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09-11-22 22:25 #10121
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09-11-22 17:36 #10120
Posts: 2579Just flush / impeach the turd already, Jan 2023 is coming
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09-11-22 15:48 #10119
Posts: 1604Proof?
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
I'll wait.
Oh, and please tell me why Re-run states have for years taken more in Federal money than they've paid to the Feds. After all, of all of those Re- run states were so productive, they should be giving more to the Feds than they get back.
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09-11-22 15:44 #10118
Posts: 1604Can't be done
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
In the US, the Senate must pass legislation in order for it to be approved. The general procedure is that the House of Representatives passes a "bill" and then the Senate makes changes (or not), the bill is "negotiated" between the two houses and then the bill is either passed or not by the Senate.
The key issue here, and one that almost nobody understands, is that for the Senate to "pass" anything (with a few exceptions like a budget or judgeships or a few very other very narrow exceptions) requires 60 (now, but prior to 1975, 66) votes. That's called the filibuster.
Therefore, for the Democrats to pass any type of minimum wage increase, they would need (assuming no Re help) a filibuster-proof majority. Something they last had in 1975.
I realize that this is a difficult concept top understand but that's the way the process works. If a sufficient number of Re want to block something in the Senate, Democrats still need to get (at present) 12 Re/ Independent Senators (there are 48 Democrats in the Senate, 2 Independents and 50 Re) to vote for it (assuming, of course, that all Democrats are "for" the bill).
When one political party says, in essence, "we don't give a shit what it is, we're voting against it even if our constituents want it", it is virtually impossible to get anything done.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...what-they-can/ https://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...in-the-senate/.
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09-11-22 05:04 #10117
Posts: 5510Nope. You're not even right about that
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
U.S. minimum wage: real and nominal value 1938-2022
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...nimum-wage-us/
When adjusted for inflation, the 2022 federal minimum wage in the United States is around 40 percent lower than the minimum wage in 1970. Although the real dollar minimum wage in 1970 was only 1.60 U.S. dollars, when expressed in nominal 2022 dollars this increases to 12.04 U.S. dollars. A large difference from the federal minimum wage in 2022 of 7.25 U.S. dollars.
May 24, 2022
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-...gap-with-south
As California, D.C. top $15, Hawaii bill sets $18 floor.
20 states hold steady at federal rate of $7.25.
A grocery store cashier whos guaranteed $15 per hour in California can legally be paid $7.25 in Texas and 19 other statesa gap in state minimum wages thats set to widen further in the year ahead.
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California, the District of Columbia, and much of New York already require wages of $15 per hour or more. Massachusetts, and likely Washington state, will join them in 2023. And California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) announced earlier this month that his states minimum wage is expected to rise to $15.50 next January, as an inflation-based adjustment.
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09-11-22 01:19 #10116
Posts: 1822Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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09-11-22 01:14 #10115
Posts: 1822Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
You said smthg was not possible based on me using the word "reverse". I showed you how it ws. My example was effectivlety what has happened, regardless of my lack of intention to make it so. Your rebuttal was against federal wage changes. My original question and explanation wwas about real wage changes / different beast.
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09-10-22 23:26 #10114
Posts: 2579To all you swamp mongers / creatures
Be careful out there, many of those putas are fake.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fl...09/id/1086822/
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09-10-22 20:12 #10113
Posts: 428I agree
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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09-10-22 20:08 #10112
Posts: 428You are right
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
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09-10-22 18:55 #10111
Posts: 1136When grifting is your game, then TAXES are lame
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Only the QAnon\Repub\Bothsidesists Trump-Humping, "slave-hordes", would believe that Trump actually made money at any of his businesses, to the tune of a billion dollars. Perhaps they took their schooling at Trump University (another failure, BTW).
If Donnie J. Dummkopf (aka.Agent Orange), is in fact now a billionaire, he only become one in the last 4-5 years.
Meaning he become a billionaire, primarily through two (2) grifts. First, from WH under the table bribes from places like Saudi Arabia, Russia, Turkey ...etc, most likely for those top secret/classified documents (illegally obtained), that he left behind in his hotel room while visiting.
Secondly, on the "backs of slave-hordes" of the QAnon/Repub/Bothsiderists feckless cult-faithless. With all the MAGA "Save America", "Stop the Steal" or "...If you UNCHECK this (monthly contribution) box, we will tell Trump, you're a DEFECTOR and have sided with the Dems" email campaigns, he was able to bilk hundreds of millions from his gullible donors.
So thanks to the grifting while in office the gullible orange cult-faithless, yeah...I think he's a billionaire, now.
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09-10-22 18:46 #10110
Posts: 5510Reality Check
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
https://fortune.com/2021/01/11/us-ec...-since-hoover/
Fact check: Chart of job growth by president shows historic unemployment under Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rt/6177339002/
Trumps Final Numbers
Statistical indicators of President Trump's four years in office.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/
A sampling of the highlights:
-The economy lost 2.9 million jobs.
-The unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%.
-The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.
-The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million.
-The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.
-Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016.
-Coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 16.7%. Carbon emissions from energy consumption dropped 11.5%.
-Handgun production rose 12.5% last year compared with 2016, setting a new record.
-The murder rate last year rose to the highest level since 1997.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/328637/...ecord-low.aspx
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09-10-22 18:13 #10109
Posts: 5510No, you just now changed the subject
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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09-10-22 15:09 #10108
Posts: 1604Horse Hockey
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
Why do you continue to fabricate stuff when a 15-secods internet search will turn up hundreds if articles that show that you are full of it?
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09-10-22 15:01 #10107
Posts: 1604Bs
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
The "real world" federal minimum wage ought to be about $21 USD per hour if the minimum wage were tied to productivity which it used to be prior to 1968) although probably quite unintentionally). https://cepr.net/this-is-what-minimu...-productivity/.
In truth, the federal minimum wage has been raised 23 times since it was introduced. Can you hazard a guess as to how many of those 23 times Republicans had control of Congress? 2 (two) times. The means twice. It also means that 21 out of 23 times the minimum wage was raised when Democrats had control of Congress. That means that over 90% of the time. Democrats raised the minimum wage and less than 10% of the time Republicans raised the minimum wage. https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ery-time-cong/.
I have already said that the minimum wage ought to be higher. And yes, Democrats ought to shoulder some of the blame for that. However, the current crop of Republicans (the "just say no" crowd) has refused to do any actual governing since 2008. They have continually voted against raising the minimum wage to anything near what it ought to be. Please feel free to provide any examples whatsoever to the contrary. That means actual examples where Republican Senators and Congresspeople have said something like "I believe that the Federal minimum wage ought to be well over $15 per hour".