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  1. #55905
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Or is it that you were looking at it with rose tinted glasses before? For years people have been saying there are some of the same girls, but maybe you did not want to see it that way before. Now the glasses are off and you see it for what it is.

    Just like for years I have been saying how Sosua went downhill but other mongers were still swearing it was the best thing since sliced bread and that I was a hater. Now some of those are finally realizing it really has gone downhill. Maybe it just takes some people longer to notice these type of things than it does for others.
    Well I'm stating what I've actually witnessed and before the centro girls couldn't hack it in places like Gustos.

    This was a fact.

    Now they're crawling with them.

    6 years ago when I first started coming to mde I would find a dime on every trip.

    Yes the girls are charging stupid money.

    But that's not my gripe. My gripe is that the quality of girls looks wise has deteriorated so badly.

    It use to be Gustos and places like Envy were goldmines for finding non pros who occasionally needed to make some $$.

    I had many great experiences. And yes it was pricey. But these aren't fb or centro girls. They have jobs and standards.

    Those types of girls are long gone. Lleras is no diff than centro rn only with jacked up prices.

    If you're buying a Bentley I know it'll cost me a lot. But I don't expect to pay the same price at a Honda dealership as a Bentley.

    And that's what's happening.

    I know some of you guys think it's always been like this and I'm sure there always have been girls who tried.

    But I def have enough experience in medellin to tell you how it is now and how it was back then.

    And these loud crowds of want to be ballers are not just ruining the lleras scene I also saw first hand they're calling over fb girls and keeping them all night and prob overpaying.

    Fb girls and centro street girls imo is a set market that can fluctuate a little. I mean 20-30 k depending on certain things guys want.

    I always knew the independents would charge what they want and not back down.

    But hey it's just an observation.

    Doesn't effect me at the moment one way or another.

  2. #55904
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I've voiced some of the same / similar concerns about Centro for months now.

    Hopefully Asia will return to the good old days how it was before the Pandemic and the hordes of mongers will go back there.
    You really think you will be able to get the toothpaste back into the tube after that? You are not going to get a blindfold back on to someone after they have seen the light. Once these chicks change for the worse they do not go back. Name one mongering scene that was great, then turned to shit, then went back to being great again. It does not happen. Get used to the new normal.

  3. #55903
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Parque Lleras is the new Sosua and it is going downhill fast.

    I use to be the ones that would be firm that no centro girls would be in lleras and that the quality of women were much different in the clubs.

    Well it turns out the last couple years since the pandemic lleras has literally turned to shit.
    Or is it that you were looking at it with rose tinted glasses before? For years people have been saying there are some of the same girls, but maybe you did not want to see it that way before. Now the glasses are off and you see it for what it is.

    Just like for years I have been saying how Sosua went downhill but other mongers were still swearing it was the best thing since sliced bread and that I was a hater. Now some of those are finally realizing it really has gone downhill. Maybe it just takes some people longer to notice these type of things than it does for others.

  4. #55902

    This is the dream

    This rang so true to me.

    Quote:

    My "goal" has been sort of modeling after a lifestyle in the USA that I love but would not be willing to pay the price of living in Manhattan during the week, and a country home in Connecticut for the weekends. We will do it here substituting Medellin for NYC, at probably one-tenth the cost, but for me, same quality and enjoyability of life. No, not the same. Better here.

    I'm not very active on the board. And I apologize for that. The board has been super helpful for me. I've gone a handful of times and I love it. My Spanish is serviceable. I'm going to make the big move. I've sold my home here in the US. I had to take advantage of this crazy market. I'm walking away from the transaction will a decent profit.

    I've been trying to make my dream happen as well. I'm going to spend a couple of months in the Fall there, trying to get my stuff together. I work remotely, so that gives me some options. I picked out an area that I really liked. For me, I like Laureles. Anyhow, I hope to get my ID in order. Bank account. I have a recommended attorney, so needless to say, I'm excited.

    I have a side gig that is starting to come through. It won't make me millions, but it'll bring in a residual income for awhile. I can also expand the business in Medellin. I run that through Twitter mostly. I started a Colombian Hottie series.

    I'd love some advice from the folks that have already made the big move.

  5. #55901

    Amen!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Parque Lleras is the new Sosua and it is going downhill fast.

    I use to be the ones that would be firm that no centro girls would be in lleras and that the quality of women were much different in the clubs.

    Well it turns out the last couple years since the pandemic lleras has literally turned to shit.

    I went out last night and without the motivation of mongering since I haven't been mongering for a while. Just to go back and be in the middle of the action.

    But the quality of girls are trash.

    When I first went to Gustos on my first trip 6 years ago the booth was 500 mil. Now it's 1. 5 mil to reserve a booth on the weekend.

