FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Mike1274]

I was out in Germany last week and it was slow at the clubs. The best lineup was at Dietzenbach and they had about a dozen girls. Prices are now $40 plus $10. Only changes I saw was towels are now red and they have soup to eat. I'm horrible with names, but Giulia and Elena were as good as I could expect. I thought the other girl was Deanna and she did CIM. Mira was always busy so didn't get to sample that, but if you like them small she will fit that look. I wished I could have spent more than 1 day in that club.

I then spent most of my time is the North Rhine Westphalia. I got all messed up trying to figure out getting to Villa Venus as the Tram is no longer running, so had to figure out the bus. I counted 6 girls present. It was worth going to see Alexandra. Of all the girls I saw on my trip I rank her as the most attractive and I enjoyed my time with her.

I made it to Arabella and they had 4 girls and I was told 2 more would show up for the weekend. Only Arabella has changed the price. It is now $30 plus $10. I do wonder if other clubs will follow with the new pricing. Alina was present and the other ones I'm not sure of the names. I was still ok with the small lineup as I was their for the happy hour entrance.

I made it to Grimberg twice. First day their were 9 girls and the second time it was down to 6 girls. I did Bonny both days and she's more my type but wished she would be more fun. I had no choice but to try Angie as it's been a few years with her. She has a good hard body and as always she keeps her eyes closed so she doesn't have to look at my ugly ass. I missed out trying Gabriela as she was gone the second day.

I ventured off to Luderland. They had about 6 girls. Andrea and Lori are more my type. Of all the girls I saw Lori was the most GFE type.

I haven't been to La Luna in a very long time, so I took a trip over to Moers. I'm really not even sure what went wrong but I somehow got a coverecd BJ and it was just a disaster. At my age I need a whole different level of lovin to have a chance to have some enjoyment.

Overall I had an ok time on this trip as I know I need to lower my expectations as nothing has returned to the level as it was a few years ago. When possible I waited for the happy hour entrance which was really nice. I need to rethink if my next yearly trip will be back to Germany or somewhere else.

[Wanking]

10 euro entry from 10 am to 12 pm, and after 7 pm. 30 euro from 12 pm to 7 pm.

I hear prices have increased by 10 euro in Arabella but not in Grimberg.

I was disappointed during my last trip, happy hour was only from 7 pm, so I had to pay 30 in.

I did save alot on public transport with the 9 euro monthly travel card but that ends now in September I believe.

[EastGoing]

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Today revealed by german press agency Reuter the truth about the false summer holidays of FKK girls: photos stolen from a pimps chat prove they are just participating to the German FKK Athletics Championships Of Running Away From Customers.

Girls must first qualify in their own clubs competition, then they will become representative, like flag-bearers, and will be put in groups with those other ones who went through in respective clubs, the same scheme of the UEFA Champions League, but, like in Formula One Racing, the winners are one girl and one club.

Obvious sponsors of the competition, the famous brands Goodyear and Pirelli, so widespread and used in lattex clubs.

The winning girl will receive a miniature (should she ever decide to penetrate herself) of a golden dildo, to remember what a dick looks like, and an instruction booklet to find out how a dick works.

The winning club will receive a truck full of plastic dolls, that will attract customers and multiply the earnings because they will not argue, hide, complain, cheat on timing nor ask for extras.

Bookmakers don't quote, for the internal competition, Arabella's Julia (even if not AO), Alexia and Patrizia because are younger and fit, while they quote Beatris because she's only young and the other ones because, being older and heavier, are more likely to be intercepted and grabbed by a customer, sooner or later.

Problems in Romantika, because at the start it is difficult to distinguish which ones are the (fat) women and which ones are the starting blocks: on first day one T-shirt with a number was placed by mistake on a block and a scandal was risked because it was running faster than the real women, if it had qualified it could have been considered a dodgy rigged competition.

Problems also in Grimberg for the enrollments, because girls hide so well that nobody even knows who is actually there in any given day.

I hope that now that it has been unveiled some tv will broadcast.

[Sirioja]

I hear from a reliable source that the all room prices in RTCs have increased by 10 euro as of today.

20 minutes - 40.

30 minutes - 50.

40 minutes - 60.

60 minutes - 90.

