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07-31-22 18:57 #3725
Posts: 6457Wasting Time
Originally Posted by SethiatSpace [View Original Post]
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07-31-22 18:11 #3724
Posts: 2821Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
I had one girl ask me to buy her gifts instead of money, I declined. Gifts have more emotional meaning for me vs. Money. Not to mention the time that would go into buying gifts every meeting, hell no.
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07-31-22 18:04 #3723
Posts: 2751Why Paying Makes Sense
There are several reasons why I pay an SB.
First and most obvious is because a hot young thing in her twenties is not going to give a mediocre looking guy in his fifties the time of day in some other setting. If she's on Seeking she has self qualified as willing to accept the age gap / flaws and doesn't find it creepy (at least the ones I date).
But I really do establish a deep connection with my favorite girls. And maybe I am delusional but they seem to truly enjoy the sex meaningful and long with attention to her needs and the affection and companionship all NSA and no drama. Would they still date me with no $$? I know at least a handful that would.
So at that point why pay? Because I care about these girls. Really do.
1. They need it way more than I do.
2. I don't want them seeking alternatives. If they can't pay the rent they might like me but they are going to get with a guy who helps them out.
3. They totally deserve to be paid! We all pay our wives and girlfriends with free housing and food and jewelry. And they don't do shit! The cost per fuck in my marriage was probably about $10K per for a lot of our marriage! WTF. How is that fair. These girls DESERVE our money. Goddamn bargain compared to being married! LOL
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07-31-22 15:08 #3722
Posts: 134There has been talk about girls falling for their "john's". I feel sorry for these girls, for they have forgotten to keep in mind that the act they get from the man is fake. It's the same situation than when a guy falls for their paid girl, but he big difference is that the paying client. Who becomes a non-paying client. Is willing to take advantage of the situation and keep the act going, without compensation. Girls won't do it, they either will want to have the payment or they will be nice persons and cut it off.
It's no surprise that a girl can fall for a guy in paid situation, because people fall for each other all the time. Man can remind them of their father, their brother, their uncle, or their ex. Or the guy they never had, but wanted to have. Or the man represents the culturally adopted ideas that the girl fancies about a man. Or, the man is like a mirror image for the girl, being such a personality that they resemble each other or fit together as a hand and a glove. These are the seeds that will start to grow, when given the chance. And when the girl is promised to have money for spending time with a man, there comes the chance. It can't be pre-planned, it just happens if it happens. But as you know, the more years you spend with your regular, the more it becomes a possibility that you will start to have a place in her fantasy life. Surely, or at least hopefully, it's just a passing phase. For example, thinking about if she should choose you to be the father for her child. But since we are all so human, these things happen. Otherwise it would be just cold, robotic meetings with nothing but acting.
I have noticed that after the initial 'crush phase' fades out, the arrangement can get back to normal. To make this happen is to not change anything in the relationship. Not to feed the wishes and fantasies and hopes of the girl. Otherwise, it will become the doom of the relationship. Maybe some would like to have that brief time of being in a relationship with a young hot girl, rather than keep her as a regular for years to come or at least as long as she is available. Well, each to his own. I have found so few girls to be such that I will not get bored to have sex with them, that I hope selfishly that they'd stay available for five more years rather than go start a family.
Now, I don't use SeekingArrangements. I've preferred amateurs, who have had an ad somewhere, but not where the pro's advertise. However, it's interesting to read how people speak about one's "game", when they are actually having paid meetings with a girl! It's like going back 20 years in life and doing it all over again (or the first time? But now with much better chances of scoring. With the help of the money. I can understand why this is interesting and addictive to men at any age. But my question is, what are you really after? There is the sex. There is the young woman. There is the situation of being the older guy with the younger woman, which feels special. And then there is the company, the attention one gets from the young woman. All of these are reasons to do it and pay for it, but some of them could be filled with a non-paid woman, also.
And then there's the fact that this one, not-so-humble (and probably not so secure, as he claims to be) guy wrote: paying is a way to have a psychological defence against real emotional involment with the girl. Sure, one can like her and all, get all worked up how great she is. But with payment, it's different. It's so different from doing all the same without any word about possible payment, without any thought about it from either of the people involved. Money makes it safe and secure. For me, money is the key in these relationships: it makes them possible to stay as they are. Sex, and then nothing until the next time, when it's time to have sex again. I can fantasize about the girls meanwhile, I can think how lovely they are, but I won't go for it. They won't expect from me anything more, either (when the relationship is as it should be). This is what I pay for. What do you pay for?
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07-31-22 14:48 #3721
Posts: 9Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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07-31-22 02:20 #3720
Posts: 2751No New Dates. Shayla Report Out
I guess the good and the bad for me is no new dates or seductions or tips to report. Just enjoying my home girl immensely. And since not too much going on here in the forum, I hope you will indulge me posting my latest visit with her. I write these for myself anyhow so enjoy if blow by blow appeals. Frankly I enjoy Penthouse letters like stories but feel free to speak up if this is OT. I guess it's a good demonstration that the gems do exist and timing is everything. Such a narrow slice of time that Shayla and I crossed on Seeking.
