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07-26-22 05:39 #15148
Posts: 310Great report. Kudos for scoring a Fisha Rosa. More talked about than accomplished. I posted it as a report of distinction.
Originally Posted by HiddenEye [View Original Post]
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07-26-22 05:02 #15147
Posts: 217Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
FewD said he wasn't talking about only Scandallo and SP. He was talking about Brazil as a whole and so was I. He said the locals pay 500 and anything over that is gringo prices. I said you really limit yourself with that kind of self imposed budget.
My comparisons of restaurants in Italy=girls in Brazil. There are many to choose from and all come at different prices. Some start at $ and go to $$ Some guys think it's worth it and some don't. McDonald's=clinicas. Set prices and decent experience but limited and sometimes more than not same old options on the menu. You can spend 500 or so to have a clinica girl come spend the night with you but sometimes you find that these girls are just good for 1 HR worth of fun and not much else. You expand your horizon a bit and you find some girls who are very intelligent, funny and have real goals in their lives that you like spending time with, hell the sex is just a cherry on the top. Point is there are many different options and in the land of GFE and PSE you should definitely explore your options.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTgY...nnel=SenpaiKai
This video of how michelin star chef cut their onions adds another layer to what I'm saying.
There is more attention to detail as little as cutting the onion to enhance your food as a whole and your experience. I would say that would equate to how a girl gives great BBBJ with eye contact and great technique.
There are more faster and easier way to cut the same onion but that could leave with a less enhanced experience like a girl with CBJ or very mechanical lazy technique.
It's still a BJ and gets the job done but it's the details that really makes or breaks it.
I'm not saying paying more gives you a better a experience as I think we all have gone to a high end restaurant and had a sub par experience like they microwaved your food (London has got to be the worst place for fine dining just FYI).
But more often than not you'll check the reviews and see 5 stars after 5 stars glowing reviews and see that they live up to a certain reputation for a reason.
Just like food some of us romanticize the other pleasures of life and the other side of man: women. Some guys just see a hole and any will do. Like a meal is just a daily calorie intake, sex is just another way to get off. Sometimes I like my steaks in a good looking joint in a high rise over looking the city with some nice piano in the background just sizzling. Sometimes I like my girls the same. I like a sense of adventure and a worth while story to tell. Like the one german blonde blue eye garota that was so smitten that she spent a whole week free of charge in rio, cooking and cleaning and taking care of all my needs. unforgettable and priceless.
As someone who has tried pretty much all the big boates, prives and termas in SP and Rio and online girls I can say there is lots of options and you should try as much as you can and see for yourself what's out there.
To each their own but just for the new guys, do what you please and don't limit your fun.
Most of us have already paid a girl 1200 BRL just to session in Scandallo albeit just not directly (400 Entrance, 500 girl fee, 230 Room, 70 Uber ride round trip back home).
God forbid we give them that money directly, it's not like they need it. They're just dumb working girls, everyone of them (NOTE: the writer would like to point out this is sarcasm because some folks are very dense).
That's my piece and I end it there.
Talk amongst yourselves.
FIN.
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07-26-22 02:45 #15146
Posts: 46SP Weekend #2
Following up on my plan to try Scandallo as it was meant to be experienced, I showed up just before 7 pm on Thursday night (which various girls have said to be the most popular). While walking around the club, I finally saw a girl which triggered my "go" instinct. We had a good conversation, then went up for my first room experience at the club. Overall it was ok. She was hot by my standards (maybe 8. 5) but the experience itself was methodical and clinical mostly despite the good conversation and initial chemistry. We exchanged contact information.
I had a nice chat with a guy from Miami on a business trip (the social highlight of the evening). And then found the girl I sessioned with 3 x last week (the cold, hot one). She was mildly warmer as my Portuguese improved and I decided to take her up the rooms as well because I wanted another go before going home. Again, hot, but methodical and clinical. I actually asked why she was cold, and she said that's just her way while working and she wouldn't be with her boyfriend (when she has one). Respectable choice, albeit unprofessional.
