Seeking Arrangements

[Elvis 2008]

Yeah, you can call me an average monger, I don't mind. I don't think I'm superior in any way to other folks.

If you are an average monger, you are not getting anywhere. You give women money for sex and do not give a shit about how they feel afterwards. You are acting like Jack Miami's right, "They are all WGs. They are paid to a job. Who cares how they feel?

He is so closed off from a woman's feelings, he does not think it is possible that they care for anything outside of money. Just the fact that a woman is on seeking one time and goes on one date in his mind labels them as WGs out for a man's cash their whole life.

Being better means anticipating a woman's feelings before they do and mastering your own. So I fly a woman into Bogota and have her stay with me two days, which is a rookie move BTW. I think there is a time I even went out with another women and had her stay in the hotel while I was away. Anyway, we go at it quite a few times. She is good in bed, pretty enough like a 7, a year away from graduating law school, and I gave her $300, which is too much but what I agreed to, and she hands it back to me and says she cannot take it.

If you are Jack Miami, Mr. Average Monger, he thinks this is total bullshit. It cannot happen. His lizard brain cannot go beyond they are WG out for money. So would you agree that the reason she tried to give me back the money is she wanted a relationship with me? And the reason I insisted she take it is that I wanted that notion squashed?

If you can get that concept, you are ahead of the average monger. If you can sit and talk to her like a normal person and be a fun companion, you are better than an average monger. This was Covid times. All we did was eat, watch Netflix, have sex, and talk. And by refusing the money, she is saying, "I want this life with you". I picked out what we watched, and she loved it.

Stop with this "well other guys are giving money too" crap. Steve is married. Married guys should always be in paid arrangements for their own safety, and if DF wants to tell you his story, he can.

If I am out with a woman that I see no future with that I want to bang, yeah, I will lay out the cash for sex. If she just wants money for sex, the same applies. With this gal, I opened up with cash, and I am not saying do not do that. What I am saying is do not open with money if you do not have to. Leave yourself open to the possibility that a woman may not just want your money. Most will, but there are a few who will not.

[Jack Miami]

The thing with a guy like Jack Miami is they make up this ideal that I have never seen. There must be this marvelous wonderland that he speaks of where the women do not care about money and the men do not care about looks. Perhaps he has a key to some kind of club with people like that. I am still waiting for the day a woman says, "I like that you are well to do but I cannot have sex with someone with such shallow views on Nietzsche. ".

What are you talking about? Where did I say anything like that?

[DramaFree11]

Yeah, you can call me an average monger, I don't mind. I don't think I'm superior in any way to other folks. Don't get me wrong though, finding a perfect girlfriend requires a shit ton of work and time, but this is not enough. Other factors come into play, like language skills, social skills, the amount of time one is willing to spend in a foreign country and so on. And yes, luck is one of the factors, you have to be at the right place at the right time. This can't just be predicted. What can I and other posters learn from your posts other than "don't be a john", "don't offer money", "wear a suit"? I pay, DF pays, Steve pays, and we all have fun, why is this a problem for you? Key to having a great time is to weed out all the scam artists and hardcore pros, and find great semi pros or non pros with whom you have decent chemistry. We all pay one way or another.

We all pay. Elvis pays as well. Usually when guys say they do not pay, they actually pay way more. I do not care what anybody pays, totally their own decision.

[MiamiBoy1]

MB, I completely agree with you. That said, I do not think you get on what. You just called yourself an average monger and I completely agree.

My case was hardly luck, not a one time thing, and I have said what I did to up my game dozens of time, but you never learn. FastMD is playing the same game I did and having similar results. You are just doing the sour grapes thing and foolishly outted yourself an average monger. Maybe the problem is not realism but your lack of game.

If it was just my being lucky, which is the ultimate loser stance, why is someone else replicating what I did?

Yeah, you can call me an average monger, I don't mind. I don't think I'm superior in any way to other folks. Don't get me wrong though, finding a perfect girlfriend requires a shit ton of work and time, but this is not enough. Other factors come into play, like language skills, social skills, the amount of time one is willing to spend in a foreign country and so on. And yes, luck is one of the factors, you have to be at the right place at the right time. This can't just be predicted. What can I and other posters learn from your posts other than "don't be a john", "don't offer money", "wear a suit"? I pay, DF pays, Steve pays, and we all have fun, why is this a problem for you? Key to having a great time is to weed out all the scam artists and hardcore pros, and find great semi pros or non pros with whom you have decent chemistry. We all pay one way or another.

[FastMdSter]

I use a different gmail account with a two-factor ID.

In addition to what you have listed I keep the seeking URL of their profile. This has helped me identify if they are offline or blocked me.

I thought if you can't see their pic they have blocked you or their membership is expired.

I know I didn't respond to some pros with ppm numbers in messages to me so I don't get suspended. And sometimes their pic is blocked.

[AsianPursuits]

Not everyone's jam but since we are doing show and tell on tips:

I actually keep a password-protected document on my computer. It logs.

I use a different gmail account with a two-factor ID.

In addition to what you have listed I keep the seeking URL of their profile. This has helped me identify if they are offline or blocked me.

[Ggekko2009]

Not everyone's jam but since we are doing show and tell on tips:

I actually keep a password-protected document on my computer. It logs.

- who I am in contact with.

- pictures of them (since they often come down and up).

- their contact info (since sometimes girls leave SA).

- what offer I made them (since sometimes I do diff amt).

- what I thought of them if we met and whether I would do again.

Because once you get past 5 or 6 experiences they start to blend together. The registry helps.

Lord I pray nobody ever sees it tho. It's pretty explicit. Eg "let me do an-l but wasn't happy about it."

