American Politics

[ScatManDoo]

You didn't answer the question. You said you want Steve Bannon to be imprisoned for refusing to respond to a congressional subpoena. Do you want Eric Holder to be imprisoned for doing exactly the same thing?

That witch hunt matter was settled.

If the settlement called for imprisonment, then yes.

But we know it did not.

Contrast that with Bannon's not dealing with his subpoena.

Bannon simply ignored his subpoena.

Which was really dumb. TrumpShit dumb.

But Bannon in a leader in Trump's merry band of stupid losers.

He should join them in jail.

Soon he will.

[MarquisdeSade1]

So, instead of trying to refute the Texas study (which you can't), you harp on entry being illegal. But that's not what you idiots say all the freaking time. You harp on "illegals commit more crimes". Which, as the study proved, simply isn't the case.

And you found seven foreign national who falsely claimed citizenship in order to vote. Wow. Seven whole people? Get back to me when you have proof that the seven is really 700,000.

More or less than American citizens is moot.

A) they shouldn't be here period, so deport every damn last one of them, even the dead ones.

B) if you want to bother discussing their criminality, I will say this, it should be zero, ZERO.

If you illegally invade another country don't you think you shouldn't keep breaking the law if you want to stick around a bit? So don't try to childishly obfuscate the issue by trying to discuss who commits more.

They break the law when they enter, and then continue to, I say hire Charles Bronson as deporter in chief, deport them dead or alive.

[Chris P]

Of course you don't want to believe a study that shows that you have your head up your ass when it comes to the crimes that illegal immigrants commit. If it contradicts your bigoted worldview, it must be wrong. But that's the beauty of being able to portray everything that contradicts your bigoted worldview as "fake news".

To nobody's surprise your dim, brainwashed mind missed the point of the second paragraph. Even if they did commit less crime (which they don't) it is still more crime than they would commit if we had a big, beautiful wall to keep them out. Trump 2024. Though frankly we're most probably beyond politics at this point.

[PVMonger]

Oh really? You polled all of them? How the fuck do you know that?

The two major causes of hypoxemia are shunting and VQ mismatch. You know how you tell them apart shit for brains? Response to oxygen. VQ mismatches have dramatic responses to oxygen and shunts do not. Seeing as how you are all knowledgeable about what doctors think, shit for brains, you tell me which was the mechanism of hypoxemia with Covid, shunting or VQ mismatch?

You talked to all these doctors right? What did they say? Oh, you lied and made that up. You did not talk to all these experts. You did the common narcissist dumb dem thing and assumed that all the experts agreed with you.

And in your dumb Dem mind, the "experts" cannot be wrong with anything.

So when the first person I saw with Covid had an immediate and dramatic response to oxygen, I knew it was a VQ mismatch. And time after time, I kept seeing the same thing. Pneumonia causes shunts. Clots cause VQ mismatches. The point is that as long as they are keeping their CO2 levels somewhat normal and are not exhausted, the proper course is to ignore the oxygen levels and keep them off the ventilator.

And you know why shit for brains? Because when you put someone on a ventilator, you have to sedate them and often paralyze them so they do not move. And you know what happens to blood clots when there is no movement? Well, let us just say they do not get better.

In your caveman mind, ventilators give people oxygen, and there is no possible way oxygen levels can get worse, but that is exactly what happens with blood clots and immobility. They get worse.

So making the assumption that hypoxemia was due to a shunt and not a VQ mismatch, people were prematurely put on ventilators and many died needlessly.

The example I gave you was of someone who had a heroin overdose. You do not put that person on a ventilator but apply the antidote, and they will usually snap out of their hypoxemic ways.

The standard of care is not if someone has low oxygen, you put them on a ventilator. The standard of care is to identify the cause of hypoxemia and fix the underlying issue. The standard of care with Covid patients was NOT followed early on then.

Maybe you take solace with all the blowhard experts who shouted on MSNBC that ventilators were needed. You seem to think it is acceptable if people needlessly die as long as you have experts to back you up. Sorry, shit for brains, but any expert advocating for ventilators was dead wrong and anything but an expert, and the information was there to anyone who knew what they were doing.