More expensive than some normal clubs for 40/30. Maybe will attract some supermodels with beautiful white teeth. Let s run to enjoy them.

[Wanking]

I hear from a reliable source that the all room prices in RTCs have increased by 10 euro as of today.

20 minutes - €40.

30 minutes - €50.

40 minutes - €60.

60 minutes - €90.

[Sirioja]

I fully agree about the superb super service they give. The providers I visit at home are, nearly exclusively, chinese, since some 4,5 years, when they started spreading. For max 50 euros, I get DFK, fingering, CIM, AO, CIP, CIA, rimming, etc with participation, passion, without pains and arguments (unless I take too long and/or mamasan is in the kitchen with next customer waiting). In fact, since long time I haven't felt anymore the need nor the push to go to Germany, since I receive service even superior to that of the rtcs in old good times (imagine compared to the more recent years) by women I can't even talk to because of language barrier.

Many Bulgarians and many bad teeth in RTC and not only since this year. Never saw any top beauty for 30/20, when I saw and got for 40/30 in normal clubs and with very beautiful teeth. RTC only worth to fuck AO, when lower other services level than with good girls in normal clubs, some for only 40/30, not more expensive than in RTC. When I want and work to get love sex meaning really kissing, DATY to make cum the girl because I know and experienced so often how they want to give back and all is matter of behavior for me, more than just technique for porn, but I don't expect for more when I don't want a GF fucked by others. Just love sex and good image, not more. And this still works good for me on 2022 in Germany or Switzerland or even NL where found 2 NL, Romanian being a quality for profiles I look for, when some like to be treated as a woman, easy to feel they are not used and even in private, when they are often surprised from how ou touch them.

[EastGoing]

My reserve is Chinese Massage salons where I am finding the service is superb. From the moment I enter until I leave I am treated with the utmost respect and care. The drawback of course is that the ladies are older and not exactly top level looks. Costs for an hour in these for all services (except anal) is between 120 and 180 an hour

I fully agree about the superb super service they give. The providers I visit at home are, nearly exclusively, chinese, since some 4,5 years, when they started spreading. For max 50 euros, I get DFK, fingering, CIM, AO, CIP, CIA, rimming, etc with participation, passion, without pains and arguments (unless I take too long and/or mamasan is in the kitchen with next customer waiting). In fact, since long time I haven't felt anymore the need nor the push to go to Germany, since I receive service even superior to that of the rtcs in old good times (imagine compared to the more recent years) by women I can't even talk to because of language barrier.

Even if almond-eyed people look younger than they are, often age and looks are not what one would like to pay for, but are they that better in rtcs?

Years ago, the day before going to Germany, or generally abroad, I used to make max one session, sometimes even zero, because I was going to have an "improvement". This summer instead, between one trip and the other, finally in different countries, I was making 2-3 session a day at home knowing that, once abroad, I would have been lucky to receive a bbj, probably not even finishing or not CIM, for a higher expense. Who knew if and when I could have got AO, at which conditions, costs, etc.

In July I was in Barcelona. After the first 3 days of desperation, I hunted only chinese flats and in one I met an about 33 years old alien phenomenon, who "luckily" doesn't live close to me. I was taking her 3-3,5 hours per session (most customers were booking her for one hour or more, nobody for the possible 20/30/45 minutes of the price list) at the appalling cost of 70/ h, in the end the manager kindly charged me 60. I don't have adjectives to define her service, quality, quantity, endurance, passion, class, etc. What a difference, considering that in rtcs, but nearly also in rlds, I couldn't stay more than the theoretical 20 minutes allowed.

I reckon that the real virus making damages is not covid, but the one who infected romanian prostitutes, which must be about 90% of providers in western Europe (apart probably from Portugal and Spain, colonized by central-south americans). Nearly all of them became uninterested tired cold fishes, both the old glories and the new ones. Even in Bucharest, I casually came across a girl I had sessioned with 10 years ago (!), her service vanished.

To further highlight the romanian crash: in my trip of may, my only rtc "conquest" was a young chubby bulgarian with teeth a bit crooked! In 10 years it had never happened: at hand I'd say zero bulgarian "conquests", always and only romanians! Even in rlds, I had great satisfactions with a bulgarian and a latvian, while the sessions with romanians, like with some other bulgarians, were not that good or just bad.

