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  1. #51610
    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMinded1  [View Original Post]
    On topic of dark but not-so-old and no-baby, any tips on where? For some reason all bars seem to prefer light skinned ladies, and I, for one, prefer the darker Isan, which seems to be a wee bit hard to find.
    Book a trip to Khon Kaen. The (modern) edge of Isaan land.

  2. #51609

    This might answer question about massage and extra

    So, I went to rakuten twice and took services of healing hands once. So my quick review here.

    Rakuten is as described by OPs earlier. It's a legit massage with some / minimal fun. No teasing though really. I didn't take the cheap Thai massage, so they didn't give me the weird underwear to wear (my friend went to that one and he was weirded out, also because it wasn't room, there was just a partition). I took the 2 HR long oil massage (800 b) in a private room with shower. I was naked the whole session. At some point, she asked me whether I wanted to HJ. I said not now, towards the end. So that happened. It was okay. I paid 1000 be for extra (maybe too much, but I felt like giving).

    The downside, both the times, the masseuse were not good looking. I did see some young nice ones downstairs, but you don't get to choose so I got what I got. But it was dark in the room, so it was ok. I was able to be a bit touchyfeeling, but they did not remove their clothes, so it wasn't much.

    The massage both the times were really good.

    The healing hands was a bit tricky. They do home service, so I had to ask if they have a place. They invited me to a hotel room where it was set up as a temp massage room. The massage was not that great, but she did do a bit of teasing. She got lazy with massage at some point though. Asked me if I wanted more and started negotiating. She looked pretty, if a bit old. I wouldn't go back again. Paid 2200 be in total, including massage and extras.

    *I am still on a lookout for legit good massage with some extra fun (ideally a bit more teasing; price no issue). I haven't tried Savannah. I really hoped some girls at healthland would do it. Alas. *.

    Sidenote: isn't there a forum for farangs where we can review / learn about kapoo clubs. I went to two. Want to know about more.

  3. #51608
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    And you misread again what MaxBKK said.

    She can love you, and will, fully, but you have to take on and work out how to help her with her continual financial family commitments as part of the deal.

    If you can do that, and willingly, she will love you unconditionally.

    If you can't do that, and see her loving your money more, then just walk on by, as she will be forever torn.
    I stand by my proposition. But I'm glad your relationship is successful.

  4. #51607
    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMinded1  [View Original Post]
    On topic of dark but not-so-old and no-baby, any tips on where? For some reason all bars seem to prefer light skinned ladies, and I, for one, prefer the darker Isan, which seems to be a wee bit hard to find.
    Leave your comfort zone and go to Isaan. Hit a few markets and local places. "You have Thai lady?" will ring in your ears.

  5. #51606
    Quote Originally Posted by Bongo2577  [View Original Post]
    Hi, will be travelling to BKK soon and was wondering if anyone can share a nice massage parlor, that offer really good massage with extra services?

    Many time when you go to the cheap massage places, the massage is really average and even sometime very poor, but the extra is good. I'm looking for a place where you still get skilled therapists for both the massage and the extras.

    Thanks for your help.
    Historically, I would have agreed with the posters who say that good massages are not combined with good extras. That has been the history of my decades of experiences. But in April, I got an excellent massage with very good BBBJ and CFS at a place on Sukhumvit 7/1. Sorry that I cannot remember the name of the spa or the name of the girl. The spa was about half way down the Soi on the left. It's one where they take you up an elevator and they have a few large rooms with attached shower and toilet rooms. The rooms actually have hotel like furniture. Maybe somebody can figure the name based on that description.

    My girl claimed early 30's, was skinny, strong muscle tone, short height with long, lightened, curly hair. Sleazy look. Strong English skills and excellent massage and sexual technique to match the best. She had a way of using one kind of lube inside her and a different kind inside the condom. She carefully selected the condom to match my size. This was CFS that rivaled BBFSCIP. The massage was so good that I considered going back for just the massage.