    With all the traffic from new mongers.

    The issue now is drugging and robberies have become so common in this area from what I'm reading and hearing..
    I say it all the time, we all need to be discreet, clean, respectful, and do what we can to preserve the game as a whole. Monger with class so foreigners don't just have a reputation as drug addicted sex fiends, but dudes just trying to live their best life.

  6. #55900
    Quote Originally Posted by DonValle  [View Original Post]
    I'm new to the city. Wandering around I randomly ended up in a strip club "Barra Ejecutiva". Around 8 or 9 pm on a weekday. Lots of girls (20+) just sitting around and not many guys. Loud music as usual so I can barely hear anything and can't use my not-great Spanish. Got a beer for 17 k, which is a rip off, but maybe that's standard there. The appearance of the women varied. Some where really good looking. I didn't see anyone going anywhere for lap dances like a strip club in the USA. Don't know if they even do that there, or if there are rooms somewhere for sex or what. Since I could hear shit, I didn't want to struggle to ask, and just left.
    The not so much a place for lap dances but the "rooms" for fucking are past the DJ booth. They're some pretty disgusting rooms -- when I took a chica back there for the first time, it was her first time back there too, and she was appalled as well. The bed was a mattress on a ledge, the "shower" had an open ceiling to the hallway, and the lighting horrendous. Conejitas a couple of doors down has much nicer rooms but is often dead. You could always pay more to go to an outside hotel of course.

    If you go and want to talk, you can pull out you phone for a translator app or ask her to use hers, "un traductor". The women in those bars will be happy to use one to part you with your money.

  7. #55899
    Quote Originally Posted by Shemp  [View Original Post]
    Fb talent can be had for about 5 times the price of a centro chick.

    Don't bring a centro chick to another part of town. They do cheap, 40 k or so quick sessions in cheap hourly hotels in centro. Don't try to take a fish out of water.
    Roger that, thanks for the reality check LOL.

  8. #55898
    This is excellent advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    In Colombia.

    Many times that will mean that she will then take her pants and panties off but not her shirt and bra. That is extra money. One cute tiny spinner did this to me in Centro. She started taking her pants off so I did not suspect anything. But then she stopped and no top off. She now works in Park Lleras because I saw her there.

    In Philippines.

    That means you are about to be set-up using mob of guy friends, family, or police. Girl went straight to my bathroom. Taking too long so I said get out before I break the door down. She got out and we left. Stepping outside the community gate were 5 police walking up to me to arrest me. Spent 10 hours at their cop shop. They let me go because they had nothing and the next shift was starting soon.

    Bottom line is this. If anything is odd and out of the ordinary, walk away. There are plenty of others. I have walked away from many good girls but who knows how many nightmares I walked away from. One drama queen can easily ruin your entire trip.

    Same thing with questioning if it is a woman or man. If you have to question what you are taking up to the room with you then walk away.

  9. #55897
    60 K for dos polvos seems like a fair deal. This is the perspective of a Centro rat so take what I say with a grain of salt. LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    The day before yesterday I was in Centro sitting by the Premier Plaza next to a Chica. A Colombian guy came up to the Chica asked a question, was given an answer, and then left. After he left, I asked the Chica what happened, and she said that he wanted to know how much for dos Polvo's and she said she told him 60,000 COP.

    She said it was 30,000 for each Polvo, and he thought he was going to get a discount from her but no dice!

  10. #55896
    You can bring Centro girls to your place in Laureles for a slight upcharge. 50 K plus transport will work more often than not. It's a good idea to check performance in a short time place in Centro to make sure it will be worth your while. You also have to make it clear they have to dress more modestly than they do in Centro. Their Centro get ups are designed to draw attention to them, which is exactly what you don't want at a hotel. All the normal precautions apply.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kbdb2488  [View Original Post]
    Well I am interested in the cost savings for daytime fun but I am staying in Lleras. Would prefer to bring back cheap talent back there. I will try the FB route as well. Can FB talent be had for the prices I am seeing reported out of Centro?

  11. #55895
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Parque Lleras is the new Sosua and it is going downhill fast.
    The game is changing. The same can be said about Cartagena in some ways also. A lot of trash is coming into Colombia to monger. Meanwhile, the quality chicas are increasingly able to make money on Only Fans and selling content to the thirst bucket through FB and other social media platforms. There will always be the old fat and / or young skinny boyish looking Centro girls around for the bottom feeders, but expect prices to increase like they have in other destinations for p4 p.

    Why I had to stop posting some content. The 30,000 lurkers and their weekend warrior buddies that they pass the info to. Fuk that.

    BTW, anyone know this dude's deal? I don't get dudes coming to Colombia to be bums. https://youtu.be/z_u8ZOYrhPI.