Summing up, I hope I will soon be able to go to eastern Asia, highly likely Thailand. I think that Europe is a no go, at least until this "virus of uninterested tired cold fishes" afflicting romanians all over will be gone.

P.S. Sirioja, there is no need to make competitions nor rankings about satisfaction, happiness, pleasure, etc. They are individual personal things. Money can help to get them, to some extent, but can't buy everything, nor totally. With the money you say you fork out, you should have some doubts about the "sincerity" of those women who seem to please you so much. With the peanuts I pay (when I pay), I can't have as many doubts ;-)

[Dupont88]

My next trip I will be following in your footsteps as I will have no car. I fear I will end up visiting some of the evocative industrial archaeology of NRW (Landschaftspark Nord, Zollverein Schwebebahn and so on).

In that case don't forget to pay a visit at old concentration camp, or for who prefer KZ.

Just in case someone don t know from where German are coming.

[Sirioja]

Thanks Dupont88, I am sure many customers who went to rtcs years ago, but even only in 2019, the last year with a few valid girls, will understand my feelings. How can we forget girls opening the entrance door with warm smiles, jumping on us, launching themselves on our laps, hugging us, passionately deep kissing us, sucking us and fucking us on the couches (usually I was shy and didn't want), generally not minding extra free minutes, not sparing efforts to please us, and how can we compare them to the current dummies who don't even look at us staring at them on the couch in front or besides? Using the bag as an absolutely not removable barrier between us? Not letting us touch them until we are in the room, where anyway no kissing, fingering, licking, nearly any other sexual act will be allowed, god forsake encouraged?

On my last day in Venus I identified a new "girl" who had been described as funny, participative and cheerful on freiercafe, I honestly don't remember the name. She was quite chubby for me, I didn't feel like lowering down to try her. After a couple of disastrous rooms with a couple of ugly uncapable "women" you wouldn't fuck on a desert island after the three of you survived a shipwreck, I decided to force myself to take the challenge to fish the whale, hoping in her supposed good attitude to resuscitate my mood and exanimate dick.

We really don't have same eyes when I never saw any Erika or Ramona or Irina 6 NL in any RTC and I'm fully sure I got higher level more intimate with some much prettier girls with teeth in normal clubs. But yes, a bit more expensive, even girls don t ask extra when full intimacy, we don t speak about, just happening.

[Optimist]

Wanking. Thanks for the update. Yes, your experience is echoed elsewhere. By the way, Cindy always seems to have a bad cough whenever I have seen her in the last few years. A reason I avoid her (as well as her seeming bewilderment about what she should do in the room).

[Optimist]

Eastgoing my friend thank you for your Requiem for Germany, worthy of the greatest of your country's composers.

I think most red carpet club goers would agree with most of your sentiments, although many of us never scaled the heights of GFE you achieved, so for us the fall from grace is slightly less painful.

Again I think you are right that the optics in many non-rtc clubs has fallen to the point where I sit on the couch thinking that many of the girls are interchangeable with the red carpet club girls. But the real horror in all clubs is the ice cold stare into vacant space by "workers" whose main aim seems to be to avoid any contact with possible paying customers. On all my visits to Luderland in the last two years I have left without going to a room (unless Angela was there), and visits to Arabella and Grimberg have been depressing (so much so that I fell victim to Angie due to her disconnected positivity). Of course there are a few decent girls but they are usually very very busy.

And now the price inflation and service deflation which sees some girls in mainstream clubs asking extra for kissing, licking, is beginning to spread to the red carpet clubs. No way am I going to pay for service to be doled out to me in thin slices. This attitude has destroyed the service concept of FKK. We might as well go to a Laufhaus. Unless we go to an FKK (non-rtc) for food and relax (which according to the girls is what most men now do. Surprise surprise).

But I still go in search of the ineffable experience in clubs and places of all sorts. The problem is that there is so much Precious Princess attitude to wade through. I currently have a beautiful marvellous girl in a mainstream club who keeps me going back for her so I still have a great time. But going to Germany for one girl is too much putting eggs in one basket. My reserve is Chinese Massage salons where I am finding the service is superb. From the moment I enter until I leave I am treated with the utmost respect and care. The drawback of course is that the ladies are older and not exactly top level looks. Costs for an hour in these for all services (except anal) is between 120 and 180 an hour.