What's the conclusion? Unless you've had a few drinks or the girl is not hot, the hot ones seem to be mediocre experiences. I did not leave particularly satisfied. I suspect the guys who rave about the performance here are either drinking or not going after the hot girls.
Another notable observation is that after coming down around 10:30-11 pm, the club had changed completely. People were no longer outside drinking and smoking, but inside at the party area. There were also way more women, including some very hot (but blonde) ones with smoking bodies. Maybe these are the girls who actually provide good service and are hot? Will come back on a later day to test this theory out.
Encouraged by my good conversation with the first girl, I invited her to my hotel on Friday. This was the best conversation and best sex so far with a Scandallo girl. I decided to book her for the next two days, which turned out to be a big mistake. While we hit up some good restaurants on Saturday, she became progressively more bored (using Instagram more often) and put less effort into sex or conversation. Maybe I'm getting older but it seems Instagram is a plague on a person's personality, either making them utterly bored with normal conversations or care about meaningless crap memes.
It didn't matter that I was interested in her life, trying to understand what she wanted and offering what ideas I had that might help. She was dead bored (20 years old) and I ended up letting her go early on Sunday morning after she decided she didn't like kissing. I also made the rookie mistake of paying her for both days on Sunday morning (before the second day was over). Both the girls I saw at Scandallo, despite being hot, generally failed to put in much effort to the experience. It reminded me of the kids who didn't like being at school, just showing up and getting by with as little effort as possible. Probably the mindset of a lot of escorts.
I ended up scheduling with a girl from a sugar dating site, and she flaked. Then I scheduled a second girl from the same site, and she was completely different from her pictures. Great conversation (the best of any girl) but she was quite average and enthusiasm never makes up for that (for me). Basically the rest of the day was a disaster However, I'm doing a new thing now where I tell them to send me a 5-10 second video where they say Hi to me using my name. I'm hoping this will weed out some of the fake accounts and fake pictures. We'll see. I've tried to do video calls before but these turn into as much of a production to schedule as the date itself to the point where it's not practical.
I have another sugar date scheduled for tomorrow and likely one for Wednesday. If these don't work out, I'll use Scandallo as a backup (or Bomboa, which is now walking distance from my Airbnb). Sampa continues to provide so many options, it's hard not to love it here.
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07-26-22 02:17 #15145
Posts: 130If people are just looking for model / high end / elite girls or whatever you want to call them, the numbers will range from zero to about 3 a night there. Better to check online ads and those sites where there are more. Save yourself some time instead of going through everything at Scandallo and might not even see any and leave disappointed.
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07-26-22 01:38 #15144
Posts: 255Ficha Rosa SP from event to hotel
Unfortunately this year the Sao Paulo Auto Salon will not take place during the F1 Interlagos week. So, this screenshot story from videos is a great reminder of those days.
I saw this lovely brunette promo model in the event, she was one that gave me her WhatsApp number with no much hesitation, she wasn't my favorite TBH until I saw her pics on her insta. Dam! She was a true bomb! Incredible butt as you can see. Then I proposed her to shoot a few pics in my Pinheiros app where I set a small studio with flashes and white background. She was just incredible, a round peach butt the way I like them. The first shoot it was just sexy bikini lingerie pics. She was very fun an relaxed, enjoyed excersing her beauty, posing and bending over and let me do extreme close ups to her ass, her natural firm ass and her very very well made fake tits. Oh god, my dick ended super hard, of course she noticed it under my pants.
That very night, I proposed her a second shoot this time in a motel, so my proposal would be easy to understand. She agreed and agreed US $300 after having asked 400 dollars. We met in a cafe around 6 pm, we talked for a while and then we headed to a motel. A motel she already knew!! LOL when we walked up the stairs, I saw her great ass in those yoga pants, I was like in heaven, such and incredible bikini babe. She closed the bathroom and dressed with a tiny black bikini, then she showed in the room with that bathrobe, then the shooting started. She finally asked me to leave my camera when I started to oil her body and ass, then everything rolled the way it should be. We ended up in the jacuzzi and then fucking on the carpet. Very strong unorthodox sex, the way I like it.
