Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

Wow. So quiet in here. Surely someone is fucking some hottie somewhere? Do tell.

Personally still coming down off the high of mini vacations with Shayla and Sylvia, respectively. Saw Shayla again on my regular schedule and so great to see her after 3 weeks apart. She got out of her car and literally ran to me and showered me in kisses. You cannot buy that shit! Epic edge of bed (me standing. Her on her tummy) with doe eyes tilted up to me. Slow and sensual and deep with plenty of BLS. She knows how I like it. What a girl!

I am also reminded about how LAME SA is in some cities. Looking at a second tier city where I already have a hottie, I thought hey let me just see what's out there. Fat ugly girls. Pages of them. OMG I can't unsee that who in gods name would pay for sex with these fuglies. I hate to be judgmental. I really do. But damn that was fucking depressing. Counting my good fortune!

[AsianPursuits]

Back in MOntreal next week and from there to Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, SFO. Have dates set up in all locations.

What is the general vibe for seeking & SBs in Canada particularly Vancouver?

[NeilGeorge]

I am paying lifetime alimony at $285K USD a year to my ex-wife.

The screwing you get for what little screwing you got!

[Elvis 2008]

I'm curious why the costs are so high. 600 pounds? That's $720 us dollars LOL. I would never pay that much.

If a man is in their 30's, decent looking, and with some level of game, I would think they could bag one of these British hoes for no more than 200 pounds.

Ideally I want to pay as little as possible.

The game with seeking is finding the best possible women. What are the criteria a woman must meet for you to be only with her? Set your criteria as high as you want: a 10 in looks, 10 in bed, great chef, never depressed. Go on and on. The hunt and often the fun part is looking for and finding the best.

Thing is if you ever find a woman that meets those crazy high criteria, you are not going to give a shit how much she costs and if she cares about you, she will care much more about spending time with you than spending your money.

If you are just focused on getting laid on the cheap, stick with the WGs.

[FastMdSter]

I have taken it a step further. First, I ask for pictures and then I take the conversation to WhatsApp. After we have a brief conversation on WhatsApp, I discuss what I am willing to pay for a meeting. I have a generic message, I just change what I am willing to pay depending on there looks. After we agree on a price, I say let's have a Video Chat and then we can set up a meeting. This has eliminated most of the scams and b. S.

Remember I am strictly dealing with girls in CDMX. If they like you or truly interested in meeting, none of this will be an issue. I was wasting a lot of time, the Video Chat, makes a huge difference. They can still hide a flaw, but much harder after a video chat.

Another thing, trust your gut, if you have doubts verify.

So my method is almost the same.

I switch to text or WhatsApp after I have any interest. The ones that are serious will do that no problem. After a few texts I ask for a video call for both our safety. If it's a no, then no further.

When it gets to arrangement. I mention ppm and my donation. For those that don't bring it up I wait till after dinner / drinks when I ask to go up to the room, depending on the mood.

Back in MOntreal next week and from there to Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, SFO. Have dates set up in all locations.

Will see how it goes. I know Montreal and Vancouver will be slam dunks because have had a few video chats and they have been already trying on outfits and lingerie during the video for our dates.

[DramaFree11]

Agreed. Red flag for me too. Last month was proposing a girl and she accepted my arrangement without asking for my photos. Huge red flag. I politely told her I canceled my trip. It just smelled bad.

I have taken it a step further. First, I ask for pictures and then I take the conversation to WhatsApp. After we have a brief conversation on WhatsApp, I discuss what I am willing to pay for a meeting. I have a generic message, I just change what I am willing to pay depending on there looks. After we agree on a price, I say let's have a Video Chat and then we can set up a meeting. This has eliminated most of the scams and b. S.

Remember I am strictly dealing with girls in CDMX. If they like you or truly interested in meeting, none of this will be an issue. I was wasting a lot of time, the Video Chat, makes a huge difference. They can still hide a flaw, but much harder after a video chat.

Another thing, trust your gut, if you have doubts verify.

[AmericanPi]

No photo- pro. Block her. Even the semi-pros ask for pics.

Agreed. Red flag for me too. Last month was proposing a girl and she accepted my arrangement without asking for my photos. Huge red flag. I politely told her I canceled my trip. It just smelled bad.

[FastMdSter]

I've been talking to this girl in London, tried to meet last weekend but it fell through. Made plans to meet today but she's been checking to see if we're meeting since around 9 am, about 3 times so far. The last time I met a new girl on seeking and went straight to a hotel I got robbed and she was very eager to meet too. Called and texted multiple times to make sure I was coming. Probably going to trust my gut and bail but wondering if anyone else has experienced this. Also hasn't asked for my photo so might be a pro.

No photo- pro. Block her. Even the semi-pros ask for pics.

[GoingDumb]

I've been talking to this girl in London, tried to meet last weekend but it fell through. Made plans to meet today but she's been checking to see if we're meeting since around 9 am, about 3 times so far. The last time I met a new girl on seeking and went straight to a hotel I got robbed and she was very eager to meet too. Called and texted multiple times to make sure I was coming. Probably going to trust my gut and bail but wondering if anyone else has experienced this. Also hasn't asked for my photo so might be a pro.