My next trip I will be following in your footsteps as I will have no car. I fear I will end up visiting some of the evocative industrial archaeology of NRW (Landschaftspark Nord, Zollverein Schwebebahn and so on).

Cheers.

[EastGoing]

Man some God's must have inspired you to write this masterpiece!

Thanks Dupont88, I am sure many customers who went to rtcs years ago, but even only in 2019, the last year with a few valid girls, will understand my feelings. How can we forget girls opening the entrance door with warm smiles, jumping on us, launching themselves on our laps, hugging us, passionately deep kissing us, sucking us and fucking us on the couches (usually I was shy and didn't want), generally not minding extra free minutes, not sparing efforts to please us, and how can we compare them to the current dummies who don't even look at us staring at them on the couch in front or besides? Using the bag as an absolutely not removable barrier between us? Not letting us touch them until we are in the room, where anyway no kissing, fingering, licking, nearly any other sexual act will be allowed, god forsake encouraged?

On my last day in Venus I identified a new "girl" who had been described as funny, participative and cheerful on freiercafe, I honestly don't remember the name. She was quite chubby for me, I didn't feel like lowering down to try her. After a couple of disastrous rooms with a couple of ugly uncapable "women" you wouldn't fuck on a desert island after the three of you survived a shipwreck, I decided to force myself to take the challenge to fish the whale, hoping in her supposed good attitude to resuscitate my mood and exanimate dick.

She was sitting on the further sofa facing the girls private room by the counter, in the area beyond the wall of the first couches by the entrance. I went to sit on the attached couch, we were perpendicular. There was a little table separating us, where she had the ashtray and a drink. Nobody else around, no tv, no noises, no distractions, only the two of us. Inspite of she smoking and sipping the drink, therefore turning her head in my direction, our eyes never met, we didn't exchange a word, a single grunt. I wasn't acknowledged of exhisting, frustrating my shy attempts to draw attention from somebody 30-40 cms away from me, a (chubby and ugly) prostitute in a (low end) brothel, who should have wanted to earn money.

I was an invisible, mute, intangible ghost, like had been during my (that day short) stay Baby and Andrea, just to mention a couple of the quite a few Venus girls who were in the nearby couches happily smiling at me (or perhaps even laughing at me?) in my nostalgic hallucinations.

I felt (and often feel) like Rambo towards the end of the movie, when asking his colonel where are his fellow-soldiers, he lists a few names. To paraphrase: where are, what happened to Katy, Karina, Ana, Laura, Alina and all those other girls?

After some 10-15 minutes of this s h i t, given the lack of alternatives and my wrecked psychological conditions, I decided to visit the mentioned park and I booked a visit to the Bochum miners' museum for the day after, the last of my stay, following the kind suggestion promptly received from another ex rtc customer, a german!

That's my greatest regret, because it seems it is something unique. Over the years I spent in Germany a few hundreds of days, with several empty ones in last trips. I never bothered to find out if there was something else interesting apart from clubs, rlds and even (shallow) privates. I couldn't visit the museum due to the shameful delays for railworks and road works, affecting trains, trams and buses. I think the 9 euros were set to avoid riots and insurrections of travellers, since a trip Duisburg-Verena (some 60 kms) could take more than 6 hours back and forth, from Duisburg to Bochum (some 35-40 kms?) more than 2 hours (that day more!).

Back to rtcs, tonight a german friend told me that he read on a couple of ao forums that now in Arabella AO costs 10 euros extra. LOL!

P. S: I am writing from Bucharest. I wouldn't be sorry if some ghosts (a Lisa, a Carmen, the Patrizia who used to frighten me with her assaults, just to mention 3 local ex F39 stars) materialized in an underground, park, or, better, in a private!!!

P.S. 2 Wanking, I am curious to read your impressions of the trip.