You can see her lips have like a bubble to the right side, and of course, the tattoo of some sort of plant few inches from her right hip, so it's the same girl the entire footage.
It took time, yes, almost two weeks patient since I met her at the event, and around US $750 for the two sessions for her. More expensive than two session with a Top escort in SP? Maybe, but the experience was simply unforgettable.
I wanted my dick inside that ass. And I know about asses.
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07-26-22 01:21 #15143
Posts: 235Four hands
Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
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07-25-22 21:58 #15142
Posts: 1148Avg. Looking girls?
Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1 [View Original Post]
Is it fair to say, you want to find "model/high-end" type women at Scandallo (a place befitting of such beauties), in abundance (meaning wayyyyy less avg. Girls) and at a reasonable price, that don't disappoint/perform well. (I think you mentioned this before). My apologies if I got any or all the above wrong.
Hmmm.... It may appear at a glance that Scandallo may not be your ideal place to find what your looking for and there are no guarantees that paying higher prices translates to performing well. (ie. Lot of starfishes to be found at higher prices, as well as at lower prices).
NOTE: Very nice Scandallo Truman's Triangle though: 1. Model/high-end girls, 2. In abundance/less avg. Girls and 3.Reasonable price/preform well.
What I did find of interest, in your post, was the dismissal of average looking girls (well dismissal may not be the right word), perhaps more of a brushoff. But, for a guy like me (nice body 1st), that naturally works in my favour, as "average looking" girls with great bodies and a good attitude is right up my ally.
The other thought or point of interest, is that these "average looking" girls provide a vital and necessary service, that is often overlooked. For me at any rate, I see them in an entirely different light.
Things to consider if she's an "Avg. Looking girl":
- Consider her akin to a fluffer at a porn shoot (...kkkk!)
- Great confidence builder, if you lack "whatever", when around Brazilian women
- Great practice material for when you step up to the big-stage with those high-end "model" types
- Consider working on those negotiating skills
- Avg. girls with more attitude and personality then looks, are absolute fun to past the time, if you wish to chill for a while and shot the shit
- "Casual chilling" with Avg. girls (naturally with a nice body and a good attitude), while waiting for something better, in my experience, has numerous times, ended up being a fantastic time, in and out of bed.
- IMHO I've found them very eager to please, with a more service oriented attitude.
Just something to consider (given you have the time and/or willingness), when you're not quite seeing what you want in a place like Scandallo. But to each their own.
Originally Posted by Balboa [View Original Post]
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07-25-22 16:52 #15141
Posts: 2986Observation
Just trying to apply some more logic to the pricing strategy. LOL.
Originally Posted by Safado007 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Safado007 [View Original Post]
One possibility in the change of pricing structure, is some girl decided that they can/want to get the same amount of money with less work / sex. And that is fueled by mongers who want exclusive access. Another ISGer reminded me that sharing is cheaper that was the old way he is used to.
So when I take the above into consideration, FewDie's post have some truth to it. I am not saying I agree with everything he said.
If you have been to some of the KTVs in Asia, especially the high end ones. There is a sharing price that a girl will visit different tables/rooms for a fixed amount of time then move on. This is cheaper. If one decides to keep a girl and not allow the girl to be shared with others, then one has to pay a premium, and commits to a minimum number of hours regardless the amount of time you spent there.
Originally Posted by Safado007 [View Original Post]
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07-25-22 12:55 #15140
Posts: 130Originally Posted by Tochka [View Original Post]
Scandallo random.
In my mind, I thought scandallo would be similar to Hong Kong in Tijuana for closing hours. Never really closed. I finished a session at 0500 am Sunday morning. We exit the room, whoah, the cashiers are gone, and the hallway lights are turned off. I used the phone light to walk around. The entire lobby was completely dark. No cashiers, no garotas, nada, no dozens of maseros, no half dozen security guys buzzing around. Doors slammed shut. The parking gate pulled down. The place was completely dark. Locked inside. The chica and I started wandering around the lobby using my phone light to eventually find a security guy to let us out. She had her car parked inside and drove off soon as the gates were activated. No goodbyes. Left my ass to find a uber. There ends my Scandallo trip. Thanks, JZelezlznik for the useful report and Alex Heyst.