[FastMdSter]

I'm curious why the costs are so high. 600 pounds? That's $720 us dollars LOL. I would never pay that much.

If a man is in their 30's, decent looking, and with some level of game, I would think they could bag one of these british hoes for no more than 200 pounds.

Ideally I want to pay as little as possible.

600 is nothing in certain areas. It's insignificant to me for what I'm looking for.

I don't want long term. I want 1 night, few weeks, maybe a few months with the right one.

I am paying lifetime alimony at $285K USD a year to my ex-wife.

I'm about quality. Columbia is the place for cheap pussy.

The performance of escorts are going down hill in London, imo.

I think maybe the wrong question is asked. The right question ought to be what is 600 pounds worth to me? Is it worth an hour of my time or maybe more or maybe not at all?

I think it is all a matter of perspective. Instead of asking how much is the girl worth, maybe a better question to ask is how much is my time worth? The typical profile of SD in SA are going to be different than the rest and will more likely to skew higher income and higher net worth.

Also, I guess if one has game, he does not even need to pay.

I agree.

Also, it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Easy to go out try for one night stands, but still paying the bar tab and a little tedious if you're alone in a foreign city.

[FilthyBeaver]

This is a compound equation. Is she worth x? The answer is almost always absolutely not, if you just want sex with a pretty girl, go to an AMP or *****house; they're cheaper and there are a lot fewer flakes.

Given what I want (and more importantly, what's available at that given time) is dropping 700 to get something I want worth it to me? Only the buyer can answer that (for the record my answer has been yes twice in the last year but less than that with 4 or 5 other girls).

I honestly believe I've found the secret sauce on that site. I get a lot of positive feedback from my profile but I am also extremely picky. For every 20 girls who contact me unsolicited, I may be open to 1 of them. For every 10 girls I'm interested in (I've not run into 20 I was interested in on a one month subscription and I never go more than a month), I will get at least half that reply to me. From there, if there's chemistry in the texting we meet, if not I walk away. I won't try to bag them if they're just attractive, I want the chemistry and the mental connection too. I like the mentoring and helping them out. It costs me money and time but the amounts have no discernable effect on the rest of my life so I don't worry about it. I don't see how it makes any sense for a man twice, or more, her age to try to get her for as cheap as possible or free. In a situation like this there has to be something tangible that gets exchanged. There are some girls looking for real relationships and I've met a doctor before so the person is also going to dictate the price (Dr didn't want anything and I saw her twice). I've also heard of plenty of wealthy girls looking for their equals so they don't have to "date down" and SA seems like a reasonable place to do that so long as you have the patience to sift through the wannabes and fakers. I've met enough girls to know that there are a significant number of legitimately successful men there.

The numbers mean nothing, it's just a way to keep score in a game you're playing by yourself. What sense does that make?

I think maybe the wrong question is asked. The right question ought to be what is 600 pounds worth to me? Is it worth an hour of my time or maybe more or maybe not at all?

I think it is all a matter of perspective. Instead of asking how much is the girl worth, maybe a better question to ask is how much is my time worth? The typical profile of SD in SA are going to be different than the rest and will more likely to skew higher income and higher net worth.

Also, I guess if one has game, he does not even need to pay.

[Ggekko2009]

I'm curious why the costs are so high. 600 pounds? That's $720 us dollars LOL. I would never pay that much.

If a man is in their 30's, decent looking, and with some level of game, I would think they could bag one of these british hoes for no more than 200 pounds.

Ideally I want to pay as little as possible.

I think maybe the wrong question is asked. The right question ought to be what is 600 pounds worth to me? Is it worth an hour of my time or maybe more or maybe not at all?

I think it is all a matter of perspective. Instead of asking how much is the girl worth, maybe a better question to ask is how much is my time worth? The typical profile of SD in SA are going to be different than the rest and will more likely to skew higher income and higher net worth.

Also, I guess if one has game, he does not even need to pay.

[TerOnlyOnce]

Hey man, London was my trip right before Montreal and I thought I wrote an update, but just checked and I didn't.

London was hard for me also, expensive, and never got my full PSE experiences that I search for with SA.

I also had to resort to gorilla warfare which I hate to do.

Additionally, I think the base rate for London is not 3-400 gbp for 8+ white woman. I was paying 500-600 for the night plus the drinking / food.

I was there 6 days and only managed 3 woman / 4.

Encounters, but I had a busy work schedule in the evenings. A lot of pros in London, but I have a feeling prices are coming down.

I had one who was 25, blond / blue eyes, solid 8, fit as fuck. She was half Croatian or something, works at boutique on Bond st.

GFE+ BBBJ, CIM, BBFS, no cip, couldn't deep throat, couldn't take anal. It was a great night, and it seem she was way more happy than me. 600 gbp.

Another one was 33 yo brunette / brown eyes 7. 5-8 in real life, pics were a 9. From Moldova, has been living in London for 10 yrs. Said she was a lawyer, but can't work as a lawyer or something, they don't recognize her experience so basically some kind of assistant. She is looking for a rich husband bad. But, not hot or young enough to pull down the ballers she wants, imo.