Sirioja, I always said that the very most rtcs providers were not beautiful, when not unfuckable. Now, and since quite a long while, I complain about the attitude, the service, which was of another planet, something a real-life-real-girlfriend wouldn't get even close to, and now is aligned to the mechanic cold fishes (hunters of extras which provide badly when they keep the word) of more expensive lattex clubs. I visited even Sixth Sense in Holland, Great Palace in Castrop, I didn't see any significant beauty, nor anything worth zimmering, many of them could have enriched the line up of Romantika, Grimberg at max: all low or average looking, uninterested, over make-upped princesses struggling not to fall from their ridiculous 25 cms (or anyway longer than my dick) heels. I just wasted a couple of days and the money of the entrance

[Sirioja]

The pic at the bottom is an ad l came across one day that l had walked out from Venus much earlier than expected, to take a walk in the nearby landschaftpark, mentioned in tourist brochures as a must-see! It was the end of June, the day before my outgoing flight, I thought that, since Venus had been the first rtc I had visited, it had to be also the last one.
l had gone back to Germany, as written in my previous post, to take advantage of the 9 euros per month travel card, and to meet again some girls of rlds, not even for the happy hours prices which had been established in all rtcs. In fact, 1 day out of 2 of my stay, l didn't go to clubs but just to rlds. And l never stayed until closing time, never made a room longer than 20 minutes, actually less than 15 counting the trip, the wastes of time and the discussions over the time elapsed/remaining and the other ongoing difficulties. In most "sessions" I didn't unload, in many I didn't get/keep erection. In such a short time I wouldn't finish anyway anyhow, but it was pointless to ask one of these delicate princesses to stay 30 mins or more, because they cannot resist 10 minutes, getting immediately tired, bored, hurt, disappointed, argumentative, etc.

I took this pic because l thought it ironically symbolized the end of my german trips.

It shows a banana, erect. But "krumm" means "soft". My answer to the posed question ("why is your banana soft?") is "because l go to rtcs", but could also be "because l go to Germany for sex".

I don't get any input, any fantasy, any emotion, any arousemente, any spark, l don't fancy any of those reluctant escaping hiding agonizing corpses or would be corpses, full of limits, all nos and pains everywhere, lacking any interest, will, effort, enthusiasm, initiative, participation, committment, passion, etc.
Regardless of the outer look, which, as we all know, is generally quite repulsive on its own, among missing teeth, falling boobs (when present), pot bellies, stretchmarks, cellulitis, kgs in excess which would be the joy of piranhas, etc.
The very few fuckable ones have a viagra-proof attitude, gestures, facial expression, tone of voice, approach, behaviour.
Instead of chemical castration, even to the worst sexual maniac or rapist, it would be enough to show the photo of their faces, in any moment: alone on the couch, with the customer sitting, during the trip to / from the (non) execution room, inside, during the "session". The alone glance by the very most of (theoretical) providers in rtcs would freeze a horny bull.

It was horrible to stay in those clubs helpless, having "hallucinations", "seeing" around the "ghosts" of the gone girls of the past and then, after stroking the eyes, realize that they were just memories, in some moments I considered and sometimes still consider them pure fantasies, fruits of my imagination, because it seems impossible that they exhisted and did what they did how they did. Too striking the contrast, the difference with the present useless "princesses".
Good luck to those who take the challenge and congratulations to those who find happiness there. Said with envy, because l surrendered. I think I will never find the courage to try again to go there or it will take ages

You don t find top model beauties in cheap low level AO RTC for only 30 ? I m really surprised, when I found on this year a outstanding and so lovely German, a great GFE Hungarian woman, a 18 yo Swiss virgin look and a top full natural Romanian beauty, all found on my own, without asking anybody, so I will keep on enjoying like I started this year. Just have to be able to go where quality. I advice You Gold which is quite cheap, I can t do anything for AO, I just know can sometimes happen and for far higher level than in RTC with uglies.

[Wanking]

Eastgoing. Well said. I did 5 hours in Villa Venus yesterday. Similar views 😂.

Yeah its grim.

Ill write more later.

[Dupont88]

Man some God's must have inspired you to write this masterpiece. !

I born in the 60' and have experienced a debacle in the last covid years.

Come the reign of the qr Jew star.

The chicks more greed and also disturbing old, a lot in last part of 40.

Maybe now is the time of internets fucks and plastic chicks.

Long gone my Thai day.

I thought that Austrian FKK will be a replace, but not all.

I was wrong.