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[Mr Ho]

Not so. US vs Japan was the biggest naval war in history. Germany vs Russia was the biggest land and air war in history and also the total biggest in history.

I agree about the naval war and as for size I half agree because Japan was fighting way too many more nations than German were fighting, but yes, German on land fought well in Europe, they took over Europe quite easily until USA came in! Same story with Japan taking over whole Asia quite easily until USA came in, but we did kick out US out of Philippines once, but when USA came back with full force, then that is when things became rampage!

Conclusion; USA is required force in the world and war between big nations are not good idea because it lead to chaotic rampage for surrounding nations!

I also add that Russia back then had strong military, but now it is so low tech and low quality military with no organization or strategy or order what so ever LOL! All Russia have now is nuclear weapons that they often shamefully use as threats, I mean where is the sense in their head in 21st century! Oh and many soldiers that they use as some kind of toys to waste! It is crazy how communism ideology can bring down so many nations!

However, the failure of Russia lead to failure of all eastern european nations that lead to good line up in FKK like all romanians, moldovians, hungarians stunners that we fucked so all is good LOL!

[Escape Artist]

Hey all. Hate to interrupt the greatest military debate in history, but anyone want to fuck? I mean not each other. But you know. Girls.

Seriously. Could use guidance on options northeast of thesseldorf. Say Essen and Dortmund area. Open to FKKS. Mini brothels. Whatever this esteemed crowd seems worthy. I'm a fan of the Latina style Romanian Vs Nordic if that matters.

P.S. Been doing Seeking almost exclusively during pandemic, including multi day and fly to me visits with "girlfriends". If anyone needs any Seeking tips drop me a line. It's paradise once you slog thru purgatory.

Essen is centrally located between Penelope to the Northeast, Prime to the Southeast and Villa Venus to the northwest. If you're in Dortmund then Penelope is 20 west and is the only game in / near town unless you want to visit some seedier places like Luder Lounge with a line up of like less than 6 girls.

Just keep in mind that area is super blue collar so don't expect anything like Frankfurt level atmosphere, amenities, or line up quality. If 50 girls are in a club, only about five or six I would rate a 7 or above, and maybe only one or two would be an 8. Stunners are rare in all of NRW.

Of the 3 clubs mentioned, I actually like Villa Venus the most despite it having only a line up of 8-12. Facilities are nice, service is reliably excellent, and if 12 girls are present, I usually find about three of them to be 7. 5 to 8. 5. Bad part is being pretty small, it can easily turn into a sausage fest and you may find yourself waiting very long for the superstar girls. And food system is like Oceans. You get a 10 euro credit towards a la carte menu food, beer is not part of that credit. Light breakfast provided, but only 2-3 girls ever work during breakfast / lunch hours.

[Steve 9696]

Hey all. Hate to interrupt the greatest military debate in history, but anyone want to fuck? I mean not each other. But you know. Girls.

Seriously. Could use guidance on options northeast of theüsseldorf. Say Essen and Dortmund area. Open to FKKS. Mini brothels. Whatever this esteemed crowd seems worthy. I'm a fan of the Latina style Romanian Vs Nordic if that matters.

P.S. Been doing Seeking almost exclusively during pandemic, including multi day and fly to me visits with "girlfriends". If anyone needs any Seeking tips drop me a line. It's paradise once you slog thru purgatory.

[Turgid]

.... but US-Japan relation is miracle that born in biggest tragedy of history as that was the biggest modern war by far in history!....

Not so. US vs Japan was the biggest naval war in history. Germany vs Russia was the biggest land and air war in history and also the total biggest in history.

[Mr Ho]

I know and understand all of that. My point is that none of that compares to the rampage that occurred from around 1895 forward through 1945 and the end of WW2.

When Japan choose to fight against USA, that is when things got real rampage because till then West had no significant enemy that can fight in same level as them, but Japan basically beat all Asian nations, France, Holland and UK in Asia too, then when USA came in then Japan decided to attack pearl harbor to take on USA, after that is when things got real rampage and real ugly all over Asia! It was real Godzilla against King kong and only time in history two modern nations are fighting with most advance weapons in the whole world and only time two sides were using top level air craft carriers in full scale in war to this day that is! Which lead to respect between nations and as result millions of people died, but US and Japan became best friend after that, so if the end is good, all is good as the saying goes here, but US-Japan relation is miracle that born in biggest tragedy of history as that was the biggest modern war by far in history!

After that war and only that war, all other war is like one side have top weapon like aircraft carrier with F22 A,be, other top end bombers and other side is just fighting with AK47 and sword and stick and stones kind of situations LOL!