Did you not have to pay for the room or your admission / consumption that night? Or did they find someone to settle your bill?
I had a few FKK sessions that ended when the club was closing. But it was the opposite. The club went from a semi dark environment to. All the lights being on. And I felt blinded!
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07-25-22 12:39 #15139
Posts: 130Originally Posted by HoustonPlayer [View Original Post]
I usually order some fritters to snack or the filet mignon when I want a real meal. Their caldo capeletti is also a good option for hot comfort food.
The sushi is high quality, almost similar to Nakka. I don't know which all you can eat Sushi place Vagabundo1 is referring to, but a local Asian girl who is a big foodie took me to this place in Libertade and it was very good:
http://www.tankarestaurante.com.br/
On a final note, you can also use your consumption on tobacco products (cigarettes, cigars or e-cigarettes / vape).
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07-25-22 07:56 #15138
Posts: 130People here seems to think that Scandallo is "heaven" or something and thinks it has sooooo many beautiful people. The false / enhanced illusion is coming from the high quality sound of the music, ambient / lighting, good restaurant, the elegant clothings, and their makeup. Take all of that away and once you push everyone of them in to a swimming pool, they will be coming up looking like everyone else you see in the bottom half of the country which is where the majority of them came from. Scandallo is fun but overexagerated like eating that Big Mac and fries for the first time.
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07-25-22 07:30 #15137
Posts: 49Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
1) Are there hobbying venues like Scandallo, strip clubs, etc. That you can meet and chat up a girl before taking her back to your hotel?
Not sure on current mongering spots, as I was with family. Lots of massage flyers everywhere. I did notice some BA providers in Massage Republic quote in pesos, today I saw some at 10,000-15,000 pesos. (10,000 today is about $32). In dollars they quoted $100 ish.
2) Is the average service level comparable to Brazil?
I have been there 5-6 times, half the sex workers are Brazilian and Uruguayan anyway. I have found Brazilians better providers.
3) is Western Union the best way to get a good rate on ARS? I presume I shouldn't send more than I expect to use, as it'll be very difficult to impossible to switch back to USD.
Bring cash, WU is a backup if you are uncomfortable bringing cash or need more than 10 K and are traveling alone.
You can definitely change back at a price 10%-15% less than you were given (less the peso market change as well). I found in BA use Calle Florida, it totally safe or there is a great spot in Puerto Madero that actually pays about 6 cents more. , it is on Hilton side of the water, on the pedestrian walk next to the water about 4-5 doors down from Central Market. Every decent sized city I went to had street money changers, though they offered close to 10% less than BA. Usually outside of BA there were 3-4 people, seemed to be a Cambio Mafia with price fixing. One good tip is to insist on 1,000 peso notes, they will stick you with 200 and 500 if you let them. Only bring perfect $100 bills, preferably with a blue stripe. Imperfect bills with small imoerfections will either not be accepted or will be offered much less.
4) Are the nice 5 star hotels in BA girl friendly?
I always stay at either Hilton or Alvear Palace and have never had issues. The Hilton is especially good as the elevators do not require a key to access.
5) Do the nice hotels and restaurants accept ARS or only USD due to their inflation? I figure if I use a credit card and pay in either ARS or USD, I would be getting the shitty "official" rate.
I would advise.
Never prepay your hotel in dollars. Either reserve now pay later on Booking.com or another OTA or book through a major hotel chains website, only putting up your card as a guarantee. I paid every hotel in Pesos, I think you pay a local tax but the discount is about 50%. AirBnB and VRBO properties only want to be paid via international credit card in foreign currency as the money likely never touches an Argentine bank.
Pay every restaurant in pesos.
For domestic air travel, you can pay Aerolineas Argentinas in pesos but they are more expensive than the more popular "ULCCs" who only sell online. I was able to make a deal with a Calle Florida exchange office to use his local debit card for flights and meet him halfway between the official rate and the blue rate. I wish I had time to figure out transatlantic 1st Class at a 50% discount.
For Uber switch to cash for the trip.