    Unicorn.

  6. #51605

    Can you guys help me get started in Bangkok?

    Hi,

    First post ever. Very experienced with USA and some experience in Europe Mongering and Puntering. Ha ha.

    I like a different kind of thing that most of you. I'll describe it. Then, can you guys tell me my best bet for trying to do this in Bangkok? In the States it's soooo easy to do this but I don't know where to get started in Bangkok since it's all about "short time" and numbers of pops here.

    What I like: just getting teased for extended periods of time. I'm good with hands only even. Edging. That type of thing. In the States, it's easy. I find girls that appreciate the easy nature of my kink and pay less per hour because it's so damn easy for them. I usually go like 4-6 hours. I find sugar babies mostly for this. They understand it more than high dollar escorts. I also go for crazy attractive / hot / thin / young ones. Breast implants a plus actually for me.

    Basically what I do in the United States is a contact them online and then set up everything through text first so there are no surprises. The cost is figured out, everything is figured out in great detail. And it's really easy when we meet.

    So how can I find the right type of girls for this in Thailand? I'm here for a month, but if I just do this trial and error trying go go bars, street girls, agencies, massage parlors, Thai friendly, freelancers, etc. Etc. I am liable to waste three weeks before I can figure out how to get this to work.

    What do you think my best bet is? For finding girls like this in Bangkok? And Pattaya?

    Thanks!

  7. #51604
    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMinded1  [View Original Post]
    On topic of dark but not-so-old and no-baby, any tips on where? For some reason all bars seem to prefer light skinned ladies, and I, for one, prefer the darker Isan, which seems to be a wee bit hard to find.
    Head out of Bangkok, they do not go there.

    Bangkok HiSo Thais and Asians chase and prize light skin, so that is what is predominantly there.

    You will find Pattaya has them, but older and often baby damage already.

    Hua Hin has what you seek, as does Phuket away from Patong.

  8. #51603
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Boys, I've been at this for almost 40 years and the is the best post I have seen in a long time. Should be mandatory reading.

    Let me put it this way: She doesn't love you, she loves your wallet. Old guys know that.
    And you misread again what MaxBKK said.

    She can love you, and will, fully, but you have to take on and work out how to help her with her continual financial family commitments as part of the deal.

    If you can do that, and willingly, she will love you unconditionally.

    If you can't do that, and see her loving your money more, then just walk on by, as she will be forever torn.

  9. #51602
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendelo  [View Original Post]
    I discussed gold with my Isan FL yesterday. She wears a gold ring and gold pendant and she confirmed what you said.
    Thanks for that.

    I have lived and worked here for a while now, so I have picked up on the Isaan girl mentality and demands.

    I don't even try to fully understand the cultural nuances and why, I just accept they are there.

    As well as living here, I work here, and thankfully that means I stay away mostly from the harder edged places, Bangkok, Pattaya and even Patong.

    I live south in Phuket, Rawai, and we see here a different mix of the types of working girls.

    I like to say that we see a softer type, so you learn more, before you get killed.

    And, I'm not single, being 4 years into a relationship with an Isaan ex bargirl, tho such for a very short period, who is some 30 plus years younger than me.

    It has worked, and is still working, and has morphed also into a professional business career relationship for both of us.

    And you know what, I am not unique around here, there are many many many similar successful pairings.

  10. #51601
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendelo  [View Original Post]
    I discussed gold with my Isan FL yesterday. She wears a gold ring and gold pendant and she confirmed what you said.
    The lady I am with today is constantly pawning her gold rings, and then recovering them. The number of gold rings she wears is an indication of her current financial status.

  11. #51600
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    As a foreigner it is hard to grasp the difference between a Western. Individualist society versus a Thai. Collective / Hierarchical Society.

    In the west we base our decisions around our own selves or immediate family. Wife and kids.

    In Thailand, particularly the north east region of Isan, decisions are made much more as a collective. Often a group of families living together or sharing resources. The individual's authority is laregly based upon what resources can be provided to the wider family structure.

