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  1. #7808
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyCarioca11  [View Original Post]
    I live in London but dislike all the 'pay in advance without meeting the girl' kind of places. For me it is very important to see if I click with a girl and that is only possible in FKKs or Thermas. You cannot ask for a refund after you pay at Diva or any other such establishment in London when you realize that you do not click with the girl after she took the money.

    One episode was that the girl wanted to give me a massage to make small talk before the session and I refused the massage and said we can just talk. Apparently the massage was part of her routine and she went mad because I did not want a massage to start. It was a really bad session and she apologized later when she realized I was a nice guy who just did not want a massage. I promised myself never to pay in advance for sex again and not regretting that decision.
    TC makes a fair point.

    Many guys reduce this risk by taking only well reviewed girls. Someone has to try them first and I like that role.

    I have also declined massages and other activities many times and don't recall it being an issue with the girls, most roll with whatever makes you happy and you want to do.

    However I agree that if you want to 100% eliminate the chance of paying and not getting a good girl or a good session, Diva is not the right venue. For me I expect that their will be an occasional bad session that is waste of my money. I frequently like to do multiple sessions a day when I am in town and that also reduce the risk if one girl isn't good the second one usually is. Each person has to decide how many bad session which are the cost of doing business they will tolerate to get the good sessions, for me the ratio is low enough to continue.

    MM.

  2. #7807

    Diva vs FKK

    I live in London but dislike all the 'pay in advance without meeting the girl' kind of places. For me it is very important to see if I click with a girl and that is only possible in FKKs or Thermas. You cannot ask for a refund after you pay at Diva or any other such establishment in London when you realize that you do not click with the girl after she took the money.

    One episode was that the girl wanted to give me a massage to make small talk before the session and I refused the massage and said we can just talk. Apparently the massage was part of her routine and she went mad because I did not want a massage to start. It was a really bad session and she apologized later when she realized I was a nice guy who just did not want a massage. I promised myself never to pay in advance for sex again and not regretting that decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    GD,

    You are asking a loaded question. It is different for different guys. It depends on the experience you are seeking. I would say they are both worth doing and enjoying.

    I have had epic nights in FKK, where I had 2 or 3 amazing girls and left completely drained.

    I have also had many FKK Nights where I could only find one girl when I wanted 2 or 3 girls. Most of the girls were not attractive enough. Or the attractive ones were being hogged all night by a guy who comes in way more often then me. I have even had occasional nights where I left with zero sessions.

    As for Diva there are many more girls because you have the whole city of London at your disposal, roughly 500 girls. In an FKK you may have 100 or 50 or even less.

    I have certainly had Diva experiences that were bad, because I didn't click with the girl or she was in a bad mood. These happen much less often with Diva, and I typically will choose new and unreviewed or lightly reviewed Diva girls. I did one time have 4 bad Diva sessions in a row, but on average I usually have a great session.

    Diva pictures are more accurate than FKK pictures. Some Diva girls even post selfies which seem highly accurate to me.

    Diva if you take the age on a girls profile and then add to it the number of years from her first review until today you usually get an accurate age. FKK ages seem like fiction.

    I tend to prefer younger girls and this can be selected ahead of time with Diva. But I have been to FKK where it feels like minimum age of girls is 30.

    With Diva girls you can makes special requests ahead of time, like if you want her dressed as a school girl or maid. Or if you just want her to were the color blue. I like to ask girls not to wear make up as I find girls natural faces beautiful and make up doesn't taste good when you lick it. It is nearly impossible for an FKK girl not to wear make up.

    I also like going to the place the girl lives, has her cloths, has her music and any books she is reading. The bed smells like her, and it gives a strong girl friend illusion. In FKK the best smell like cleaning products and you know 10 other girls used this bed in the last few hours before you use.

    I am not bashing FKK, I will go any chance I get and hope for another epic night. But if I had to choose between the two I would choose Diva most of the time.

    MM.

  3. #7806
    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    Do you guys feel like well reviewed diva girls like fortune, noleta, mermaid etc are better than FKKs? I've done both and can't decide, curious what others think.
    FKK for me is more like a feast for eyes and the pleasant idea that you can bascailly fuck any girls you see by simply saying Hi and how are you. It's very unique experience that you can rarely have elsewhere, the most simple and direct shock to mind. The real fun part is to discover the gems hidding iamong the sharks. Maybe thailand is bit similar but still.

    Of course, with agencieis like Diva, you can have on average better service and less disappointments (sharky girls), with a higher rate as well. When you paying 200,300 or even more, the service you receive is more or less quaranteed.

    If I live in Germany, I'll probally visit FKKs more, but I'm in london, Diva works fine for me.