  12. #55894
    I'm useless in the kitchen. Anyway, back to the topic of how to say "orgasm" in Spanish, "echar un polvo" and "dos / tres / cuatro polvos" will get the point across in Latin America, the Caribbean, and in Spain.

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    The "common dictionary" meaning for polvo is dust or powder. I have many spices (in my spice cabinet in Mexico) that use the term "polvo" to indicate a powdered form of the spice. For example, "canela en polvo" or "ajo en polvo". What those same spices may say in Colombia is anybody's guess.

    But, like in every language everywhere in the world, local "slang usage" of a word is often quite different from the dictionary usage. And "Colombian slang" is different from "Peruvian slang" or "Mexican slang" or "Venezuelan slang". Hell, sometimes "slang" is different within the same country. For instance, where I live in Mexico, the term "manita de puerco" means "twist my arm" in English. But when I try to use that term in Mexico City or Guadalajara, I get blank looks.

  13. #55893
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Parque Lleras is the new Sosua and it is going downhill fast.

    I use to be the ones that would be firm that no centro girls would be in lleras and that the quality of women were much different in the clubs.

    Well it turns out the last couple years since the pandemic lleras has literally turned to shit.

    I went out last night and without the motivation of mongering since I haven't been mongering for a while. Just to go back and be in the middle of the action.

    But the quality of girls are trash.

    When I first went to Gustos on my first trip 6 years ago the booth was 500 mil. Now it's 1. 5 mil to reserve a booth on the weekend.

    With all the traffic from new mongers.

    The issue now is drugging and robberies have become so common in this area from what I'm reading and hearing.

    What ruins it for people is not the few guys who overpay.

    It's the groups that come and are so loud and want attention and try to be fake ballers for a weekend thinking they're offering these women something because they're from a better economy.

    They come pop bottles and throw money around and go home thinking the girls are in love with them. LOL.

    This is what has ruined lleras with ugly trashy girls. The diff between my first trip to now is like night and day. And to me it's just Sosua all over again. Only diff is I believe Medellin will recover.

    Being discreet is a part of this hobby. And these new guys just have none. From the airport with their loud mouth stories you can just tell it's a matter of time before something bad happens to them.
    I've voiced some of the same / similar concerns about Centro for months now.

    Hopefully Asia will return to the good old days how it was before the Pandemic and the hordes of mongers will go back there. And don't get me wrong, I can't wait to get back there as well, but I consider Medellin as my backyard and it's been totally trashed since Colombia opened up about eight months after the beginning of the Pandemic while other places were still closed, hence the onslaught of mongers, and so many new posters who don't RTFF with some of the strangest posts, like asking whether you reserve a Love Motel that costs $ 2-3 USD in advance. LOL.

  14. #55892

    Let's call it like it is

    Parque Lleras is the new Sosua and it is going downhill fast.

    I use to be the ones that would be firm that no centro girls would be in lleras and that the quality of women were much different in the clubs.

    Well it turns out the last couple years since the pandemic lleras has literally turned to shit.

    I went out last night and without the motivation of mongering since I haven't been mongering for a while. Just to go back and be in the middle of the action.

    But the quality of girls are trash.

    When I first went to Gustos on my first trip 6 years ago the booth was 500 mil. Now it's 1. 5 mil to reserve a booth on the weekend.

    With all the traffic from new mongers.

    The issue now is drugging and robberies have become so common in this area from what I'm reading and hearing.

    What ruins it for people is not the few guys who overpay.

    It's the groups that come and are so loud and want attention and try to be fake ballers for a weekend thinking they're offering these women something because they're from a better economy.

    They come pop bottles and throw money around and go home thinking the girls are in love with them. LOL.

    This is what has ruined lleras with ugly trashy girls. The diff between my first trip to now is like night and day. And to me it's just Sosua all over again. Only diff is I believe medellin will recover.

    Being discreet is a part of this hobby. And these new guys just have none. From the airport with their loud mouth stories you can just tell it's a matter of time before something bad happens to them.

  15. #55891
    Quote Originally Posted by DonValle  [View Original Post]
    I'm new to the city. Wandering around I randomly ended up in a strip club "Barra Ejecutiva". Around 8 or 9 pm on a weekday. Lots of girls (20+) just sitting around and not many guys. Loud music as usual so I can barely hear anything and can't use my not-great Spanish. Got a beer for 17 k, which is a rip off, but maybe that's standard there. The appearance of the women varied. Some where really good looking. I didn't see anyone going anywhere for lap dances like a strip club in the USA. Don't know if they even do that there, or if there are rooms somewhere for sex or what. Since I could hear shit, I didn't want to struggle to ask, and just left.
    Yeah they have rooms upstairs, girls will be 80 cop+.

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