    So you will see working girls sending a good proportion of their earnings back the family. She is very much expected to contribute. This in turn bumps up her and her families status within the group. In the west we rarely or never do this, it just isn't part of our culture..
    Boys, I've been at this for almost 40 years and the is the best post I have seen in a long time. Should be mandatory reading.

    Let me put it this way: She doesn't love you, she loves your wallet. Old guys know that.

  12. #51599
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    When they have met the demands of #1, they use their excess money to buy gold, hoping then that as they don't have any "money" they can keep it.

    Have something for themselves. Some visible sign of being a success, a reward per se.

    But they know, and do so often willingly, that they may have to sell it at any time to meet the next financial demands.
    I discussed gold with my Isan FL yesterday. She wears a gold ring and gold pendant and she confirmed what you said.

  13. #51598
    Quote Originally Posted by Jsxyz  [View Original Post]
    Like many of you, I'm planning a long-awaited return to SE Asia for late September / early October and I've been eagerly following all the recent reports here and it sounds like my timing might be pretty good. Things hopefully open enough that there are plenty of options, but not yet fully jam-packed with tourists everywhere as they were pre-pandemic.

    I'm by no means a BKK expert, only been a small handful of times and usually just a day or two here and there, as often as not with family so I haven't had much opportunity to really explore. I do know that GoGo bars are absolutely not my thing, so I'm wondering about alternatives in the post-COVID world. I recall Spasso was an option for "higher end" (intentional quotes!) ladies several years ago, and I did have some great luck there one evening back in the day. I've also successfully fished the pond at Thermae, and have had good luck even with Smooci escorts (both independent and agency).

    Are there other options now, or any new venues to check out? Also probably a dumb question, but is it safe to assume the ladies at the non-GoGo bars around Nana and Soi Cowboy are all working and available? I can't say I've had any experience with them, but it would seem like that could be a good hunting ground for a gentleman with my preference for *anything* but GoGo bars.

    Thanks and I will of course report back!
    Try Soi 7 Beer garden, freelancers, Massage parlors Soi 33 and Soi 22 and soi 24 and others, Thai Friendly, and of course Tinder.

  14. #51597

    Confusing translation

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacito  [View Original Post]
    Great post. Winning choice, but I go crazy with translation, how do you manage it?
    I'd echo this. Some of the auto-google translations are weird.

    'Fresh focus on spray'?

    'Licking sister' and 'I can't lick it'? Does the first mean DITY ok but not BJ. ?

    "Break the body" ? Or 'break up' ?

    I do like the translation 'cuddle medicine' though LOL.

    And when added to Line, some auto load the rates, and location, which often seems to be cheap hotels and residences just east of the Don Muang toll way road.

  15. #51596

    Non-GoGo Options?

    Like many of you, I'm planning a long-awaited return to SE Asia for late September / early October and I've been eagerly following all the recent reports here and it sounds like my timing might be pretty good. Things hopefully open enough that there are plenty of options, but not yet fully jam-packed with tourists everywhere as they were pre-pandemic.

    I'm by no means a BKK expert, only been a small handful of times and usually just a day or two here and there, as often as not with family so I haven't had much opportunity to really explore. I do know that GoGo bars are absolutely not my thing, so I'm wondering about alternatives in the post-COVID world. I recall Spasso was an option for "higher end" (intentional quotes!) ladies several years ago, and I did have some great luck there one evening back in the day. I've also successfully fished the pond at Thermae, and have had good luck even with Smooci escorts (both independent and agency).

    Are there other options now, or any new venues to check out? Also probably a dumb question, but is it safe to assume the ladies at the non-GoGo bars around Nana and Soi Cowboy are all working and available? I can't say I've had any experience with them, but it would seem like that could be a good hunting ground for a gentleman with my preference for *anything* but GoGo bars.

    Thanks and I will of course report back!

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