Everyone has their own process I guess. I keep all my whatsapp and text communications and contacts on separate profiles in my phone. My Samsung phone allows me to do that which is a plus. This will prevent things from bleeding into my personal profile. That will also include any media that are meant for personal consumption only, hehehe.

[Elvis 2008]

Touche. Based on that guy's past posts, he has contributed nothing but just trolling, criticisms and solicitation of information.

Many of us have enjoyed reading your field reports.

Yeah, I agree. I have not been to Globe but I had strippers that I would meet up with outside the club. There was no comparison fucking them bare compared to the equally attractive WGs doing their fifth covered generic performance of the day.

The thing with a guy like Jack Miami is they make up this ideal that I have never seen. There must be this marvelous wonderland that he speaks of where the women do not care about money and the men do not care about looks. Perhaps he has a key to some kind of club with people like that. I am still waiting for the day a woman says, "I like that you are well to do but I cannot have sex with someone with such shallow views on Nietzsche. ".

[Jack Miami]

Since your life sucks. I will leave this here:

Texts from realtor why all the guys reaching out are crazy and it's easy to see she is looking for a match to what she wants.

Texts from the finance mgr who I said was late to the botanist and thought would never show up.

Texts from the 20 yr old nympho that is in love with my dick.

Images in order of above if it works correctly.

Just because you can't accomplish it, doesn't mean others can't. As I said before I have no issue paying, but some of them have other intentions. Just part of the game.

"I'm not going to feed the troll," says the self-described "BDE," right before launching childish personal attacks and posting a dozen paragraphs and a bunch of screenshots in response to the "troll's" two-sentence comment.

LOL.

[Jack Miami]

You clearly have no experience in Europe and from your posts it stated, no experience with FKKs. I won't feed your troll posts.

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What the hell do FKKs have to do with this?

It seems I hit a nerve, so you're throwing everything at the wall.

[FastMdSter]

Wow, guess I hit a nerve.

I didn't read all of the above wall of text, but one of the women to which you referred in your second paragraph specifically said she was on SA because "real estate has slowed down" and because "Vancouver guys are cheap," so I'm not buying the whole "I offered her $800 but she wouldn't take it" story.

The name of the site is Seeking Arrangement. The idea that nice girls are on there looking for nice guys is just utterly delusional.

As I said a year or two ago in my old posts you found, stop paying and see how long any of these really special relationships last.

Since your life sucks. I will leave this here:

Texts from realtor why all the guys reaching out are crazy and it's easy to see she is looking for a match to what she wants.

Texts from the finance mgr who I said was late to the botanist and thought would never show up.

Texts from the 20 yr old nympho that is in love with my dick.

Images in order of above if it works correctly.

Just because you can't accomplish it, doesn't mean others can't. As I said before I have no issue paying, but some of them have other intentions. Just part of the game.

[Ggekko2009]

Who Is a Sex Addict?

Although sex addicts may act out sexually in many different ways, there are common elements that seem to characterize our addiction:

Powerlessness over addictive sexual behavior.

Resulting unmanageability of his / her life.

Feelings of shame, pain, and self-loathing.

Failed promises and attempts to stop acting out.

Preoccupation with sex leading to ritual.

Progressive worsening of negative consequences.

https://saa-recovery.org/am-i-a-sex-addict/ Find a meeting! You may need help!

Nope, I have none of these diagnosis or symptoms. I just enjoy sex with women like many of the readers here.

[Ggekko2009]

You clearly have no experience in Europe and from your posts it stated, no experience with FKKs. I won't feed your troll posts.

But if you think paying for a flight and fucking 2-4 x a day for week and paying for eating is not free, I don't know what world you live in. You are not getting a 9/10 in Switzerland for $200 US.

I have no problem fucking for free, I want no attachments. True one night stands are rare. I could share the text messages and I from your post I know what type of person you are.

I will continue to post field reports for the benefit of guys traveling to the same places.

You can believe what you want.

Touche. Based on that guy's past posts, he has contributed nothing but just trolling, criticisms and solicitation of information.

Many of us have enjoyed reading your field reports.

[FastMdSter]

Flying strippers to Europe and paying all related expenses is the exact opposite of "fucking for free," especially when legit 9's and 10's can be fucked in Europe for $200 or less. (Or literally for free, if you really have BDE.).

You clearly have no experience in Europe and from your posts it stated, no experience with FKKs. I won't feed your troll posts.

But if you think paying for a flight and fucking 2-4 x a day for week and paying for eating is not free, I don't know what world you live in. You are not getting a 9/10 in Switzerland for $200 US.

I have no problem fucking for free, I want no attachments. True one night stands are rare. I could share the text messages and I from your post I know what type of person you are.

I will continue to post field reports for the benefit of guys traveling to the same places.

You can believe what you want.

[Elvis 2008]

Let's not be delusional!

Elvis, please stop bragging about your 9-10 girlfriend, you mention her all the time. If she is really a perfect woman in every aspect and is into you for real, well, my congrats to you, you hit a jackpot. But your case is an exception due to combination of factors and luck, I had said this before, chances that an average monger from the US or any other country finds himself a 9 or 10 freebie (heck, even an 8! While traveling for a short period of time, are close to zero, let's be realistic here. And I'm sure while you are not paying her directly, you provide her a good quality lifestyle, take her to nice places, restaurants, buy her nice gifts, etc.

MB, I completely agree with you. That said, I do not think you get on what. You just called yourself an average monger and I completely agree.

My case was hardly luck, not a one time thing, and I have said what I did to up my game dozens of time, but you never learn. FastMD is playing the same game I did and having similar results. You are just doing the sour grapes thing and foolishly outted yourself an average monger. Maybe the problem is not realism but your lack of game.

If it was just my being lucky, which is the ultimate loser stance, why is someone else replicating what I did?