Shayla and I have been dating about six months now and I have yet to get bored. I love dinner time with her and sex time and pretty much just everything. She's def the best girl I've ever been in bed with and I actually like her too! Yeah I'm a little in love (eyes wide open).
We met up for dinner the other night. She looks amazing in crop top, tiny blue Jean shorts and heels. We had a lovely dinner surrounded by mostly folks in the sixties with a few families thrown in. We aren't shy or apologetic about our relationship with strangers just the older man with his clearly "too young for him" hawt AF girlfriend. LOL.
In the hotel room it's so comfy and no rush. Just hugging and light kissing and cuddling. Just enjoying being physically close. This is a contrast to the urgency we have felt last couple times because I'the been away. The slow pace is nice.
Soon though a kiss lingers a bit long. Tongues engage and it's quickly on. As I've said before her mouth and pussy are directly connected so as we kiss she's starting to moan and I am grinding my hip into her pussy. I know from experience she is already soaking wet.
I swing her around to align with the bed and get on top the deep kissing and sucking and biting continuing. Up on my knees she undoes my belt and I pull her shirt up. And the party is on. I quickly strip and she gets her hot pants and panties off.
Normally I enjoy her excellent blowjob or maybe eat her out but I am remembering how awesome it was to fuck her last week so I dive straight in in missionary. She's always sopping wet so it's an easy slide in.
OMG her pussy feels great. Always does. It's not only the bareback, which I've done with maybe five girls this past year. She's just sooooo wet and slippery it just feels unbelievable. Way wetter than any girl I’ve ever been with. By a wide margin. Only girl ever that I might choose fucking over BJ. And her BJ is spectacular.
So we just fuck and fuck and fuck some more. All me in dominant mish. All while making out like demons. Sometimes a little slow. Sometimes fast. Sometimes just jammed to the hilt and savor. She is having multiple Os complete with the ugliest faces on the planet. LOL.
After maybe 20 straight minutes who knows I tire and move to switch her to the top. During the transition I am on my knees and she takes me in her mouth and starts the most amazing blowjob. Sloppy. Tons of shaft licking and Balls. Just to die for. So good that I can feel the build. Obviously I don't want it to be over but I figure we can go two rounds so I let it build.
Then the strangest sequence but it works out great. Just as I am about to cum she stops and takes it out of her mouth. I don't want to cum now but it's too late. I have dick in hand when a small shot emerges. I am thinking damn I have to stop so I can fuck more or I can Jack off but that's kinda lame. I guess she senses my dilemma because shortly after that first shot she dives under the hood and starts some epic ball and lower shaft work while I kinda work the top of shaft slowly. OMG it was the most staggering orgasm. Maybe because I had tried to hold back. But a couple more shots erupt and then some dry heaves after that that felt amazing even tho no more jizz. Wow. Started as a ruined orgasm and ended as one of the best ever. LOL.
After cleanup she's on top of me naked junk adjacent and we are kissing and I think she's just going to slide in for round two. But after a while we stop and just cuddle and enjoy hanging out. For quite some time I am on my back and she is between my legs stroking up and down them in a relaxing way. I don't know if she's looking for signs of life (super droopy now) but I am def thinking about round two even think am saggy. I know the Cialis will help when needed.
So after maybe a half hour I initiate. I lean forward and push her sideways onto her back and start a round of amazing sexual kissing. We are so good here. Nothing is off limits. I suck her tongue. She sucks my tongue. We tongue wrestle. We lip bite. It's just animalistic passion. And of course she's worked up for round two now grinding and moaning.
We start her on top since I did all the work last round. I start by putting her tits in my mouth one after the other. Those amazing world beating nipples and small enough tits to almost suck the whole thing in and lick the nipples at the same time. She goes into another world when I do this and I feel shivers wrack her body twice.
I am of course growing hard now and she takes advantage to slip it in and she rides and rides. She is absolutely breathtaking to watch ride with her slim waist and flat tummy and OMG I can still see a pic in my mind. She goes thru more Os and at some point after a very big one collapses on my chest and says "thank you!
But she's not a girl to let her man be left hanging. She swaps us to Steve position (she knows me well!) and we do modified Steve with her legs together up in the air to one side. Her pussy is even tighter this way and feels great. I've got one knee on the bed and pounding seriously. Nonetheless it's hard to cum again. I am super fine to just quit but she is determined and swaps to her tummy, head at edge of bed, to give me a standing BJ.
Def one of the best BJs ever. She knows how to really get hands going on balls and squeezing lightly and sliding and licking and OMFG it's to die for. I am leaning over and fingering her pussy in rhythm. Still can't cum. I tell her it's OK baby I don't want to wear you out. But she says no problem and keeps at it. Doe eyes and all.