  4. #7805

    Looking for GFE outcall recco

    Hi gents,

    In London after years and the old agency I used to use has gone kaput it seems (Agency Caprice). Does anyone have a tested agency they use for outcall girls? Any help will be much appreciated.

    Cheers.

  5. #7804

    Def See Her

    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    That's fair and I agree. I do like seeing and talking to the girl beforehand at the FKKs but you're right about the service. I had one good GFE at Mainhattan but that was one out of maybe a dozen. I asked because I missed Fortune earlier this year and could take a day trip to London LOL.
    Yeah don't get me wrong. Fortune is a must see. Her DFK is light. That's the main downside. Her BJ is not mind blowing but def solid and prob improved immensely since I saw her a few year ago. But attitude and optics? Whoa! She will slay u with that smile. And her ass could launch a thousand ships. Maybe what’s most surprising tho is her attitude. She lights up the room and is quite the little minx in bed. Def a great girl.

  6. #7803
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    To me it's just a totally different experience. I like FKK for the spectacle and feelings like the king who can have any fair maiden with the flick of a finger. With Diva I love the intimacy of wine from their fridge and fucking in their bed. I mean that is awesome too.

    So given the above your going to get a more GFE and less business like feel from Diva hands down. But if you are talking SERVICE then it's more girl specific. No FKK girl can kiss like Mermaid. Fortunes service is sorta meh (great attitude tho) but I've never seen an ass like that on a human before or since. And Noleta is just so well rounded. And it's the rare FKK girl that can BJ like Rivetta. So they each have their allure.

    Id say on balance I prefer the service with the Diva girls. But that wont keep me outta the FKK when in Germany!
    That's fair and I agree. I do like seeing and talking to the girl beforehand at the FKKs but you're right about the service. I had one good GFE at Mainhattan but that was one out of maybe a dozen. I asked because I missed Fortune earlier this year and could take a day trip to London LOL.

  7. #7802
    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    Do you guys feel like well reviewed diva girls like fortune, noleta, mermaid etc are better than FKKs? I've done both and can't decide, curious what others think.
    GD,

    You are asking a loaded question. It is different for different guys. It depends on the experience you are seeking. I would say they are both worth doing and enjoying.

    I have had epic nights in FKK, where I had 2 or 3 amazing girls and left completely drained.

    I have also had many FKK Nights where I could only find one girl when I wanted 2 or 3 girls. Most of the girls were not attractive enough. Or the attractive ones were being hogged all night by a guy who comes in way more often then me. I have even had occasional nights where I left with zero sessions.

    As for Diva there are many more girls because you have the whole city of London at your disposal, roughly 500 girls. In an FKK you may have 100 or 50 or even less.

    I have certainly had Diva experiences that were bad, because I didn't click with the girl or she was in a bad mood. These happen much less often with Diva, and I typically will choose new and unreviewed or lightly reviewed Diva girls. I did one time have 4 bad Diva sessions in a row, but on average I usually have a great session.

    Diva pictures are more accurate than FKK pictures. Some Diva girls even post selfies which seem highly accurate to me.

    Diva if you take the age on a girls profile and then add to it the number of years from her first review until today you usually get an accurate age. FKK ages seem like fiction.

    I tend to prefer younger girls and this can be selected ahead of time with Diva. But I have been to FKK where it feels like minimum age of girls is 30.

    With Diva girls you can makes special requests ahead of time, like if you want her dressed as a school girl or maid. Or if you just want her to were the color blue. I like to ask girls not to wear make up as I find girls natural faces beautiful and make up doesn't taste good when you lick it. It is nearly impossible for an FKK girl not to wear make up.

    I also like going to the place the girl lives, has her cloths, has her music and any books she is reading. The bed smells like her, and it gives a strong girl friend illusion. In FKK the best smell like cleaning products and you know 10 other girls used this bed in the last few hours before you use.

    I am not bashing FKK, I will go any chance I get and hope for another epic night. But if I had to choose between the two I would choose Diva most of the time.

    MM.

  8. #7801

    Different not Better

    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    Do you guys feel like well reviewed diva girls like fortune, noleta, mermaid etc are better than FKKs? I've done both and can't decide, curious what others think.
    To me it's just a totally different experience. I like FKK for the spectacle and feelings like the king who can have any fair maiden with the flick of a finger. With Diva I love the intimacy of wine from their fridge and fucking in their bed. I mean that is awesome too.

    So given the above your going to get a more GFE and less business like feel from Diva hands down. But if you are talking SERVICE then it's more girl specific. No FKK girl can kiss like Mermaid. Fortunes service is sorta meh (great attitude tho) but I've never seen an ass like that on a human before or since. And Noleta is just so well rounded. And it's the rare FKK girl that can BJ like Rivetta. So they each have their allure.