The dumb Dem method is as long as you have a group of so called experts, you can be the biggest fuck up you want.

And the other thing is there is absolutely, positively no way the experts will ever get together and promote a common POV for their own self-interest. That never happens. Anyone saying that experts can be swayed is a conspiracy theorist nut job.

And are you certain that not one doctor screaming for ventilators did not own a ventilator company or somehow benefitted from people being on ventilators? I guess seeing as how you knew every doctor who treated a sick Covid patient, you did background on whether or not they had a financial conflict of interest right?

You don't have enough IQ points to decorate a domino.

Look on the internet to find any reputable medical professional who posted anything about thinking about treating COVID any differently in the early stages of the pandemic. There are none. I looked before I made the statement.

The experts changed their minds once they knew more. You still have failed to answer whether or not changing their minds was a good thing or a bad thing. So why not give me a simple answer, shit for brains. If someone changes their mind after knowing more, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I'll wait for you not to answer.

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[Elvis 2008]

And you found seven foreign national who falsely claimed citizenship in order to vote. Wow. Seven whole people? Get back to me when you have proof that the seven is really 700,000.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ll-washington/

In fact, Republicans came, at most, 43,000 votes from winning each of the three levers of power. And that will surely temper any move toward drastic corrective action vis-a-vis former president Donald Trump.

By saying, you need 700,000 votes minimum, you pretty much conceded that you cheated in 2020.

[PVMonger]

Haha! It was "peer reviewed" was it? So Marxist Professor Bergstein said Marxist Professor Steinberg got it right? Well that's put my mind at ease. Funny how they never extol the virtues of uncontrolled mass third world immigration to Israel. Why would they want them to miss out on all that strength through diversity (TM)?

Obviously it's bullshit like 98% of what non-STEM universities churn out. Regardless, it's like saying "the homeless bum who broke into my house made less of a mess than my family". I don't give a shit. My family are my family, and I'll deal with whatever mess they make. What I do not want is some uninvited bum in my house regardless of the amount of mess they make (which in reality is of course much more).

Of course you don't want to believe a study that shows that you have your head up your ass when it comes to the crimes that illegal immigrants commit. If it contradicts your bigoted worldview, it must be wrong. But that's the beauty of being able to portray everything that contradicts your bigoted worldview as "fake news".

[PVMonger]

https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo...illegally.html

For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.

Hey, dummy when an illegal immigrant breaks the law and comes into this country illegally and is arrested, that is not racism. It is called enforcing the law.

Everyone who crossed the border illegally is a criminal. You will have to explain to me how it is possible to have a higher rate than 100%.

So the criminals who broke the law and illegally entered the country just miraculously followed the law once they got here? Well, that would be great, but it is not true..

So, instead of trying to refute the Texas study (which you can't), you harp on entry being illegal. But that's not what you idiots say all the freaking time. You harp on "illegals commit more crimes". Which, as the study proved, simply isn't the case.

And you found seven foreign national who falsely claimed citizenship in order to vote. Wow. Seven whole people? Get back to me when you have proof that the seven is really 700,000.

[Axel Heyst]

Just out, Snoop Dogg's new premium cannabis brand called, "Sleepy Joe OG. " It's a brilliant commentary on Joe Blow's lack of lucidity. The caption reads.

"You won't even remember the country you're in!" KKK /555.

Say what you want about Snoop's music, I am not a fan, but everyone has to admit the guy is a genius at marketing. Man, I want to buy some of this shit for a souvenir and a toke (ha ha). A generation from now future Americans won't believe we had a mentally impaired President suffering from dementia in office while the people around the president in the White House publicly denied the obvious.

[Elvis 2008]

You seem to be following that standard RethugliKKKan mantra of "illegal immigrants are criminals". Nothing is further from the truth.

https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo...illegally.html

For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.

Hey, dummy when an illegal immigrant breaks the law and comes into this country illegally and is arrested, that is not racism. It is called enforcing the law.

So it should follow that Texas would have more "illegal immigrants" that almost every other state. It should also follow that if Texas did a crime rate study, it would show that "illegal immigrants" commit more crimes. And yet, it doesn't. In fact, what the above study shows is that US-born citizens commit crimes at a higher rate than "illegal immigrants". Oh, and by the way, the study was peer reviewed.

