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[LookForFun]

Most of Hessen girls are not pretty enough for new 2022 rates. Prettier looks at Gold from Thursday to Sunday after 3 pm

Is Aca Gold considered superior (girl and facility) to Sauna club Prime (Aca Velbert)?

[LookForFun]

Which club is right for you depends on your preferences.

Thanks everyone for your responses so far. I can certainly afford the higher price, but it seems like that added cost in Frankfurt isn't getting me anything. I'm flying in and out of FRA, but I'm staying in Cologne. Yes, I could spend my day in a Frankfurt FKK if it's worth it.

To answer your other questions.

Price not that important. I'm also willing to travel up to 1.5 hours using a mix of public transportation and taxi.

I plan to arrive in the afternoon and spend 3-4 hours. If it's good, I hopefully will be allowed to return in the evening after sampling local cuisine at a nice restaurant. I can only go one day, but I can choose that day to be Wednesday (my preference), Fri, or Sunday.

I'm going solo. Party atmosphere is preferred if possible, but not sure that's feasible when entering alone unless the girls help welcome me into the party. Otherwise, relaxing / laid back is just fine. I can enjoy either, but I assume relaxing might be the safer option since a good party depends on the people I won't have any control over.

I'm staying in the heart of Cologne.

A few extra (just a few) is fine especially if the girl has a pretty face and excellent service and can form that connection. But, I generally prefer petite.

Certainly prefer more girls than fewer, but I just want a handful of good options at the end of the day.

GFE with kissing preferred. Don't need BBBJ. Do not want bareback service (don't want AO).

Don't care about food. For relaxing, would prefer a pool (or at least a hot tub / steam room). Party atmosphere I think could happen anywhere, not just a nightclub type place.

Cleanliness is next to godliness. Yes, a clean facility would be welcome.

I can handle pushy girls. I can approach quiet ones too.

I might choose longer 1 hour service if I find someone I like and connect with or I find it is necessary for GFE.

[TraLaLax]

I don't really want to pay the Hessen rates (100/30). If I can go to only one FKK in NRW area where should it be? Samya, Aca Gold, Babylon?

Last visit to FKK was pre-covid to Artemis. Looking to find that experience again in NRW, but I worry it doesn't exist at the 50 euro for 30 min rate in NRW. ...

Which club is right for you depends on your preferences.

- I assume from your post that price is somewhat important to you?

- Would you like to visit the club during day, evening or both?

- Would you like to go somewhere relaxing or somewhere with a party atmosphere?

- Are you OK with traveling for a couple of hours to get to and from the club?

- Are you going to be driving or use public transportation?

- Near which city are you going to be staying?

- What kind of girls do you like. Are you ok with a few extra pounds?

- Is the number of girls in the club important to you?

- Which services do you like. Is BBBJ important to you? Is GFE important to you? Other services?

- Which facilities are important to you? Wellness, bar / nightclub, relax lounge, garden, pool, kino, restaurant and food?

- How important is cleanliness to you? (I'm thinking about the club, not the girls).

- Are you comfortable with girls using aggressive or pushy sales techniques, both in and out of the room?

Clubs in NRW generally charge between 40 and 60 euro per half hour. However, while BBBJ is included in some clubs, BBBJ is an extra in other clubs. BBBJ can be ridiculously high priced at 50 euro, bringing the price for 30 minutes with BBBJ up to 100 euro.

It is also worth noting that with 30-minute rooms, most girls will end the session once you come, so you are not getting the 30 minutes you paid for. They will also try to hurry the session by going fast and / or using hand.

[Sirioja]

I don't really want to pay the Hessen rates (100/30). If I can go to only one FKK in NRW area where should it be? Samya, Aca Gold, Babylon?

Last visit to FKK was pre-covid to Artemis. Looking to find that experience again in NRW, but I worry it doesn't exist at the 50 euro for 30 min rate in NRW.

Are Frankfurt options so much better than it is worth the higher rates?

Most of Hessen girls are not pretty enough for new 2022 rates. Prettier looks at Gold from Thursday to Sunday after 3 pm, and BBBJ is quite standard for 40 or 50/30. Samya is not on top for looks, but Rosa there is queen for BBBJ.

[AznHotBoy]

I don't really want to pay the Hessen rates (100/30). If I can go to only one FKK in NRW area where should it be? Samya, Aca Gold, Babylon?

If Dina from Sharks is a no show today, I'll be heading over to NRW as well. Aca Gold and Prime was decent when I visited in 2021.

Personally, I don't think Frankfurt rates are worth it. Austria is probably better for medium-high prices at the moment. Swiss is ok but not as good as before covid. But I rather pay Swiss prices in Switzerland.

[LookForFun]

I don't really want to pay the Hessen rates (100/30). If I can go to only one FKK in NRW area where should it be? Samya, Aca Gold, Babylon?

Last visit to FKK was pre-covid to Artemis. Looking to find that experience again in NRW, but I worry it doesn't exist at the 50 euro for 30 min rate in NRW.

Are Frankfurt options so much better than it is worth the higher rates?

[Gonzo88]

Will be in FRA on Tuesday, it is forecast to be 38 C / 100 F in the afternoon. I looked through the threads and there appears to be some inconsistent information. Between OASE, Sharks, and Mainhatten, which of these clubs have air-conditioning in the zimmer and in the main area? I remember Shark's being really hot in the summer, but it sounds like some of the rooms now have AC? What about Oase?

Thanks!

[DrPoon]

The Euro has hit dollar parity for the first time in 20 years. Enjoy guys.