6) With all the extra logistical obstacles BA has compared to SP, is it even worth it to go for a short trip, especially when the cost of hobbying there seems comparable.
Financially it is a great time to go, but the BA weather is close to freezing.
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07-25-22 02:56 #15136
Posts: 6471What's in a name?
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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07-24-22 21:41 #15135
Posts: 163Sunday afternoon in SP
I went to Prime Sunday afternoon around 1 pm, good lineup on wassap. Nice to know Murina and Prime are open Sunday with a solid lineup by checking before showing up.
Thanks for the protip guys and the gas station tip. Yup, they sell my brand of whiskey in travel size.
At the corner gas station. Bought a bunch to drink in the Clinicas.
At Prime Karen and Ariella were available. As previous forum posters highly recommended those garotas. I grabbed both for duplo. Got to jump on the good ones quickly. Prime seemed to be packed with five or six guys soon after opening on Sunday. Thanks, Nebulousity for the clinca strategy.
I session with both garotas earlier in the week. So knew them to be outstanding performers.
I wasn't let down. The duo was the best session of the trip.
They did porno-style mind-blowing, toe curling, never-ending deepthroat BJ forever.
Don't get the pricing at prime. The friendly cool older blonde charged me $350 for the hour with both of them. ? A fantastico deal. Karen the blonde and Ariella my coca cream work well together. Both have been referenced on gpgua and here. They sloppy shared the sucking, tongues licking at the same time over the dick. Kissing and tonguing each other. My dick solidly in between both mouths. Shared ice cream cone sucking. Even better, none of the wiping off the dick between slurping. Nope direct sloppy salvia and cum sharing on my dick without stopping for 45 min solid. I had them change positions a few times. By ten minutes into they took over, no instructions needed. They did their own rotating between rimming and deepthroat gagging same time. Took turns pushing each other heads down for deepthroat face f*cking.
Every space in the room, chairs, table, beds, twelve towels, six-bed spreads, the couch, floor, and window sill covered with a sloppy mess.
Haha. Kkkk. Rsrs. Top-level service.
At Prime, I still can't figure out the pricing. This time the loud friendly older lady only charged me are $350 for the hour with two garotas doing insane Duplo.
Scandallo random.
In my mind, I thought scandallo would be similar to Hong Kong in Tijuana for closing hours. Never really closed. I finished a session at 0500 am Sunday morning. We exit the room, whoah, the cashiers are gone, and the hallway lights are turned off. I used the phone light to walk around. The entire lobby was completely dark. No cashiers, no garotas, nada, no dozens of maseros, no half dozen security guys buzzing around. Doors slammed shut. The parking gate pulled down. The place was completely dark. Locked inside. The chica and I started wandering around the lobby using my phone light to eventually find a security guy to let us out. She had her car parked inside and drove off soon as the gates were activated. No goodbyes. Left my ass to find a uber. There ends my Scandallo trip. Thanks, JZelezlznik for the useful report and Alex Heyst.
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07-24-22 21:32 #15134
Posts: 2291Scandallo food and fine dining.
A fellow ISGer and one of the great wingmen, JimmyBoy, was of the opinion that the main value of going to Scandallo is to use the entrance fee to eat a good meal, and that the food was good.
Of course, JimmyBOy and I tend to concur that the best bang for the buck in SP is in the clinicas, like Miruna in Moema, where you can find real porn stars like Kamila Werneck (retired, though she still tramps around).
https://www.xvideos.com/models/kamilla-werneck#_tabVideos.
For the price of. What, 250 reais or so, which is 50 US Dollars, which is the main reason to come to Brazil, to find those diamonds in the clinicas who are true porn star quality. Another porn star who worked at Miruna was Cindy Blueberry. JimmyBoy is also savvy enough to write reviews on the local forums to get the discounts, truly a use of one's time posting these reviews that yields real, tangible economic benefits!
I concur, but I prefer the Sushi at that great all you can eat place that the late, great, and still remembered Alto Bom Gosto, ABG, used to take new guests to SP to in the heart of Japan town. I will look up the name.
Originally Posted by HoustonPlayer [View Original Post]