German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[The Cane]

I see a lot of guys posting on all the FKK club pages about the rates going up to 100/30. Can you guys that are bitching about this get a reality check? The standard rate across most clubs was 50/30 for many years so it had to go up some time, what did you expect, 50 plus inflation so maybe 65/30? How many of you guys bitching have not had an annual pay rise or increase outside of that? Exactly. Yes, Siri, I know some clubs are 60/30 still or whatever, I am just generalizing on the rate.

Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.

[Sirioja]

Sure prices held steady for 20 years and during that time quality has gone downhill, I'd be happy to pay 75 today if the quality remained but it has not! I'm not going to repeat what has already been posted by others as to the reasons why.

Yes, Russians disappeared, not allowed to work in Germany since 2018. Now 90% Romanians and few Germans or Hungarians, I don't run for Bulgarians, but can still find high quality for around 50/30 if you are able to find out of clubs which are made falling by tourists. For sure, not in RTC with bad teeth. For me, on this year, for freshness, Germany is higher level than Switzerland even I found a wow virgin look Swiss and a real full natural Romanian beauty. Germany is better for me on this year than on 2013, paying 80/60 or 200/120.

[Abox79]

Don't see many people complaining about a 60 to 65 per 30 rate. 100 per 30 however is double the previous rate. That's a ridiculous price hike and seems like a worthy gripe.

I agree. It is a hefty rise, but as has been commented since it was 50/30 for 20 or so years. In most western European countries you'd find it practically impossible to find brothels with as many girls of similar quality for 100/30. It has been commented that the quality is not what it once was, that's a subjective matter and very much a personal opinion. But there's no disputing that 100/30 is still good value if the service is acceptable.

[Downandup]

I see a lot of guys posting on all the FKK club pages about the rates going up to 100/30. Can you guys that are bitching about this get a reality check? The standard rate across most clubs was 50/30 for many years so it had to go up some time, what did you expect, 50 plus inflation so maybe 65/30? How many of you guys bitching have not had an annual pay rise or increase outside of that? Exactly. Yes, Siri, I know some clubs are 60/30 still or whatever, I am just generalizing on the rate.

Sure prices held steady for 20 years and during that time quality has gone downhill, I'd be happy to pay €75 today if the quality remained but it has not! I'm not going to repeat what has already been posted by others as to the reasons why.

[The Cane]

Legalizing our hobby made Germany a tourism destination and brought untold sexual pleasure to men at a competitive price with safe venues without shame. Who said the State has no role in a market economy? Contrast that with USA and its puritanical morality, police stings trashing liberty, etc. So much for "can do" and exceptionalism. And about the highest incarceration rate per capita. Dysfunctional comes to mind, but the petro dollar cures many sins you see.

Here we go with the America bashing again. No, we're not perfect, and neither is Germany. Even if it does have FKKs! Let us not forget Germany's full history shall we? And how it arrived at its current relative liberalism (see there folks "liberal" isn't always a bad word). Recall that place called Nazi Germany, one of the greatest threats to mankind and freedom the world has ever known, and that America helped to defeat. Recall one of the greatest atrocities perpetrated by any nation known as the Holocaust that Germany is guilty of, and that America helped to end. It took that evil regime being literally reduced to rubble, then rebuilt under the auspices of the American-led Marshall Plan in order for that nation to move in a different, more enlightened direction while building one of the world's top economies (number 3 for a long time). And eventually bringing us the FKK clubs yes! So, let us remember that after America helped to beat Germany down, she then helped to build the Fatherland up again into something better (that was exceptional in and of itself). We're talking a place that eventually brought us those wonderful FKKs we love so much.

American perfection hell no! No nation has ever achieved that, and no nation ever will.

[Mr Ho]

Legalizing our hobby made Germany a tourism destination and brought untold sexual pleasure to men at a competitive price with safe venues without shame. Who said the State has no role in a market economy? Contrast that with USA and its puritanical morality, police stings trashing liberty, etc. So much for "can do" and exceptionalism. And about the highest incarceration rate per capita. Dysfunctional comes to mind, but the petro dollar cures many sins you see.

It sound like Brazil and also German speaking part of Europe is best for brothel in the whole world! Why German speaking part tend to have liberal stance on brothel is yet mystery to me, but somehow they are liberal than they usually are when it comes to prostitution as German for example is bunch of very serious people, but highly liberal on certain area like sex than other nations!

[Sirioja]

Puerto Ricans are American citizens. They live in a territory of the USA and can go back and forth and live in any part of the USA but they can only vote in federal elections if they live in the 50 states or District of Columbia.

Also why did they forbid you to drive since one can drive with a French drivers license in the USA and in fact many people drive without a license in sanctuary cities which Miami has now become.

Puerto Rican women were prettier than mostly fatties, white and black, seen in Miami, Keys and Bahamas. As I was told Puerto Ricans were in downtown, but 2 police cars stopped me on first red light entering downtown, telling: Go away, you are in danger here, when many guys were looking. It was in 1996. I also remember a car full of weapons in back. No problem in Vegas downtown on 2008, nor in San Francisco, nor Phoenix. No problem in Salt Lake of course. No problem in Moscow nor Saint Petersburg I visited also at night.

[Mr Ho]

Legalizing our hobby made Germany a tourism destination and brought untold sexual pleasure to men at a competitive price with safe venues without shame. Who said the State has no role in a market economy? Contrast that with USA and its puritanical morality, police stings trashing liberty, etc. So much for "can do" and exceptionalism. And about the highest incarceration rate per capita. Dysfunctional comes to mind, but the petro dollar cures many sins you see.