[Mr Ho]

Perhaps Japanese military capabilities basically serve as a Western outpost to keep Russian and Chinese interests strategically in check.

We are very important shield for US military strategy, look at the map, it literally shaped shield and also the location too! But look, one great thing about Japan is that we have tremendous ability to learn to evolve to make things better to perfection, so we learnt from second world war that:

1): Our technology and its quality is top notch.

2): We have capability to be top military nation and can invade whole Asia if we wish to. But now we do not at all!

3): We can beat all nations as we historically have, but not USA.

4): USA is someone we can resonate and co-operate with as not just a ally, but as a good friend.

5): Above all and most importantly, war do not solve anything, but cause more hate that could last for decades! So no war!

6): We can dominate world with economy not military! Not in negative way, but have our presence is what I mean that can be in harmony!

So if Japan were to change constitution and militarize again, so we can offense not just defense by constitution, we have zero interest attack others, I mean for what? We have so much to lose! We are top G7 nation with responsibilities to act right and correct, so why lose such position that took us like 50 years to built till we became top nation since around year 1980 !

Strategically, we will be good friend to west and USA, but we will try our best to participate in their "liberation" operation in middle east or Iran etc as we have no problem talking to them and get the deals done! But we also understand why West are doing military actions in those nations, so we help, but we won't kill there, we give ground support for infrastructures with top technology with quality that we are best at! But no killing!

[Escape Artist]

so Japan just need enough to protect itself even though Japan is ranked always in top 5 most of time or top10 even just with defense restriction by its own constitution LOL!

https://www.businessinsider.in/defen...t/51930339.cms#slideid=51930374.

Perhaps Japanese military capabilities basically serve as a Western outpost to keep Russian and Chinese interests strategically in check.

[Escape Artist]

No clue what you're talking about as I don't think that I have downplayed or "belittled" anything. I said from 1895 forward. That includes the 20th century, which you have emphasized. Anyway, I drop this now so that we may return to discussions of banging beaver.

Sorry, I like history. Topic dropped.

[BobNSuzy]

No clue what you're talking about as I don't think that I have downplayed or "belittled" anything. I said from 1895 forward. That includes the 20th century, which you have emphasized. Anyway, I drop this now so that we may return to discussions of banging beaver.

This isn't usually my topic of interest but isn't this like saying the home of the Samaria or China has no history of warefare. In 1895 their were no airplanes.

[The Cane]

Let's not belittle the Japanese atrocities. While you are right that their militarism was brief, the magnitude of Japanese crimes in the first half of the 20th century was rivaled only by Nazi crimes. Western historians skip over how much imperial Japan abused their neighbors in the Far East and the Pacific, but their methods were down right evil. Just read up on events such as the R8 pe of Nanking and you will get a sense of the depth of evil that Japanese imperialism inflicted on the Asian mainland and Pacific islands. Their actions resulted in as many as 14 million deaths. Their treatment of western POWs was far worse than the Nazis. Their crimes against women during military conflict is unspeakable. The fact that Japan enjoys such affluence and "western nation" status despite how much harm they inflicted on their neighbors is a major reason why so many people from other Far East nations have a deep resentment for the nation of Japan. While I agree that Japan is now a peaceful nation, the culture of Japan still retains a sense of superiority over other nations, both Western and Eastern.

No clue what you're talking about as I don't think that I have downplayed or "belittled" anything. I said from 1895 forward. That includes the 20th century, which you have emphasized. Anyway, I drop this now so that we may return to discussions of banging beaver.

[The Cane]

One correction though! Japan had history of attacking other nation before second world war! I can admit our wrong doing, so here we go, Japan attacked Russia which caused Japan Russia war which we beat Russians both on land and sea especially sea battle was one of the most significant battle in history as Japan fought against back then biggest navy fleet in the whole world Baltic coalition, but Japan finish all of them under one hour and also Japan attack China as well! But we are talking over 100 years ago event LOL!

I know and understand all of that. My point is that none of that compares to the rampage that occurred from around 1895 forward through 1945 and the end of WW2.

[The Cane]

The USA should just mind its own business and let Japan and China hash it out between themselves.

That's asking a lot! Now isn't it?