Everyone who crossed the border illegally is a criminal. You will have to explain to me how it is possible to have a higher rate than 100%.

As to the rest of your nonsense, the "Democrats want illegal immigrants to vote blue" ignores the fact that illegal immigrants can not vote in Federal elections. The remainder is simply "replacement theory" spun a little differently. All RethugliKKKan bullshit.

So the criminals who broke the law and illegally entered the country just miraculously followed the law once they got here? Well, that would be great, but it is not true.

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19...-investigation

A federal grand jury in Wilmington charged seven foreign nationals on August 31 on federal felony charges including falsely claiming USA Citizenship or making false statements on voter registration application, and with misdemeanor charges of unlawfully casting ballots in the 2016 presidential election. Non-citizens are not eligible to register to vote or to vote in federal elections under USA Law.

And, by the way, if a citizenship test had been required of Cheeto Tweeto prior to his running for President, he'd have failed.

Well, he could at least fill out the paper. Your guy Biden is so demented that he would need six handlers to fill in one space.

[Elvis 2008]

There was not a single doctor, during the early stages of the pandemic, that advocated for an approach other than ventilation. But it is very easy to look backwards with 20/20 hindsight and say, gee, we should've done this. But 20/20 hindsight is what you're about, isn't it?.

Oh really? You polled all of them? How the fuck do you know that?

The two major causes of hypoxemia are shunting and VQ mismatch. You know how you tell them apart shit for brains? Response to oxygen. VQ mismatches have dramatic responses to oxygen and shunts do not. Seeing as how you are all knowledgeable about what doctors think, shit for brains, you tell me which was the mechanism of hypoxemia with Covid, shunting or VQ mismatch?

You talked to all these doctors right? What did they say? Oh, you lied and made that up. You did not talk to all these experts. You did the common narcissist dumb dem thing and assumed that all the experts agreed with you.

And in your dumb Dem mind, the "experts" cannot be wrong with anything.

So when the first person I saw with Covid had an immediate and dramatic response to oxygen, I knew it was a VQ mismatch. And time after time, I kept seeing the same thing. Pneumonia causes shunts. Clots cause VQ mismatches. The point is that as long as they are keeping their CO2 levels somewhat normal and are not exhausted, the proper course is to ignore the oxygen levels and keep them off the ventilator.

And you know why shit for brains? Because when you put someone on a ventilator, you have to sedate them and often paralyze them so they do not move. And you know what happens to blood clots when there is no movement? Well, let us just say they do not get better.

In your caveman mind, ventilators give people oxygen, and there is no possible way oxygen levels can get worse, but that is exactly what happens with blood clots and immobility. They get worse.

So making the assumption that hypoxemia was due to a shunt and not a VQ mismatch, people were prematurely put on ventilators and many died needlessly.

The example I gave you was of someone who had a heroin overdose. You do not put that person on a ventilator but apply the antidote, and they will usually snap out of their hypoxemic ways.

The standard of care is not if someone has low oxygen, you put them on a ventilator. The standard of care is to identify the cause of hypoxemia and fix the underlying issue. The standard of care with Covid patients was NOT followed early on then.

Maybe you take solace with all the blowhard experts who shouted on MSNBC that ventilators were needed. You seem to think it is acceptable if people needlessly die as long as you have experts to back you up. Sorry, shit for brains, but any expert advocating for ventilators was dead wrong and anything but an expert, and the information was there to anyone who knew what they were doing.

The dumb Dem method is as long as you have a group of so called experts, you can be the biggest fuck up you want.

And the other thing is there is absolutely, positively no way the experts will ever get together and promote a common POV for their own self-interest. That never happens. Anyone saying that experts can be swayed is a conspiracy theorist nut job.

And are you certain that not one doctor screaming for ventilators did not own a ventilator company or somehow benefitted from people being on ventilators? I guess seeing as how you knew every doctor who treated a sick Covid patient, you did background on whether or not they had a financial conflict of interest right?

[Chris P]

Or that the businesses that hire these undocumented workers are mostly owned by (yep, you guessed it) REPUBLICANS.