Somehow, we mongers are minority though, most guys just jerk off front of screen and occasionally they go for somehow more expensive, but very ugly old prostitute on the street or their shitty dirty local brothels! Most guys have blocked mind and they do not even do any deep research about it to embetter their sex life!

[Mr Ho]

Whilst dope may be OK for artsy-fartsy stuff and sloppy attribution metrics, in my experience it makes people daft, so let's not rationalize it as some passport to another dimension of IQ or creativity. The greats of the last few centenaries, Beethoven, the Vinci, Dalton, Einstein etc (random sampling) did not start the day with THC. Being exceptional means exceptional devotion, drive and not fucking around with brain retarding drugs. The bullsiht and mystique of the 1960's is just that. The Paul Barans, Andy Grove, Lockheed Martin's Johnson Kelly and Feynmann did not futz about. Neither did Soros. I believe with daily BJs by beautiful young women they could have scaled new heights. Stay of the garbage, reject bad nutrition, bad doctors and the lies of the media. Everything about a good nights sleep, exercise, nutrition and working hard and diligently to pursue dreams is true. The bit I'd change is lots of breath taking beautiful young women that represent the vitality of life force and joy of having sex with them.

Back in my teen years like bit more than two decades ago now LOL I used to smoke good dope in Zurich as it was legal for few years back then, so I used to get real top of the range staff at the coffee shop like pharmacy there where they sell weed in showcases all legally LOL! I roll it, then smoke it looking at beautiful swiss nature, then off to escort or brothels (No globe back then), oh holly molly LOL! Those sexual experiences high out of mind with full sensation was to this day among the best sexual stimulation experiences I had in my life LOL!

I do that without weed now, but once it is legalize again, I will do the same! I used to buy weed from African herbal business men in the Parks in Berlin or took train to Venlo to buy weed and have amazing sex in FKK, but now I do it without weed and it is fine by me!

Sex on drug is something monger should experience as it does raise sensation to maximum level! It is science backed! Just some are legal and some are not, also depending on which nation you do it as well! Funny how it works!

Legalizing LSD and MDMA for medical use was hot topic during Davos economic forum, so legalizing many harmless drugs can be seen in let say 20 years time! I mean look at Thailand where it was famous for harsh punishment for weed is now moving to legalization of weed! So never say never!

Meanwhile, my biggest drug and drive is fucking beautiful girls around the world! Nothing ever will beat that! Never!

[Pahllus Maximus]

Legalizing our hobby made Germany a tourism destination and brought untold sexual pleasure to men at a competitive price with safe venues without shame. Who said the State has no role in a market economy? Contrast that with USA and its puritanical morality, police stings trashing liberty, etc. So much for "can do" and exceptionalism. And about the highest incarceration rate per capita. Dysfunctional comes to mind, but the petro dollar cures many sins you see.

[Pahllus Maximus]

Is rubbish. The Brits were highly advanced technologically and founding many stable countries centuries later including the USA. Indian math was about 1,000 years ahead of the west. America imported its rocket team from Germany just as it did with multiple Nobel prize winners and Einsten and a fair few movie stars. I'd call it more cunning and greed than some rugged "can-do" mythology. Sending ships in the 1600's to uncharted waters was the equivalent to a rocket to stars in terms of risk and practical issues like scurvy and clean water. Good luck on space colonization. One hard problem: radiation meets DNA. Ooops.

[Pahllus Maximus]

Whilst dope may be OK for artsy-fartsy stuff and sloppy attribution metrics, in my experience it makes people daft, so let's not rationalize it as some passport to another dimension of IQ or creativity. The greats of the last few centuries Beethoven, Da Vinci, Dalton, Einstein and Feynmann (random sampling) did not start the day with THC. Being exceptional means exceptional devotion, drive and not fucking around with brain retarding drugs. The bullsiht and mystique of the 1960's is just that. The Paul Barans, Andy Grove, Lockheed Martin's Johnson Kelly and Warren Buffet did not futz about. Neither did Soros. I believe with daily BJs by beautiful young women they could have scaled new heights. Stay of the garbage, reject bad nutrition, bad doctors and the lies of the media. Everything about a good nights sleep, exercise, nutrition and working hard and diligently to pursue dreams is true. The bit I'd change is lots of breath taking beautiful young women that represent the vitality of life force and joy of having sex with them for inspiration and motivation.

[Escape Artist]

You original post says extreme engineering along side American go-big-or-go-home capitalism. Extreme engineering with marijuana appears to be a slow process rather than go-big-or-go-home which implies something else. It's fine though I'm just sharing some thoughts. I certainly don't have an ego investment in this topic.

Slow process? 8 week plant life cycles? No man. You're reaching big time to win an argument.

[BobNSuzy]

That is literally the crux of my first post. But perhaps the term "American go-big-or-go-home capitalism" somehow did not translate to "thriving industry. " Not sure how, but apparently that was not communicated to your end.

Your original post says extreme engineering along side American go-big-or-go-home capitalism. Extreme engineering with marijuana appears to be a slow process rather than go-big-or-go-home which implies something else. It's fine though I'm just sharing some thoughts. I certainly don't have an ego investment in this topic.

[BobNSuzy]

Well there is theory and what you hear and then there is real world experience. Can any strain grown in one place find its way to any other areas of the world in a global economy? Yes, most definitely. Can a hot Russian hooker find her way to Cambodia? Probably. Is there a hot Russian hooker scene in Cambodia? No so much.

It is a little more than theory. There are seed banks that ship internationally with seemingly impunity. There are individuals shipping seeds also. I also want to add that there is an element of marijuanna being able to be grown anywhere. The plants are far removed from their original birth places. The genes that create the autoflower varieties come from Russia.