At some point I say here let me Lie on my back. She sits back and rests while I reposition and I again think damn it's fine to quit. I've so enjoyed round two and don't need to finish (I wasn't like this a few years ago). But nope she takes a deep breath and dives in again. I think it's a fools errand but she is licking and sucking like her life depends on it. And WTF? I feel the build. I imagine her cowgirling as she sucks like there is no tomorrow and have a shattering orgasm. OMG. What a doll. I didn't think it was possible. She is a goddess and I tell her so.
More snuggling and plans for next week and maybe some sneaky mini vacation. Adore this girl. Can't wait till next week!
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07-31-22 00:44 #3719
Posts: 3350Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
The funny part is when a Colombiana stole one of my Viagra. When we fucked, she had an orgasm where she screamed so loud I think she broke glass. I am not sure if it was a placebo effect or not, but they do make pink viagra type pills in India. I cannot imagine the FDA approving a pill for enhanced orgasm but if they did, maybe women would not have to take so many pills for depression and anxiety.
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07-30-22 21:00 #3718
Posts: 2751OT Irony
You see those commercials on TV for Hims? Viagra etc. Keep that dick hard and ready at all times!
Now there is Hers also. Is it about prolonging the female orgasm? Or how to stay wet as you grow older? Nope. Pills for anxiety and depression is the main pitch.
So for men it's all about a good hard dick. And for women it's for managing depression because your husband is coming after you with a good hard dick and all you want to do is garden and sip wine. LOL.
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07-30-22 15:29 #3717
Posts: 2821Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
I think before Covid they might have been getting these prices, now I have my doubts.
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07-30-22 15:07 #3716
Posts: 2751Light at Tunnel Terminus
Originally Posted by Gfefan [View Original Post]
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07-30-22 03:35 #3715
Posts: 243Depends
Have had quite a few arrangements in NRW.
One refused to take any money. The other two were roughly 200/250 EUR. No time limit. Day / two days. Didn't matter.
GFE, bareback, felt like girlfriend. 7/8 on looks.
Be nice, keep hunting. You will find these gems.
Best luck.
Originally Posted by Ggekko2009 [View Original Post]
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07-29-22 19:25 #3714
Posts: 731Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Speaking of an average monger, I meant I'm not filthy rich, and I'm not Brad Pitt in his prime nor Prince Charming. I enjoy dining out with girls, and a good conversation over a glass of wine, if this makes me an above average monger, so be it.
Totally agree about not opening with money, however, if you are in a foreign country for a short period of time, it probably won't get you anywhere, because you need to get laid ASAP, and you want a guaranteed thing. And most girls will bring it up before you even say something about ppm / allowance. Now, if you live in a foreign country, have plenty of time and not desperate to get laid, not discussing money is the way to go.
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07-29-22 17:21 #3713
Posts: 339I've heard only good things. On my bucket list.
Cheers!
Originally Posted by Ggekko2009 [View Original Post]
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07-29-22 16:32 #3712
Posts: 164It's a thing, but.
Originally Posted by Chola [View Original Post]
Out of about 30 experiences, I've had 2 race related issues in EU. First was a small skinny (not slim, skinny. Slim = good; skinny = bad) japanese girl in London that was willing to move forward, but tried to offer just a massage and HJ. Kicked her out.
The other was an escort in Prague. When she arrived, she didn't want to go forward. She said she doesn't see dark men, as they pack a bit too much meat. I replied, "what? You're racist? You got to be f#ck*ng kidding me! Lady, do you know what year it is? She explained that it was just her personal preference and that she didn't like the pain. Wasn't too upset or surprised (If you live in the world, you should know it). I continued on with my night, then unexpectedly, she wrote me like 10 minutes after that, apologized, reiterated that it just hurts too much, then she put me in touch with her friend that's apparently open to all (never made it happen). Right after that (maybe the next night), I met a Ukrainian girl that couldn't keep her hands off me. Of all the women that I have come across in EU, those were the only race related issues that I've run into (both escorts).
And I only target the thin, euro girls (all natural), so all those girls that Steve9696 passes on (pasty white), I'd be happy to take them. (tan them first though! LOL LOL. 😆 😂 haha.
There are uneducated, close minded people everywhere. Find the ones that aren't, and exist in that circle.
Editing the post: Just noticed your post about Germany vs other EU countries (maybe Spain). Check them all out...YMMV. I stayed away from Spain for long time and Berlin/London/Prague were my gotos...My mileage is waaay better in Spain, but I emphasize that it depends on so many factors.. Your game, your look; are you unexpected? are you cool AF? Are you interesting? I haven't been to Germany in a while, but when I was going often, the number was 250-350. I've never paid more than 200 in SPain, except I gave lili 250 one time just because I was in a good mood and she was cool AF, but 200 was the agreed upon amount. Experience everything, everywhere.
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07-29-22 09:16 #3711
Posts: 533Originally Posted by Chola [View Original Post]
I would definitely like to try it out in other countries. Understandably, SA may not work well everywhere. I speak some German, that is why I gravitated towards Germany. From the reports, it does sound like Spain might be a more favorable place for SA.