaths are far harder to cheat. So I use this: https://covid19.healthdata.org/globa...aths&tab=trend . World shows 17.1 million deaths, USA shows 1. 26 million deaths. I won't insult you with the maths. Yes I ignored your comments on Trump bcos they are irrelevant. This is a conversation on Biden's performance. In what way does Trump's poor COVID performance reflect on Biden's COVID performance? Yet another attempt at deflection. Maybe you still confuse me with a Trump supporter.

Most of what President Biden hasn't gotten done is because the MAGAt party has filibustered virtually everything.
By the way, the Venezuelans can vote out Maduro any time they want just like the US voted out the Orange Buffoon.

Really? I thought it was members of their own party that were preventing the Dems from doing much. Why does Biden allow his own party members to sabotage their plans?

By the way, the Venezuelans can vote out Maduro any time they want just like the US voted out the Orange Buffoon.

If you remember, USA financed a successful coup (overthrown), then another (failed) attempt, then announced they recognised a puppet as president and refused to recognise Maduro. Biden prefers to starve the Venezuelan people to death and cause worldwide hyperinflation, than buy oil from Venezuela. What a disgusting immoral policy and man he is. Way to go! Another vote of confidence from me!

[EihTooms]

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions. If they would have gotten just a common cold many would have died. One death is too many, but you guys just make shit up.

Yep, that's how Trump mass murdered most of the 1 million Americans who died in Trump's Pandemic so far and counting.

Like you and in order to con you into aiding and abetting his mass murders if he couldn't murder you first, he did it by being hostile to science, lying about the severity of it, mocking the known mitigation measures, demanding less not more testing so we could remain ignorant about it longer, dismissive to the idea that anyone should bother to invent a vaccine for it at all much less risk getting one of those Bill Gates microchips he created in a peach tree dish implanted in your arm by getting a vaccination for it.

I mean, why should any country bother inventing, distributing or taking a vaccine for something so mild and insignificant almost half the people who died from it were already climbing into their caskets, right?

And it isn't like some idiot ex game show was spouting this deadly, economy-destroying nonsense on the Game Show Channel. No, it was a so-called potus declaring it on the world stage trying to con anyone and everyone on the planet to believe him.

Consequently, after the millions of deaths around the world, millions upon millions of jobs wiped out, international travel for fun or business crippled perhaps forever, whole industries and worldwide economies destroyed or plunged into paralysis for 2 years, we now have global Supply-Chain Destruction hyper-inflation and high gas prices to deal with.

Confirming once again that anyone who did not vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 when they could have or has since denigrated Dems and praised or supported Trump and / or his Repubs is more responsible for all those deaths, the millions upon millions of jobs and businesses destroyed and, most certainly, the current inflation, high gas prices and economic stress-triggered crime than Joe Biden or any other Dem.

By far.

[DramaFree11]

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions. If they would have gotten just a common cold many would have died. One death is too many, but you guys just make shit up.

Mistake, you said one Million, your are correct, I should wear my glasses and not drink.

[ScatManDoo]

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions.

Why would you think the preexisting conditions would not be present in the other countries?

Like the countries that handled Covid-19 much better than the US did.

[Gino02]

Yeah right! LOL.

[Gino02]

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions. If they would have gotten just a common cold many would have died. One death is too many, but you guys just make shit up.

These guys still support Buyden, you can't expect them to not make shit up. That's how they put this moron in the White House anyway.

[DramaFree11]

The USA has 7. 5% of global deaths? Where did you pull that figure from? There have been about 6. 3 million COVID deaths worldwide according to Worldometers. The US has more than a million of those deaths. Maybe you learned math in a Republican school but the Democratic school that I went to taught that 1 million divided by 6. 3 million is about 15%. But I said specifically "when Cheeto Tweeto left office" which you, obviously, chose to ignore. At that time, we had about 20% of the world's deaths. We still have about 4% of the world's population. The Orange Buffoon is responsible for a good percentage of those million deaths.

Look at the Worldometers link https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Then sort it by "deaths per million people". Look at the countries with more deaths than the US. All of them are "poor" countries. Then look at Canada, our relatively wealthy northern neighbor. Their death rate is 1/3 of ours. They were more vigilant and more restrictive than the US. So sure, the restrictions didn't work.

Most of what President Biden hasn't gotten done is because the MAGAt party has filibustered virtually everything.

By the way, the Venezuelans can vote out Maduro any time they want just like the US voted out the Orange Buffoon.

You guys, just make shit up. There was not 6.5 million deaths, this ridiculous. Property 30-40% of the deaths had major pre-existing conditions. If they would have gotten just a common cold many would have died. One death is too many, but you guys just make shit up.

[EihTooms]

Right on cue:

Fox & Friends fearmongers that the largest-ever migrant caravan is gathering in Mexico
Co-host Brian Kilmeade: There's over 10,000 illegal immigrants set to storm our borders, two thirds of which are women and children who then become our responsibility to clothe, to food, to school

https://www.mediamatters.org/brian-k...thering-mexico

I long for the day when Repubs can truthfully and accurately run for election on their record of positive economic, national security and foreign policy results being at least marginally competitive to those of their Dem opponents. Can't recall a time when they could do that over the past several decades. Instead, they have to run on hyped up irrelevant social war issues to con suckers into voting for them.

I hope the caravan is filled with applicants for some of the millions of jobs Biden and the Dems have created in this Great Dem Recovery from the recent Great Repub Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction that have gone unfilled to date.

[EihTooms]

Well, if he promised it, then its a broken promise, right? . And in reality, all it takes are a few significant ones to each voter and they will lose confidence. . I also don't think you should lend so much weight to criticism Trump for everything. I'ts not true and also it's not great optics.

I think you should not work so hard to "Bothside" consistent Dem economic recoveries, expansion and historic jobs creation with consistent Great Repub Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction. Doing that only serves to help Repubs produce more Great Recessions, destroy millions more USA jobs and makes it look like that is your goal.

[PVMonger]

Right! And you just can't see it, can you? You do it every time. You divert the discussion in to smthg you can attack. Whether X or why is partisan is irrelevant to the discussion.

Whether or not a source is partisan is the central premise of the discussion. For instance, I can guarantee that some source, somewhere, says that the earth is flat. But everybody in their right mind knows that the earth is not flat. So if I say that the earth is flat and cite that source as proof, my argument is invalid.