Interesting hope for the USD remaing a world reserve currency. We can assume this is due to the high energy prices and gas shortages in Europe.

[Turgid]

The Euro has hit dollar parity for the first time in 20 years. Enjoy guys.

[Sirioja]

Just an oil question with all the high mileage do you use synthetic oil or conventional oil since the car is high mileage and how often do you change the oil and / or filter?

I am using the Fram 10,000 miles filter and do about three oil changes before changing the filter to save money.

I follow Audi program = changing oil and filter every 30000 kms and same for powerful S5 , with long life Castrol 5 W30. My old lady engine is still healthy at 625000 kms and pushing every week end in Germany. What I call quality. When engine did warm up, then best for it is to push, which clean it. I wish I will find my S5 with guaranty on engine, gearbox and transmission when it will have to go for about 100 km / h faster it ever was, and I want only the Richard Wagner sound, not Akrapovic race sound. Not sure I will find as I wished for my Summer tour finishing in Ventoux, then old lady will go until I find the good one, beautiful and healthy I can prepare for flexifuel and more powerful to improve from 285 km / h just easily switching off speed limit in electronics to 300 , needing much more power when for this speed I won t find any car to follow stuck in its back to be faster, like I can sometimes faster than 220 with old lady. Interesting work I look forward. I chose this engine because except oil and filter to change, with chain for valves, nothing more, and mechanic quattro, not electronics correcting to kill You. And of course, manual gearbox more able for increased power, not automatic like RS.

[DrPoon]

Since March, I spend 600 more monthly for my driving, reason why I chose S5 but the only real one, to make with flexifuel French technology 0.8 per liter and increasing engine power of course, when I m poor and can t pay Hessen rates but in Rhur for higher quality.

Just an oil question with all the high mileage do you use synthetic oil or conventional oil since the car is high mileage and how often do you change the oil and / or filter?

I am using the Fram 10,000 miles filter and do about three oil changes before changing the filter to save money.

[Sirioja]

Even when gas demand sunk due to lock downs in April 2020 and prices bottomed out at beginning of COVID, gasoline bottomed at 1.22 USD per Liter. Now it is 1.99 USD per liter. That's only a 62% increase and also not a true indicator of inflation as 1.22 was not even the true sustained price.

And prior to covid, gasoline was 1.6 USD per Liter, making true gasoline inflation only 24%.

Neither of which are anywhere near the 100% increase girls are asking.

Since March, I spend 600 € more monthly for my driving, reason why I chose S5 but the only real one, to make with flexifuel French technology 0.8 € per liter and increasing engine power of course, when I m poor and can t pay Hessen rates but in Rhur for higher quality.

[Escape Artist]

Even when gas demand sunk due to lock downs in April 2020 and prices bottomed out at beginning of COVID, gasoline bottomed at 1.22 USD per Liter. Now it is 1.99 USD per liter. That's only a 62% increase and also not a true indicator of inflation as 1.22 was not even the true sustained price.

And prior to covid, gasoline was 1.6 USD per Liter, making true gasoline inflation only 24%.

Neither of which are anywhere near the 100% increase girls are asking.

[Sirioja]

Can still find high level girls, even Germans, with higher level than most at Globe, for 40 or 50 per 30 in Germany. Most often for 2 full GFE hours for me with my wow German. Except my very expensive Swiss 18 yo virgin look but really looking like a woman, but best value for money on 2022 will be in Germany but not Hessen, even pretty Ukrainian Lana Mainhattan was for 150/60 and turning full GFE even small pussy. Best clubs are in Hessen, but not best girls. Switzerland is much too expensive for level of most girls.

[Shark16]

Hey Shark16,
Thanks for your thoughts. In my personal opinion, I think the prices should have gone up to around 60 Euro / HH then eventually 75 Euro / HH for standard service (enthusiastic DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS)

Pretty much my sentiments, too. Inflationadjusted prices should be around 60- 65 E for a quality session in Hessen (maybe 70 E with this year's inflation). Not more. Therefore I would be happy to tip a bit above 50 E hh if the performance is good.

Where we part a bit is the pessimistic tone of "it is not possible to negotiate". It IS possible. Even with the prettiest girls. Even without losing any quality in her performance. Just be friendly and not act like the cheapest of charlies. The girls expect some resistance when quoting prices. I know, because even on my recent trip half my sessions were 100 E /60 (Oase / Sharks).

I also experienced a couple of girls quoting 200 E /60. Probably around 5- 8% of the girls I was chatting up. The two girls would not back down, but would be happy to include some extra services, I. E. 150 E for a GFE + 50 E for an extra. So not any big surprise really. I politely declined. There were many good and better alternatives around. And I had just been fully satisfied in the room with a regular for 100 E /60.

No girls quoted 250- 300 E for plain services as rumoured on ISG. A girl explained to me that they would risk being kicked out if they asked too much for nothing. However, I bet they are easily forgiven if doing so during crowded party nights or big fairs.

Yeah, my budget a day used to be 250 E + entrance fee with five solid sessions. Long gone. In the latter years I preferred 3 x longer 100 E sessions. Sometimes I still manage. At other times I have to adjust to 2 x 150 E sessions. Budget still the same resulting in fewer girls getting my money. With less sessions I emphasize more on the quality of spa and garden facilities. The FKK experience (attractive naked girls all around asking for sex) is still unique to me. I am not ready to quit the FKK scene. Not yet. But I may want to explore other FKK clubs in differenct regions / countries (I already have).

Thanks for the source.

- S16.