    I’d say on balance I prefer the service with the Diva girls. But that won’t keep me outta the FKK when in Germany!

  9. #7800

    Diva vs FKK

    Do you guys feel like well reviewed diva girls like fortune, noleta, mermaid etc are better than FKKs? I've done both and can't decide, curious what others think.

  10. #7799

    GFE Standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Rcl44  [View Original Post]
    In your thinking does GFE always include DFK.
    The standard definition of GFE most widely accepted is it includes DFK and BBBJ.

    I would say it should include fingering and DATY also, because no girlfriend is going to refuse those. But To your question DFK is a necessary part of GFE.

  11. #7798
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastiane  [View Original Post]
    I have been with a few Diva girls recently in the last couple of months: Lia, Lunna, Nour.

    Lia, Romanian. Has a pretty face and a great lithe and tall body. No kissing but nice personality and good body. Spent an hour on an overall average session. 250 incall when I saw her.

    Lunna, Russian. Stunning beauty with a top-model like body (180 cm) and a beautiful face. One of the best diva girls I've ever had. Reminded me of both Megan and Sunny of Globe / Aphrodisia. Fantastic GFE with silky smooth BBBJ. 300. Definite repeat.

    Nour. Beautiful ethnic French girl. Very friendly and very open minded. Had a great GFE. Worth repeating. YMMV. 300 + extras.

    The absolute highlight is Lunna. I have noticed a big price increase with many of the 150 girls now 250 or more and most of the top girls now 300 or more. Rushana who someone mentioned moved from 150 to 200 then 250 and her anal went from 100 extra to 150 now. I've been with her 3 times at least and she has a beautiful face and is great PSE / GFE -- not sure if she is working now.
    In your thinking does GFE always include DFK.

  12. #7797
    Quote Originally Posted by CasualPrash  [View Original Post]
    There used to be a lot of great independents in Harrow / Wembley / Pinner area that used to provide a superb service. Check out the reviews and make a decision. Watford has a couple of great MILF's too if that's your scene.
    How do you find the ads with reviews. Also does it let you search by ethnicity.

  13. #7796

    Exotic vs Daily Driver

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenJones  [View Original Post]
    If you want to sample and stick to a budget then AW is a good tool. You just need to refine the search:

    Profile.

    Order results by Rating (escorts).

    Set "have logged in" to "Within last week".

    Exclude members that hide feedback.

    Then check a couple of the key likes / dislikes.

    Set your price range in the rates and availability tab.

    Then read some of the reviews, if they look legit then you should be able to find those WV's you want to take on a ride through the countryside.
    Again, thanks for all the helpful responses. I am REALLY looking forward to my trip. After re-reading my post, I want to make sure that I didn't come across as disparaging the daily drivers. It is more a question of the skill of the driver. Back to the analogy, should I rent a Lambo but only have the driving skills to tool around town safely in my Camry, am I wasting money on the Lambo?

  14. #7795
    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyFitz  [View Original Post]
    Thanks to all the folks who have been kind enough to answer some newbie questions. In going back through the thread I get that Diva seems to be reputable and trusted and that Adultwork probably isn't a good starting point for a tourist. As I have been digging I have run across some sites such as Charlotte Action, 100 Escorts, and Cheapest London Escorts, etc. Does anyone have any actual experience with these? The odd thing is that I can't seem to find any reviews at all, either good or bad. I do understand that you get what you pay for but if you aren't necessarily looking for the more exotic menu options and are looking for a sampler of the local culture, would this be a viable avenue to pursue? For a car analogy, a Lambo may be fun for a track day, but I am going to be perfectly happy with a VW or Toyota to take and tour the countryside. Would the same apply to escorts?
    If you want to sample and stick to a budget then AW is a good tool. You just need to refine the search:

    Profile.

    Order results by Rating (escorts).

    Set "have logged in" to "Within last week".

    Exclude members that hide feedback.

    Then check a couple of the key likes / dislikes.

    Set your price range in the rates and availability tab.

    Then read some of the reviews, if they look legit then you should be able to find those WV's you want to take on a ride through the countryside.

  15. #7794

    Harrow

    Quote Originally Posted by Rcl44  [View Original Post]
    I'm new to this forum and headed to London in a few weeks. What's the Harrow girls on AW, thanks.
    There used to be a lot of great independents in Harrow / Wembley / Pinner area that used to provide a superb service. Check out the reviews and make a decision. Watford has a couple of great MILF's too if that's your scene.

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