[Mr Ho]

Let's not belittle the Japanese atrocities. While you are right that their militarism was brief, the magnitude of Japanese crimes in the first half of the 20th century was rivaled only by Nazi crimes. Western historians skip over how much imperial Japan abused their neighbors in the Far East and the Pacific, but their methods were down right evil. Just read up on events such as the R8 pe of Nanking and you will get a sense of the depth of evil that Japanese imperialism inflicted on the Asian mainland and Pacific islands. Their actions resulted in as many as 14 million deaths. Their treatment of western POWs was far worse than the Nazis. Their crimes against women during military conflict is unspeakable. The fact that Japan enjoys such affluence and "western nation" status despite how much harm they inflicted on their neighbors is a major reason why so many people from other Far East nations have a deep resentment for the nation of Japan. While I agree that Japan is now a peaceful nation, the culture of Japan still retains a sense of superiority over other nations, both Western and Eastern.

It is most extreme nation as after 1945 Japan became the most peaceful nation for past 77 years LOL! But kept the ability to become the military power if Japan want, but for what? Using military in 21st century only lead to chaos, so Japan just need enough to protect itself even though Japan is ranked always in top 5 most of time or top10 even just with defense restriction by its own constitution LOL!

https://www.businessinsider.in/defen...t/51930339.cms#slideid=51930374.

[Escape Artist]

Japan had no significant history of military adventurism abroad prior to about 1895. Before that time, the Japanese basically were isolationists who wanted to be left alone by outsiders. What happened? Western colonial powers and their imperialist abuses showed up and changed Japan's outlook forever. Conquer and subdue, or be conquered and subdued! Well with a recovery from two nuclear blasts to later become the world's second largest economy (now number three behind China), Japan understands better than anybody (except Germany maybe) that peace is better than war. And Mr. Abe understood that a crucial way to maintain that peace is through strength! Weakness only prompts another war and gets you. Conquered and subdued.

Let's not belittle the Japanese atrocities. While you are right that their militarism was brief, the magnitude of Japanese crimes in the first half of the 20th century was rivaled only by Nazi crimes. Western historians skip over how much imperial Japan abused their neighbors in the Far East and the Pacific, but their methods were down right evil. Just read up on events such as the R8 pe of Nanking and you will get a sense of the depth of evil that Japanese imperialism inflicted on the Asian mainland and Pacific islands. Their actions resulted in as many as 14 million deaths. Their treatment of western POWs was far worse than the Nazis. Their crimes against women during military conflict is unspeakable. The fact that Japan enjoys such affluence and "western nation" status despite how much harm they inflicted on their neighbors is a major reason why so many people from other Far East nations have a deep resentment for the nation of Japan. While I agree that Japan is now a peaceful nation, the culture of Japan still retains a sense of superiority over other nations, both Western and Eastern.

[Mr Ho]

Japan had no significant history of military adventurism abroad prior to about 1895. Before that time, the Japanese basically were isolationists who wanted to be left alone by outsiders. What happened? Western colonial powers and their imperialist abuses showed up and changed Japan's outlook forever. Conquer and subdue, or be conquered and subdued! Well with a recovery from two nuclear blasts to later become the world's second largest economy (now number three behind China), Japan understands better than anybody (except Germany maybe) that peace is better than war. And Mr. Abe understood that a crucial way to maintain that peace is through strength! Weakness only prompts another war and gets you. Conquered and subdued.

It is very precise observation as Japan tend to have strong culture of prefer to be left alone by foreigners and if we want to implement something we ask for it ourselves instead of someone forcing Japan to do so, and yes the reason for second world war was that western power begin to show up in Asia and Japan having 11 aircraft carrier back then were threaten that they were about to do something to us and our stand always and will be is that we will not kneel down to west or any invaders, so we tried to solve through foreign diplomacy, but there was no chance, then west blocked the oil, so we had two choice, we will wage losing war on whole world now or we kneel down to the west, and we choose the first choice as we are not going to kneel down! But I am happy that both side of our ancestors did not die for nothing as Japan and West are very good friend and US and Japan are basically best friend nation like batman and robin and US being batman LOL!

One correction though! Japan had history of attacking other nation before second world war! I can admit our wrong doing, so here we go, Japan attacked Russia which caused Japan Russia war which we beat Russians both on land and sea especially sea battle was one of the most significant battle in history as Japan fought against back then biggest navy fleet in the whole world Baltic coalition, but Japan finish all of them under one hour and also Japan attack China as well! But we are talking over 100 years ago event LOL! And what is fantastic about Japan is that we have power to change to evolve into future and thanks to USA and especially US military (General Macarthur! That Japan is where Japan is at now and US-Japan relation will be forever bond! Losing Shinzo Abe was too big of a loss though! He was only leader who can talk to both side of extreme to find soft landing point (Eg: Iran and US when US was Trump LOL!