She was GFE only, good fuck, no anal, no deep throat etc. Her body was solid, slim, fake tits, but here feet through me off. Kind of wide, but not big. 600 gbp.

Last one, 22 yo waitress from Spain, the hottest one. Solid 8. 5, tall, slim, real tits, tats. Just a hot girl. She was GFE++ BBFS, CIM, cip no anal, no deep throat. 500 gbp.

What I mean by gorilla warfare: I did not negotiate. I had to change my message to this basically:" I'm in town from NYC visiting my London office which I do 2 x a month. Staying at the Four Seasons in Mayfair. I want a beautiful woman who can hold a conversation, use a fork and join me for dinner at Gordon Ramsay's Lucky Cat. You must be able to wear high heels and walk in them. Not a plutonic experience. If we click I will bring you to a private after hour club, and we finish with you taking off your heels in my company. ".

Now I switched dinner restaurants to "Coya" and "Madhus of Mayfair" for the woman. These are lively places, centrally located, so I could leave or she could leave.

You probably don't have access to the private after hour clubs, everything closes at 11 pm basically in London. So you have less time to work your game.

I discussed ppm day of meeting with all.

The Moldovan came back for me another night for free, but it cost me dinner to fuck her.

Hope that helps.

It was a lot of work. Next time I may stick with Diva. But, it's hard for me to get that real uninhibited PSE sex that I desire from a pro lately. There are a few, but it costs way more.

Good luck, don't be hard. And don't believe London is easy. There are still a lot of Arabs there throwing money around.

I'm curious why the costs are so high. 600 pounds? That's $720 us dollars LOL. I would never pay that much.

If a man is in their 30's, decent looking, and with some level of game, I would think they could bag one of these british hoes for no more than 200 pounds.

Ideally I want to pay as little as possible.

[Steve 9696]

Just sitting here chatting with Sylvia about our time together. And was reminded of a great moment. Life is just a series of moments. And they are MADE. Make as many as you can.

We'the had an epic day on the water and decided to stay in for the night. Went for a bottle of wine and were drinking it on the balcony four stories above a very busy pedestrian area. We did comment before going out there that you can't see it from the street.

We had a glass or two just chatting. But after a while my proper lawyer girl comes and sits on my lap. We continue to chat and kiss a bit. But the próximity has us worked up. After a while I am squeezing her tits and eventually push up her bikini top for full access. She's quite the posh and proper girl and you could feel a boundary being stretched.

A few more minutes of tits and kissing and I start to pull the release string. She says "you're not taking my top off." and I say "yes I am" and proceed to do so. You can tell she loves that I've pushed her past that boundary. A good SD is more than just a guy that fucks you. You grow a bit together. We take it inside shortly thereafter and have some truly great drunk sex but damn that moment will stay with both of us forever.

[Steve 9696]

First things first. Epic post by Chola. Soooo glad you scored that grand slam. I agree with the other poster who said mega ballsy to travel to someone you don't know. So 90 Days! And yet it worked. Glass half full is a style that results in a few fails but some epic success. Congrats. And glad you tried the Steve 2. It's life changing. Nothing like it if you like BJ and fingering. Plus tits. Awesome.

So I guess I've been a bit over sexed but it's given me perspective. In the past few weeks I've had trips with Sylvia and Shayla, had a one night SA lay, and had two girls at the FKK. So two real GFs and three rather transactional meets. (The SA girl struck me as rather pro but not so good at it. LOL.).

And here's where I stand. Transactional sex is great. If you don't have the option of more meaningful date-night sex. Single night date-night sex is awesome. If you don't have the option of a multi-day vacation with a Hot GF. Hot GF weekends are fabulous. Unless you have the option of hot GF weekend with a girl you are smitten with and is a sex goddess. That's where I stand.

So sure. I loved the transactional sex. And I adored my days with Sylvia. Would repeat in a heartbeat. But I am not drawn to her the same as Shayla. And when the pussy sex and the BJ solid but not exceptional there is no comparison with Shayla, who absolutely slays in bed. (It took us a while to find out passion/rhythm actually the first few dates were OK. Its interesting to see how much better its become. )

I once wrote down a top five list. Top BJ. Top kissing. Top sex. Top whatever. And Shayla slays the sex categories. She's a top five in kissing, BJ, sex, passion and who knows what else. Oh. Smile. And just making you feel like a million bucks. When she runs up to you, throws her legs around you and smothers you in a million kisses. What a keeper. Just going to enjoy her as long as I can.

I have a friend who plays the game. And he once gave me the advice that when ur current girl winds down theres always a better one. u just have to keep going. And I wasnt sure I believed him. But he was right. I didn't think Thifany could be exceeded. Alexa finally dethroned her (and remains still a top 2 girl). But Shayla has topped even Alexa and slayed my dragon and I am her man as long as she'll have me. But u know what? Theres a better girl still ahead. Doesnt seem possible. But hey thats what I thought with Thif. Then Alexa. Shes out there somewhere