For once, your witless flailings have accidentally stumbled onto a valuable point. The RINO / Chamber of Commerce / Cuckservative types who want illegals for their own nefarious and selfish means are indeed a huge problem, perhaps even bigger than the wacko left.

Fortunately, we are in the process of removing these vile parasites from the GOP. See the Liz Cheney primary next month for an update.

[Elvis 2008]

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Live it to Elvis to hide his mind-boggling ignorance behind the facade of big words.

You have showed me (and everyone else who hasn't been lazy to click on the links you provided) that you don't even understand what you're quoting.

Even if you're too lazy to read the abstract, the last two sentences tell you everything you need to know. Granted, the wording here could've been more eloquent, but if you pay attention it becomes clear that:

1. Short-term exercise does reduce the oxygen saturation. Which, by the way, is totally non-surprising.

2. But whether or not you work out on a regular basis does not make any difference in terms of oxygen saturation in short-term exercise.

LOL. [Deleted by Admin] A person starts on a treadmill and the oxygen saturation is 97%. It goes down to 95% and then goes up to 96% when that person starts breathing faster and he gets fatigued and stops. So what is the point I was making?

And your point is that I was wrong about everything because 95 is less than 97? So? What does that have to do in the context of anything? What is an abnormal oxygen saturation you fool?

Maybe you should put on a pulse oximeter and see what it says. Tell you what if it is 95%, make sure you go to a doctor and listen to PVM and ask to be put on a ventilator because according to your pea sized brain, that is not normal but low and your fellow dumb Dem PVMonger thinks you always treat low oxygen with a ventilator.

Or maybe ask for an oxygen mask delivering 100% oxygen. That will put your number up from 95 to 100, and that is better right? 100% is higher than 95% and more oxygen is always good right?

[Chris P]

In fact, what the above study shows is that US-born citizens commit crimes at a higher rate than "illegal immigrants". Oh, and by the way, the study was peer reviewed.

Haha! It was "peer reviewed" was it? So Marxist Professor Bergstein said Marxist Professor Steinberg got it right? Well that's put my mind at ease. Funny how they never extol the virtues of uncontrolled mass third world immigration to Israel. Why would they want them to miss out on all that strength through diversity (TM)?

Obviously it's bullshit like 98% of what non-STEM universities churn out. Regardless, it's like saying "the homeless bum who broke into my house made less of a mess than my family". I don't give a shit. My family are my family, and I'll deal with whatever mess they make. What I do not want is some uninvited bum in my house regardless of the amount of mess they make (which in reality is of course much more).

[Chris P]

From the tone of this post, you are clueless about third world countries and their populations. You are clueless about the attitude of the citizenry. Mexico, for example, has a "minimum daily wage" floor of about $120 pesos per day. That's about $6 US dollars per day for a 10 hour day. "Minimum daily wage" is, of course, for extremely low skill jobs, like ditch diggers. But even folks with a higher skill level rarely make more than $300 pesos per day which is about $15 USD.

Now, do these folks making $15 USD per day have jobs? Sure, Do they have an adequate standard of living? That depends upon how one defines adequate, doesn't it? If by adequate, do you mean do they have a roof over their head? If so, then the answer is yes. But if by adequate do you mean do they have hot water in their dwelling? If not, then the answer is no.

Are some in third world countries wealthier than the poor in the US? Sure, but not by much. Many physicians in Mexico earn about $35,000 USD per year. Poverty level in the US for a family of 4 is about $26,000 per year.

And yet they all keep living, getting up every day, getting married and having kids (more than in the US!) The vast majority have food, shelter, family, and are doing just fine. In fact they're much happier than the average neurotic childless American leftist SSRI-guzzling urban cubicle wageslave bugman / catlady paying 75% of their salary after tax to rent a tiny apartment in some crime-, junkie- and poop-riddled democrat city where the cops have been defunded.

[Chris P]

Take your claims to 60 courts....

You didn't answer the question. You said you want Steve Bannon to be imprisoned for refusing to respond to a congressional subpoena. Do you want Eric Holder to be imprisoned for doing exactly the same thing?